extremely bad news

[soft]

jennajunkers, you got to get your value/stand right first before writing/protesting!!!

ask yourself this question -

is it right to deprive of musicians of their remuneration for their creative work?

while it is nice to 'share' but this definitely does not help feed the musicians.

 

[Vaiyen]

well, it's not the musicians complaining abt this in the 1st place. In fact, I think a musician should be honoured when someone wants to dl his tab and learn his song. And when his song gets performed in public by some kid, that's indirect advertising for him. In fact, that's how I first heard of the band 'Radiohead' - now I have all their cds.

If tabsites are shut down, the only alternative is for the kid to spend $50-odd dollars on an official transcription which is likely to have mistakes all over(trust me, I've seen lots of these) Will he? Nah, me neither.
Thus, the musician's song never gets played, because no kid can be bothered to sit down at home for days working out a song by ear, and the musician's awareness by the public suffers. And that is the death knell for a musician...

It's not the musicians that are complaining, let's get this clear. It is the BigShots(who are already frickin rich beyond belief).

Besides, the majority of musicians do not have official transcription books. So whose income are we taking away by creating our own tabs of them?

and those poor tabsite owners....threatened to be thrown in jail alongside killers and rapists, for running non-profit sites to serve fellow musicians .

There is something very wrong.

 

[afterdeath]

i feel we r taking things 4 granted lor.......

i remenbered when i 1st started playing, we had 2 use our ears or buy guitar mag or share $ buy tab books........

 

[Vaiyen]

that's why you are so good now mah :wink:
but hey, times change.

 

[soft]

Vaiyen, the music book publisher get licence from the music publisher to release the book. this licence fee (part of it) will go to the musician (composer).

software (in this case, music or sheet music) is so intangible that we think that it is ok to reproduce and share. but let's not forget the hard work put in by the people who created it and the people whose work are promoting/selling it.

 

[satch]

actually, they cant do this.

cos tabs are not like music where we shared the ARTISTE songs over the net. tabs are made by people for the people!

i might be wrong. but i really think they dont have a stand, jst wait a while and the sites shld be up. if nt, im kidna screwed already//////////

 

[redjackal]

regarding the tabs thing right.....
i think they are referring to those "offical" tabs only right?

those guitartabs.com etc etc shouldnt be part of it ?
cause aint those what some players tabbed out themselves with their ears?
and share with us only mah

 

[satch]

powertab and mxtabs is down.

UG will stand forever according to the admin guys.

this is serious.

 

[Vaiyen]

powertabs my faithful servant.. :smt022

 

[MadWerewolfBoy]

nvm... still have mysongbook... guitarpro rocks... hope dun have too many guit pro 5 tabs coming out... cuz i only have guitpro 4... haha

 

[sofyan]

its like saying its wrong to teach someone a song.. but that is just my point of view. nvmla, just do it by ear. if u relly wan, buy the book.

 

[soft]

it is not wrong to teach someone music. just that the people who wrote the song should be paid.

for example, those instructional video, if someone were to rip it and upload on the internet and share it with everyone in the name of learning. it will definitely not help feed the people who made the video.

yes, we can say that these tabs are written by people who listened to the songs and transcribed, meaning it is the work of these transcribers. but they are just 'copying' the original song!! it is like we watch a poem recital and we transcribe word for word and upload it onto the internet for others to download. this does not benifit the author at all.

if you think that these sharing of tabs are actually helping the composers/author to promote their work, then why wouldn't they simply upload it onto their own website? i mean, they have the most accurate arrangement score.

we as consumer will also skew the story to benifit ourself. sometime it does sound logical. but logical might not be the best for the producer.

 

[BlackMoo]

Yes, true these activities do not benefit the author.

However with the addition of this new 'law', it ensures revenue to record/publishing companies, not the artist. The royalties the artist receives are but a tiny fraction, if at all. This move forces us to look for original songs/transcriptions and as such, these companies make more money. Little, or none goes to the author.

We are not feeding the artists even now. We are merely feeding the company's coffers.

 

[soft]

if the musicians/author are not benifiting from it. why then do you think they sign the contract? :lol:

 

[BlackMoo]

they do benefit, however this law, the people who are really making the most out of it are the companies, not the artists.

 

[thor666]

for that elusive fame?

many artists have been through that. i ever watched Crash Test Dummies, where they spoke about just setting up their own company to do music, and be freed of the industry standard.

 

[soft]

BlackMoo, why do you say it is the companies and not the artists?

thor666, did you read the article on self publishing for local author in the newspaper today? it definitely share the same fate as self publishing for music.

 

[afterdeath]

can't blame the companies cos they r the 1 who do stuffs like the mkting, investing $ lor....... so they take the bigger shares lor....... n if can't sell n loses, the companies need 2 bear also lor....... :wink:

 

[BlackMoo]

This move simply robs budding musicians of their resources. About the companies handling marketing, true that. However really, the money mostly goes to the company. We are feeding the company more than the artists. Cos when an artist signs on, the royalty % or $ is usually set (for each sale, etc.) . So even when the company earns more, the artists still get their small fraction of the revenue.


Its like u got a chocolate bar. I share it with you. I bite 7/8 of it, and you get the remaining bit. Who ate more?

 

[thor666]

thor666, did you read the article on self publishing for local author in the newspaper today? it definitely share the same fate as self publishing for music.

could you direct me to the section/page? sorry, just can't seem to find it at the moment.