Gibson LP Vs PRS standard satin

to almondx,

whatever lah.

you got nothing better to do, google misc. info about me.

yeah, so what if i am God-fearing? does it matter if i believe in God/Buddha/Allah/Vishnu?

the fact is, no matter how much you think you know, or how right you think you are, you have proven to be a yaya-papaya self-righteous know-it-all arrogant snob.

what are you trying to be? the TGP Matte of SOFT?

nobody likes you here.

just graduated from JC? good.

go serve your national service and grow up lah.

Whoa so fast get cold feet want to zao arh once the truth is coming out? ROFL.

So what if no one likes me in this particular here?

I know my posts and contributions have helped plenty.

I have received many PMs thanking me as well.

I'm flattered by all that.

End of the day, I don't hit below the belt, I don't come up with some cock and bull story, I don't pretend to be holy thou so righteous. I just say my opinions and facts point blank.

For someone so God-fearing, your posts have indicated you to be a true Christian. Are they all like that? :D And you still day dream about me googling misc. info about you. I think you need a psychiastrist.
 
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closure?????????????

what? closure for what! no more free food? nooooOOOOoooo T.T

yes closure for now, lim peh only got 1 pair of eye. Pity me lah, i have to see eye to eye with you both, left eye to left eye right eye to right eye leh. 2 eyeballz agains 4!

Closure for challenge! No more participants. Interested fellas must start their own!

serious as f00k, mr Lim, aka capital L, Lim lau peh aka meepok militia, with not only meepok, but fish ball up your karcherng!

anyway, seriously for now, at this rate we are going, really must come out and face to face to laugh about how funny/stupid we can be!
 
guess thats what some of us are doing now =/

and you can left eye stare at mattleesc left eye and right eye stare at my right eye mah xD only no time to rest for you hor =/
 
Ok... honestly, there's nothing wrong with being ignorant. Hokkien got one saying: "Kiang Dio Ho. Mai Gei Kiang"...

While I do acknowledge that there's definately something we all can learn from everyone, I think there's something I do need to point out.

The one key reason I mentioned that it explains so much when you said you're 18, is that you seem to exhibit this unbending nerve to insist that what you know (regardless of source, cos I am giving you that benefit of the doubt) is the end all and be all of debates. I tried to be polite and ignore your flawed reasoning just so I won't expose how LITTLE you actually know what you're talking about:

Also, you have given a couple of misleading advices on this forum which I failed to point out at that time:

"PICKUP TONES ARE INHERENT, REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU DO TO THE HEIGHTS. IT'S GOT TO DO WITH THE NUMBER OF WINDS AROUND THE COILS, OUTPUT VOLTAGE LEVELS AND DC RESISTANCE. THERE IS NO WAY TO GET A LOW OUTPUT TONE FROM A HOT WOUND PICKUP."

The emf generated by the coils of a humbucker is not constant. The magnetic flux is denser closer to the pickups than further. A current will be induced when the magnetic flux linkage is cut, given by X = nbacos theta where b is the magnetic flux density. The magnetic flux density is the number of flux lines, or lines of magnetic force, per unit area. Since the lines are denser closer to the pickup, at a constant rate of cutting the magnetic flux linkage a higher current is expected to be induced and hence a larger output. Increase the height between the pickups and the strings and a lower current is generated hence a lower output since the same region now contains fewer lines of magnetic force ie. the area which the strings lie on top of now contains has a weaker magnetic flux density.

Therefore, by lowering the height of the pickups, output (current) is lowered.

Here, you make 2 mistakes:

1. You assumed you knew what I'm talking about completely. I apologise if I wasn't defining enough about my explanations in the previous topic. If you don't know, you should have asked. I would be more than happy to explain my claims.

