Honestly, how do you find Ronin's debut album?
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MichaelAngelo
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ya...at the credits page got nah nah pok...and ya, if u scratch the $ sign, there will be a message "try again"...lol...
anyway, guys, i think the guitars are great, old rock n roll is not meant to have a crunch to the sound. It supposed to sound half overdriven. For great examples, hear AC/DC or Led Zeppelin songs. Guns n Roses was a different story, that tone is what only SLASH can achieve...hehe...Don't worry, if u are a crazy rock n roll fan, Ronin's album hit the perfect sound! In my opinion, even black maria and do what thou wilt sounded great on recording!
anyway, guys, i think the guitars are great, old rock n roll is not meant to have a crunch to the sound. It supposed to sound half overdriven. For great examples, hear AC/DC or Led Zeppelin songs. Guns n Roses was a different story, that tone is what only SLASH can achieve...hehe...Don't worry, if u are a crazy rock n roll fan, Ronin's album hit the perfect sound! In my opinion, even black maria and do what thou wilt sounded great on recording!
DeathCubeK
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kissyourmother said:
hahaha you obviously know nothing of anti government statements. I would like to see them do a Singapore flag burning on stage ala RATM... :lol:
TylerDrake
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ohh haha... my mistake man.. no insult.. just made me laugh, you hiding the album from your mum... funny image haha
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stillwater
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talking about ronin's album only reminds me of one thing...
"... time for a revolution BABY, time for a revolution..." this part of the song keeps ringing in my head... uncomfortably... (pardon me if i got the lyrics wrongly)
its quite amusing that "black maria" is the 1 getting all the airplay, and it took me some time to figure out why this other song keeps ringing in my head, instead.
wat is ronin's agenda, who are they, n wat is their aspiration? have they already had their concept defined, or r they facing an identity crisis?
Their agenda: a true Singapore rock n roll band (my guess). how do we define that then? a rock n roll band made in singapore, or a good ol' american rock n roll band in singapore? sounds more like the latter. actually to be precise, a good ol' american(-wannabe) rock n roll band in singapore.
wat's so special abt ronin? if it is cos they play good american rock n roll, then i rather listen to REAL american rock n roll. (afterall, nothing beats the REAL THING!!!)
stop sounding like americans, the americans are laughing! roots and influences are two different matters altogether. the american slangs and words like "baby" just makes me feel sick. we dun grow up talking like that, we never did.
respect your roots, and all due respect would be given to you. Else the americans would be laughing, and I will be joining them too...
ronin, aren't u suppose to be singapore's answer to rock n roll,
or are you just another american-wannabe that appears in some american ego-trip jokebook? ...sigh.
"... time for a revolution BABY, time for a revolution..." this part of the song keeps ringing in my head... uncomfortably... (pardon me if i got the lyrics wrongly)
its quite amusing that "black maria" is the 1 getting all the airplay, and it took me some time to figure out why this other song keeps ringing in my head, instead.
wat is ronin's agenda, who are they, n wat is their aspiration? have they already had their concept defined, or r they facing an identity crisis?
Their agenda: a true Singapore rock n roll band (my guess). how do we define that then? a rock n roll band made in singapore, or a good ol' american rock n roll band in singapore? sounds more like the latter. actually to be precise, a good ol' american(-wannabe) rock n roll band in singapore.
wat's so special abt ronin? if it is cos they play good american rock n roll, then i rather listen to REAL american rock n roll. (afterall, nothing beats the REAL THING!!!)
stop sounding like americans, the americans are laughing! roots and influences are two different matters altogether. the american slangs and words like "baby" just makes me feel sick. we dun grow up talking like that, we never did.
respect your roots, and all due respect would be given to you. Else the americans would be laughing, and I will be joining them too...
ronin, aren't u suppose to be singapore's answer to rock n roll,
or are you just another american-wannabe that appears in some american ego-trip jokebook? ...sigh.
madmonkeykungfu
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The tracks didnt really stand out for me when I previewed them on the MTV Asia website, in fact I found them medicore. Music aside, their showmanship during their live performances are good. Maybe thats why they manage to attract attention. Most of their fanbase are teens anyway.
On a side note, accents never really bother me in songs (only if they are faked during speeches/conversations). Anyway it was said that Kurt Cobain sings in British accent though he was american. Of course I'm NOT comparing ronin to Nirvana. They still have a long long way in terms of songwriting.
On a side note, accents never really bother me in songs (only if they are faked during speeches/conversations). Anyway it was said that Kurt Cobain sings in British accent though he was american. Of course I'm NOT comparing ronin to Nirvana. They still have a long long way in terms of songwriting.
stillwater said:
interesting...
let's see..music is universal and so is english...
using "baby" in lyrics is absolutely fine. I don't exactly get why you're against this supposed "slang".
Its a word or an expression they used to complete the song and sentence and to capture that feel and mood of the song. Isn't it like composition? When you write an essay, don't u use the best words to capture the essence?
If you really want the lyrics to be true blue singaporean, i guess you could sing it your way and have it go "time for the revolution laaa,time for the revolution laaaaa.." but would that make sense?
I'm not dissing in case anyone thinks so..im just trying to make sense out of this.
bernardgoh
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I think Ronin album are fine, i do agreed with stillwater in same way. things like "wat's so special abt ronin? if it is cos they play good american rock n roll, then i rather listen to REAL american rock n roll. (afterall, nothing beats the REAL THING!!!) " . but i do agreed on noif too on the music is Universal thingy.
