Ex-Blink 182 drummer critically injured!
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Anirudh
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Tho i respect Hendrix for his music, i dont think he deserves to be worshipped. That guy was a crackhead and drowned in his own vomit, i mean cmon..he literally killed himself.
Burton and Dimebag and such deserve they status they get. Don't know much about Barker, but hey, he got to lay Pammy Anderson..so its all good
Hope he gets well.
roninriot
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Tho i respect Hendrix for his music, i dont think he deserves to be worshipped. That guy was a crackhead and drowned in his own vomit, i mean cmon..he literally killed himself.
Burton and Dimebag and such deserve they status they get. Don't know much about Barker, but hey, he got to lay Pammy Anderson..so its all good
Hope he gets well.
So are The Beatles supposed to be downsized because they smoked weed and took LSD?
How about The Rolling Stones?
Metallica?
Oh yes, Bob Marley
um, and almost every other legendary rock musician out there.
Led Zeppelin? John Bonham?
David Bowie?
Black Sabbath?
Oh yes
Kurt Cobain shouldn't be credited because he shot himself
INXS?
Hide from X-Japan?
Don't discredit the musician for their personal lifestyles
They created great music, living or dead, drug user or otherwise, and they deserve to be respected for their craft and as icons.
Don't be a bigot.
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b33r
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JaarVis.
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On September 19, 2008, Barker was injured when the Learjet 60 in which he was a passenger crashed outside of Columbia, South Carolina. The jet was headed for Van Nuys, California. According to the Federal Aviation Administration, the plane was departing the airport when air traffic controllers saw sparks emanating from the plane. It went off the runway, smashed through a fence, crossed a nearby road, slammed into an embankment and caught fire.Barker had performed the night before at an event with former Jane's Addiction singer Perry Farrell, Gavin DeGraw and DJ AM. Barker was transported to the Joseph M. Still Burn Center in Augusta, Georgia, where he is listed in critical condition. DJ AM was also injured in the crash and was also listed in critical condition. Four others were killed in the crash, three males and one female, with autopsies being performed to identify the bodies. Two of the deceased were crew members, and two were passengers, including Chris Baker, Barker's personal assistant. On September 21, Dr. Fred Mullins, medical director of the Burn Center reported that Barker sustained second and third degree burns on his lower body and torso and was expected to recover.
THANK GOD.
THANK GOD.
AgingYouth
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Tho i respect Hendrix for his music, i dont think he deserves to be worshipped. That guy was a crackhead and drowned in his own vomit, i mean cmon..he literally killed himself.
Burton and Dimebag and such deserve they status they get. Don't know much about Barker, but hey, he got to lay Pammy Anderson..so its all good
Hope he gets well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J10w3FuCwfQ&feature=related
If you were a fan of Tool, you might have heard this being sampled on their album...
Anirudh
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The very first line of my post reads, and i quote, "Tho i respect his music....". So which part of that did you fail to comprehend? I never said they should'nt be given credit, and i am a big fan of Hendrix myself. I just dont believe in substance abuse, be in weed or tobacco, thats it.
Imagine a 10-year old kid who picks up guitar and learns about Hendrix and googles him. "Oh wow! Look Hendrix the great did drugs and died a premature(and stupid) death, cooooool, lemme try some of that too!" Trust me, it happens.
And dont call me bigot, bigot.
PS: And Yes to all the crackheads you mentioned.
Liquidribs
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visa
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That's plain ignorance and stupidity. I'd blame it on the kid's parents for not bringing him up with some common sense.
vickomaniac
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kids are just that - kids.
most of the time, instead of what they're told to do, they do the opposite.
most of the time, instead of what they're told to do, they do the opposite.
daryl
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anirudh: Hendrix didn't deserve to die because he was a pothead. it was an unfortunate incident, an indirect consequence. he was, in many ways, revolutionary and great as a musician, even you agree to that. same applies to all the musicians roninriot mentioned. they have the right to choose their lifestyles.
so why doesn't he deserve to be worshipped for his greatness and legendary status as a musician? just because he smokes weed? because he did drugs? i would tell you some drugs are GOOD, but i'm sure your narrow mind would not be able to accept that.
well that's your opinion, and i'm sure not a lot of people would agree with you. there is no point arguing with you about this; you seem like a stubborn bigot.
so why doesn't he deserve to be worshipped for his greatness and legendary status as a musician? just because he smokes weed? because he did drugs? i would tell you some drugs are GOOD, but i'm sure your narrow mind would not be able to accept that.
well that's your opinion, and i'm sure not a lot of people would agree with you. there is no point arguing with you about this; you seem like a stubborn bigot.
roninriot
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They are legendary because of their music and their skills.