2. I mentioned that a high output pickup will never produce a low output tone. (Ok, perhaps this statement is a bit vague). I didn't mention that a pickup's output cannot be affected by pickup distance from a string. For a very simple example. Lets use 2 single coils. One being a Kinman Traditional (low output), and one being a Kinman HX85 (high output). By your reasoning, simply keeping the HX-85 away at a far distance would produce a sound similar to the Traditional. Lets plot the output voltage of the Traditional at the minimum distance from the string without soundwave clipping. You will have one value. You will now find that no matter what you do with the HX-85, you will NEVER have enough clearance in the guitar body for your pickup deflection from the string to be able to produce an output voltage at the same level OR lower than the highest point for the Traditional. Theoretically it's plausible, but practically it's ludicrous. Because the DC resistances of the 2 pickups are completely different.

You claim my explanation is misguiding. Which is worse? Someone listens to me, and buys a low output set of pickups because he is led to think that's the only way to get such a tone? Or someone who listens to you and thinks he can get a low output tone from a high output pickup?

If you still don't believe me, please e-mail Mr Chris Kinman and ask him if it's possible. www.kinman.com

Picking a formula off some theory is easy. Rationalising it with practical EXPERIENCE is not. And this experience is EXACTLY what I'm talking about when I make a point about your age. You can raise a point for discussion. There's nothing wrong with that, and we all welcome it. But telling everyone what's right when it's only a half-truth based on assumptions is wrong.:???:
 
almondx, once again, whatever lah. nothing better to say, play the religion card somemore.

i am secure with my life, i have many friends here, i have no need to argue with an 18 yr old kid who thinks he knows it all.

say what you want, typing to you here is just a waste of time.

if you really want to talk, you come to my shop. i talk to you.

unit #01-06 Longhouse food centre, upp thomson road. put time put place.
 
this, will be my last reply in this thread. Afterwhich, happened, can happen, might happen, to quote my beng seng brader, gonna be---> "si yin bor kia eh dai chi liao". (For non hokkien reader, that is a quote from my sum seng braders, meaning "its their mother son problem already"

And so, for my last post in this thread. Allow me to refresh everyone, on the humble beginning
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What would you choose between Gibson LP standard and PRS standard satin 22 and why? They are in same price range. I prefer Gibson tone (absolutely huge with tube amps) but PRS has better playability. What are your thoughts?
 
Ok... honestly, there's nothing wrong with being ignorant. Hokkien got one saying: "Kiang Dio Ho. Mai Gei Kiang"...

While I do acknowledge that there's definately something we all can learn from everyone, I think there's something I do need to point out.

The one key reason I mentioned that it explains so much when you said you're 18, is that you seem to exhibit this unbending nerve to insist that what you know (regardless of source, cos I am giving you that benefit of the doubt) is the end all and be all of debates. I tried to be polite and ignore your flawed reasoning just so I won't expose how LITTLE you actually know what you're talking about:



Here, you make 2 mistakes:

1. You assumed you knew what I'm talking about completely. I apologise if I wasn't defining enough about my explanations in the previous topic. If you don't know, you should have asked. I would be more than happy to explain my claims.

2. I mentioned that a high output pickup will never produce a low output tone. (Ok, perhaps this statement is a bit vague). I didn't mention that a pickup's output cannot be affected by pickup distance from a string. For a very simple example. Lets use 2 single coils. One being a Kinman Traditional (low output), and one being a Kinman HX85 (high output). By your reasoning, simply keeping the HX-85 away at a far distance would produce a sound similar to the Traditional. Lets plot the output voltage of the Traditional at the minimum distance from the string without soundwave clipping. You will have one value. You will now find that no matter what you do with the HX-85, you will NEVER have enough clearance in the guitar body for your pickup deflection from the string to be able to produce an output voltage at the same level OR lower than the highest point for the Traditional. Theoretically it's plausible, but practically it's ludicrous. Because the DC resistances of the 2 pickups are completely different.

You claim my explanation is misguiding. Which is worse? Someone listens to me, and buys a low output set of pickups because he is led to think that's the only way to get such a tone? Or someone who listens to you and thinks he can get a low output tone from a high output pickup?

