optisailor2002
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a levels = 18/19 years old, not 16.
Gibson LP Vs PRS standard satin
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a levels = 18/19 years old, not 16.
P.S. What's a Soloway Swan?
WATTT???!?!?
How can you NOT KNOW about them?!
http://www.solowayguitars.com/
Tee hee hee~
P.S. I always think, in a band? There are the musicians... and the drummer.
optisailor2002
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wah issit cool anort. eh wait i mean. issit hot anort.
maybe we guitarists should go there have some fun too xD (or have some of you already)
maybe we guitarists should go there have some fun too xD (or have some of you already)
Whitestrat
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gah, egos everywhere.
did this page like move 10 pages in 1 night?
i dread what will happen when PRS releases a 7-string.
egos will quadruple in size
Are there plans for a Tremonti 7? I seem to recall hearing rumours about that...
optisailor2002
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lolz ur talking as if ego is proportionate to number of strings. xD
but then it doesnt make sense! they already have a 12 string model =x
and dont have to wonder what will happen if they release a 7 string model. answer is easy. EVERYONE DONATE TO OPTI GETS A PRS 7-STRING FUND
but then it doesnt make sense! they already have a 12 string model =x
and dont have to wonder what will happen if they release a 7 string model. answer is easy. EVERYONE DONATE TO OPTI GETS A PRS 7-STRING FUND
optisailor2002
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haha he wear big hat arh. its like ppl play 4 strings only on a 6 strings bass xD
Whitestrat
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Dude... i read your blog.
Remind me never to take you on for Theory discussions... whahahaha...:mrgreen:
Whitestrat
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Not really lei... for example: Broken Wings is played with a drop B. Why use drop B when a 7 will suffice? heheh...
Whitestrat
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Not bad... seems quite exotic. I love those guitars shapped like basses.
But something I realised about all these boutique guitars. They're all built on the same strat template most of the time. (I'm talking bolt-ons here) and have a maximum of a 22 fret board, and a chunky heel. I'm no luthier, but is it really that hard to make an all access neck joint like the Washburn Nunos or the Ibanez or the Musicmans? The most amaing ones would be the parker flys. 24 frets and you feel NOTHING!!!
Or are these boutique guys only in it for the looks?
This one seems to go a bit further with a 27" scale, but the base format doesn't really alter much.
optisailor2002
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i believe these boutique guys sicne they are made-to-order and not mass produced, they can not only make sure that the guitars that they have made look nice, but can actually sound as good as the "template" that they base their design on. besides, they would not wanna just base everything on looks and like dont care about the sound cos it means that their reputation is at stake as well.
Whitestrat
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Sorry, I didn't mean that the guitars were for looks only, and sounded bad. I meant in terms of functionality. No easy access neck joint, no 24 frets etc etc...
I've tried asking someone to build a 24 fret with easy access. Apparently, they can't! that's what stumped me!
Most of these boutique fellas build the guitars on order, yes, but the base format is standard. Meaning you can choose wood, and dimensions, but you can't choose construction. I wonder why...
Everdying
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Sorry, I didn't mean that the guitars were for looks only, and sounded bad. I meant in terms of functionality. No easy access neck joint, no 24 frets etc etc...
I've tried asking someone to build a 24 fret with easy access. Apparently, they can't! that's what stumped me!
Most of these boutique fellas build the guitars on order, yes, but the base format is standard. Meaning you can choose wood, and dimensions, but you can't choose construction. I wonder why...
for all you know, they get parts from warmoth etc then just customise the guitar to how they like it
KennethC
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for all you know, they get parts from warmoth etc then just customise the guitar to how they like it
Sounds like Nash, K-Line and the like to me!
They get their parts from warmoth/USACG/Guitar Mill etc.It's based on the notion that a guitar can be greater than the sum of its parts, if put together by the right person.
Whitestrat
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I do agree with that. But I find that it's still not enough to be completely boutique. I find a totally boutique guitar should be one which isn't based on any form. I should be able to get something I want, and not have to cave into any of the design limitations imposed by the maker. Something like an ESP custom shop. Now THAT's really custom!
I'm inclined to think that there is value in the "old school" methods of construction - the thick neck joint and thicker necks - mainly with tone/sound.
While many think the Parker Fly is one of the most ergonomic guitars around - notice that the guitaring society doesn't seem to think of hte P Fly as a "tone machine". Those that do, most seem to be in the arena of high gain playing... maybe its all about perception, maybe its all about adherence to tradition, or maybe, just maybe.. its really something about the tone.
Same for Steinberg...
Anyhow, playing on 22/24 fret necks and having to deal with a chunky neck joint is a non-issue for most people... i mean, if it is truely an issue like you have tiny digits, then go for a neck thru or set neck. Right? No?
Well, you would be one of the few to consider such a project... there's quite a bit less $ in such a venture - reason why many boutique makers don't go there...
I would also think that.. well.. if I go in and tool out a guitar from some fantasy of mine... I don't think it would turn out as good as I hope... Ergonomics, weight balance, tone, etc etc...
I read up on how John Suhr puts together a good tremolo... quite astounding. The man seems to really THINK about the way it will SOUND. His vintage trem (the 1055 or something) is actually made of different parts... the only thing stock is the baseplate - the saddles are from a different source, the block is of a different metal.
So yeah... man, but if you're bold enough to design your own guitar - let me know... I'd love to hear what's up your sleeve.
Whitestrat
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I get you on the Fly... But I don't think the thick neck joint or the thick neck would really affect the sound that much. I mean, it would but without that extra mass, it's not like you'll end up with a dobro.
You can still get a nice sounding guitar with a thinner neck and a thin neck joint. Look at the Ibanez Andy Timmons model. Or the JS. Basically quite nice tonally. Or even the JP6 from EBMM. No complaints there.
But the steinberger doesn't sound as nice. I used to have one. Quite dry sounding, and thin. Not as nice as even a strat. heh.
I have small hands (I think), but even then, the JP6 is perfect for me, and there's no lack of tone, and the 24th fret is effortless! So, if they can do it, why can't others?
PRS just launched the Mira. That one is interesting because it is a 24 fret, with a Les Paul DC shape. That heel from hell is still there, but I'd be very interested to see how it plays...
KennethC
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Agreed, those aren't exactly boutique I guess. Once you get into the race for profitability though, it gets challenging to remain that way. I guess that's why only a small minority can really be considered boutique.
Shreddy, I recall a youtube interview with Paul of PRS where he mentioned that there are so many miniscule considerations in building a good guitar, right down to the metal of the bridge, bridge plate, saddles, etc. Haven't gotten my head around that, but I'm interested in finding out how a 3-saddle brass set from Glendale/Callaham would change the tone on my tele, which comes with a stainless steel set from Fender. Read somewhere that brass will make it more twangy, but haven't done enough research to settle on anything yet.