Ofcause everybody has different views in life and Music, either we respect it or we hate it. that's all. I have never see anything that can make everyone happy before. so i guess everyone have the rights to speak out what they really think and stuff.
PS* Not trying to be a double headed snake. just telling people what i feel in this forums.
Ofcause everybody has different views in life and Music, either we respect it or we hate it. that's all. I have never see anything that can make everyone happy before. so i guess everyone have the rights to speak out what they really think and stuff.
PS* Not trying to be a double headed snake.
just telling people what i feel in this forums. I would feel that for a local album it is quite well done........and i would also agree that it is their live performances that captivates the audiences and makes some of them ronin rioters.....
the reason why they would sound like an american rock n roll band is due to the fact in my opinion that in singapore there isn't really a band to define singapore's own rock n roll sound......instead we are influenced by other rock n roll bands since the older days like guns n roses skidrow and led zeppelin....by listening to all this bands we naturally take it as part of our defination of rock n roll hence ronin's album.....
it wouldn't really stand out would be due to the fact that the soundwriting on different aspects such as the rythm and lead are not detailed enough....making it sound very plain and in this case with our own listening interests to other bands it may not be as good.....
the reason why they would sound like an american rock n roll band is due to the fact in my opinion that in singapore there isn't really a band to define singapore's own rock n roll sound......instead we are influenced by other rock n roll bands since the older days like guns n roses skidrow and led zeppelin....by listening to all this bands we naturally take it as part of our defination of rock n roll hence ronin's album.....
it wouldn't really stand out would be due to the fact that the soundwriting on different aspects such as the rythm and lead are not detailed enough....making it sound very plain and in this case with our own listening interests to other bands it may not be as good.....
rottenramone
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I do agree with stillwater's comments. To a certain extent.
Bear with me cos I'm going to kill this thread for a bit.
Its laughable to the average american that a singaporean kid will sing american-style rock n roll songs. but then, its happening all around the world. not surprised if you can see japanese, brazilian, finnish, african trying to do that US "Baby!!" thang. But that's the power of the US popular culture for you.
But then, if you don't have bands like Ronin who can start this fire, who will? They may sound like american wannabes (no offence to Ronin), but hey, its still a step. Is there any other who is willing to do it, as pull it off at the same time? As Singaporeans we're still searching for that identity where we can feel at home. How should we express that in our rock songs?
Are there any real Singapore songs (not those national day ones) which can make us say that "Hey, its Singapore?" Actually, there's quite a few, but that's another thread altogether.
I do agree with stillwater's comments. To a certain extent.
Bear with me cos I'm going to kill this thread for a bit.
Its laughable to the average american that a singaporean kid will sing american-style rock n roll songs. but then, its happening all around the world. not surprised if you can see japanese, brazilian, finnish, african trying to do that US "Baby!!" thang. But that's the power of the US popular culture for you.
But then, if you don't have bands like Ronin who can start this fire, who will? They may sound like american wannabes (no offence to Ronin), but hey, its still a step. Is there any other who is willing to do it, as pull it off at the same time? As Singaporeans we're still searching for that identity where we can feel at home. How should we express that in our rock songs?
Are there any real Singapore songs (not those national day ones) which can make us say that "Hey, its Singapore?" Actually, there's quite a few, but that's another thread altogether.
3notesAbar
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Are we playing insturments invented in Singapore? No. Do we have a recognizable music industry churning out bands with overseas support and are being emulated overseas? No. Does everyone have to buy their CD? No. Am I a Ronin fan? No. Are they doing whats right? Of course.
3notesAbar
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Cant agree more dude.
Personally, I don't find anything wrong or wannabe-ish with using the word 'baby' in lyrics. It may be considered as an American slang to some, but to others, its just a form of expression. Being Singaporeans, I'd bet many of us use not only American slangs, but British slangs and all other sorts of slangs. Perhaps its become so much of our everyday life that it doesn't occur to us as a slang anymore, but an expression.
So please explain, does using the word 'baby' mean you're an American-Rock n Roll-band-wannabe? So if I start going, 'Baby, don't cry' to my friends, I'll be labelled as a deadass American-wannabe? Or if I call my boyfriend 'baby', I'm an American-wannabe?
That doesn't exactly make sense.
I agree with Anoif, music is universal.
So please explain, does using the word 'baby' mean you're an American-Rock n Roll-band-wannabe? So if I start going, 'Baby, don't cry' to my friends, I'll be labelled as a deadass American-wannabe? Or if I call my boyfriend 'baby', I'm an American-wannabe?
That doesn't exactly make sense.
I agree with Anoif, music is universal.
candy shop
baby is a slang word?
Candie: I think rottenramone was just using an example to say that we are very much influenced by the american charts, not the word in particular. It doesnt mean that if you call ur bf baby, you are an american wannabe. I dont know about the rest of the thread dudes, but I really do find your reply quite hilarious.
And oh yes.. baby, dont get emotional alright. We lurves you still sugar.
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baby is a slang word?
Candie: I think rottenramone was just using an example to say that we are very much influenced by the american charts, not the word in particular. It doesnt mean that if you call ur bf baby, you are an american wannabe. I dont know about the rest of the thread dudes, but I really do find your reply quite hilarious.
And oh yes.. baby, dont get emotional alright. We lurves you still sugar.
:lol:
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