If you still don't believe me, please e-mail Mr Chris Kinman and ask him if it's possible. www.kinman.com

Picking a formula off some theory is easy. Rationalising it with practical EXPERIENCE is not. And this experience is EXACTLY what I'm talking about when I make a point about your age. You can raise a point for discussion. There's nothing wrong with that, and we all welcome it. But telling everyone what's right when it's only a half-truth based on assumptions is wrong.:???:

Ahh, which is exactly why I made a duplicate in that thread, because people were under the impression that lowering pickup height will not affect the output since you said it was affected by the strength of the magnet, the number of turns and etc, but nothing about pickup height. This is what I mean about half-truths and propaganda, which prompted me to make a very very late post.

I'm referring specifically to this:

"PICKUP TONES ARE INHERENT, REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU DO TO THE HEIGHTS. IT'S GOT TO DO WITH THE NUMBER OF WINDS AROUND THE COILS, OUTPUT VOLTAGE LEVELS AND DC RESISTANCE. THERE IS NO WAY TO GET A LOW OUTPUT TONE FROM A HOT WOUND PICKUP."

KeithC: hey whitestrat, is that true?? i thought once u lower the pickup it does become lower output?


Sorry to mislead you into wasting your time writing the quoted post, I understand what you're trying to say about my age and experience, but you're mistaken because I'm writing in context to that thread.

I think there's a Chinese Idiom which describes what you're doing at the moment "hua se tian zhu"

In all respect, at least you took the time and effort to make that post. Thanks.
 
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almondx, once again, whatever lah. nothing better to say, play the religion card somemore.

i am secure with my life, i have many friends here, i have no need to argue with an 18 yr old kid who thinks he knows it all.

say what you want, typing to you here is just a waste of time.

if you really want to talk, you come to my shop. i talk to you.

unit #01-06 Longhouse food centre, upp thomson road. put time put place.

Same, if you want to talk to me, feel free to pick a place to meet. Upp thomson road is way out of my way.

Religion card is not below the belt btw.
 
Same, if you want to talk to me, feel free to pick a place to meet. Upp thomson road is way out of my way.

Religion card is not below the belt btw.

only to you it isn't.

kid, if you have the guts to come and meet me, i'll pay the cab fare. ask the cab driver to print a receipt.
 
hawker, you so rich arh?

Yea I have the guts, but you're just not worth my effort. Ok lor, you call me coward I don't mind. I rather be called coward than waste my time.

If you want to talk to me on the other hand, I'll try to make some time for you.
 
haizz.. i believe the army will sort him out.

Some advice which i know you wont accept...
knowing alot and sharing is good. But there is a very clear line between sharing and forcing your opinion into people's throats...


As one can CLEARLY see in this thread alone...

its

ALMONDX vs EVERYONE ELSE.

why do so many people feel the need to rebut you or try to argue with your opinion? I mean you've clearly established that you think you are right and everyone else can suck it... a forum is a place to share. feel free to google the definition of forum.

I do find it hilarious that you got totally assFuxxed by kelvin... since you should have ... with one look seen the quality of his work online or in his shop itself. you have what i would call the GUITAR SHARINGAN EYE (in naruto terms)

This kid even called Beez prior to sending his PRS in .. asking this how much.. that how much.. then try to low ball beez... end up somehow he got refered to GC .. where Beez even told kelvin NOT to do the guitar... some how *tsk* kelvin agreed to do the job and subsequently screwed it up for our poor almondx.
I got a chinese proverb for you too..
Yi Fen Jia Qian Yi Fen Huo. - (you get what u pay for)

Well i know adam personally too... and adam for 1 can smell Bullshit miles away.. EVEN ON MSN. :) He gives his blog to everyone to see and learn from it.. THAT is sharing. he doesnt come here and say all your PRS sucks , SOLOWAY is the only way.

Not all RJC kids are elitist la... only almondx and a few others. :)
this is the whole IQ vs EQ thing all over again.
 
Not all RJC kids are elitist la... only almondx and a few others. :)
this is the whole IQ vs EQ thing all over again.

well from the above posts we can clearly see that some people do think that all rafflesians are elitists. and i hope that by saying "kids" it isnt meant to be in a degrading manner.
 
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