Just because somebody does drugs doesn't make him any less of a legend.
A wholesome non-drug using musician who never got known for being an icon or making music worth mentioning is LESS of a MUSIC ICON than Hendrix.
We're talking music icon and legendary status here, and Hendrix is definitely one in the eyes of millions. Just because he died in his own vomit doesn't make him less of a MUSIC icon. Jon Bonham is a supreme drummer - he was an alcoholic. Only a bigot would go "Oh his music is fantastic! But he drank, so he's not a music legend!".
If we defined our musicians as MUSIC / DRUG-FREE / ONE STEP FROM HOLY HEAVEN / SOCIAL PREACHER / SINLESS OTHERWORLDLY SAINT-LIKE icons, then maybe you'd be right - by this absurdly improbably definition, Hendrix is indeed far from a legend and does not deserve the credit he has for being an icon.
Travis will also be known as an iconic drummer when he passes (eventually) and not because he banged Pamela Anderson too (Which accordingly to you, 'is all good!'). But just because he DID, doesn't make him less of a music icon.
If a kid shoots his dad because he played Grand Theft Auto IV, does that make Grand Theft Auto IV any less of an awesome game, based on the conventional merits of what defines a good game?
If Obama smoked weed when he was a teenager, does it make him less capable of being a potential President now - based on the fact that he experimented?
If you are a bigot now and go on to become an outstanding and widely-respected musician, does it make you any less of a musical legend?
If the world's greatest orator, politician, inventor, scientist, social volunteer, teacher, student, and do-gooder smokes a cigarette (Which according to you is 'tobacco abuse'), does it take away from what he has achieved in his specialized field?
The simple and most obvious answer is 'no'.
To err is human. To contradict that would be social hypocrisy.
Millions of journalists, fans, music critics and guitarists adore Hendrix as a legendary musician.
Are these people supporting his drug usage? Not necessarily. Are they supporting a music icon? Most definitely.
Mutually Exclusive
"A statistical term used to describe a situation where the occurrence of one event is not influenced or affected by another event. In addition, it is impossible for mutually exclusive events to occur at the same time."
So don't be a bigot, and most of all, don't be unoriginal sod when it comes to using words to rebuke a thorough put-down - in this case, your thorough put-down.
Oh yes, one last thing.
If I am a smoker, but I have thoroughly owned your ass here in this forum, does it make you any less owned?
The answer is 'no'.
Levan
P.S. It is conditional, non-perceptive judgment like yours that is the root of the world's social misunderstandings.
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BrainFailure
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haha,so true.
spinofdoom
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Anirudh
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Roninriot bro, its really funny how how you take this issue so seriously and did so much research and posted such a long reply. I appreciate your and Daryl's views but i just dont appreciate me being called a bigot.
You have to realise everyone is entitled to their own thoughts and opinions and i still stand by mine. and for lovelovelovelove's sake i do respect the musicians for their revolutionary contribution to the world, not their personal lifestyles. And i find it amusing that for you a debate over a topic is so that you can "own" me in the forum. Congrats, want a medal to go along too?
If you still dont get it, it's a shame.
Cheers
PS: And Daryl, your post is just Epic Fail. lawl drugs are good, sure thing bro.
You have to realise everyone is entitled to their own thoughts and opinions and i still stand by mine. and for lovelovelovelove's sake i do respect the musicians for their revolutionary contribution to the world, not their personal lifestyles. And i find it amusing that for you a debate over a topic is so that you can "own" me in the forum. Congrats, want a medal to go along too?
If you still dont get it, it's a shame.
Cheers
PS: And Daryl, your post is just Epic Fail. lawl drugs are good, sure thing bro.
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