Electro-Harmonix Micro Synthesizer and other quirky guitar efx

THOA

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Hi, guys

Just a quick question: Anyone happen to have the EHX Micro Synthesizer in their set up? Do you feel it is worth the cost? Cos from the video demos I see I think it may just solve alot of my tone issues (READ: ie the weirder the sound, the better :D)

Currently acquired a ring modulator from a fellow softie. Apart from multifx (which I plan to upgrade to Zoom G9.2), any other pedals you think I should check out?
 
for the micro synth, there are some people who prefer using the bass microsynth for geetar instead. Tracking and response better so i heard. I did try out the bass one on geetar from friend sometime back, fun is the word. But i cant really compared with the geetar one cos didnt really tried the geetar one b4

Its a funky kewl modulation efx imho. Wont go wrong having one if wanna play with sound and changing the characteristic of your instrument.

Other than micro synth, another effect from EH that change the geetar sound to bell chime, reverse volume swell, pseudo hammond organ thingy, is the HOG. Its a over the top octave pedal. Can do whammy, pseudo hammond organ sound, bell chime, octave vol swell thing and some other more. Its fun, as long as you wanna change geetar sound. Oh another weird irritating pedal from eh, flanger hoax! Its a flanger and phaser, but it will irirtate the hell outta most trying to get a working flnaging sound or phasing sound if never read the manual. This one will do weird sound by itself even without geetar signal going into it

For ring mod, if you are really serious bout it, try the moog one. Some ring mod has a limited range of frequency setting and controls. Moog one has a huge range, different waveforms, cv control of all parameters on the pedal via expression pedal, carrier in input plus some other features which are not found in lotsa pedal. Other than the ring mod, combining moog ring mod, phaser, low pass filter plus utilising all the cv input, lfo out, carrier in thing, you can get wacky sound outta it. Its more to analog synth then geetar playing, but if wanna sound, more sound to play, this one is hard to beat, in term of using pedals to get weird sound.

If wanna up the moog ring mod, look for lovetone ringstinger. Its even more quirky then the moog one. Unfortunately, its been discontinued for long and the price of lovetone modulation pedals, are way too too over the top to get on ebay.

Other than ring mod, theres another one which is quite cool imho. Its more musical compared to ring mod and usual found in vst plug in. Bit crusher/down sampling. So far theres not much of these in single pedal format. Copilot efx has an offering that does this, some diy people came up with circuit that does this as well. It can be found in one of the patch on digitech spacestation(i love their version in space station coz the ability to blend clean signal and wet signal). Can be found in alesis ineko as well.

If you wanna weird shit, the alesis ineko is worth tracking down(been discontinued as well). It has lotsa effect to alter your geetar signal. Only thing is it aint for geetar actually, so the bypass really sucks
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. But if want different sound, this one can do some signal changing to geetar.

another one not really just weird, but has some patches which are highly tweakable and totally changing the geetar sound, is the yamaha magicstomp. The modulation effect(octave, multiple delay, ring mod, envelope filter) in it can be tweaked a lot to get some cool sound. Just need to sit down, connect to comp and tweak to heart content

heh, if still wanna up for more weird shit, ditch all the above efx, go for max/msp and do some weird script for geetar processing. Unfortunately, i have no experience on it, other then trying some shot time testing the program and deciding i shud stick to pedals instead of feeling like studying all over again(which i really hate)
 
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listen to pathein... he's the king of weird signal mangling pedals that does not have the description like "Warm, Transparent, Sweet highs, True bypass, Amplike"
:mrgreen:
 
pathein is always willing to share!

THOA: bro, have you tried the Digitech Synth Wah? I have it.. its a cheap and effective noisemaker. you'll get weirder sounds if you put it in a feedback loop. highly recommended!
 
here's a review i wrote about the ehx micro synth for aging youth a few years ago. i think i was drunk.

The Aging Youth | Gear Gawk | Electro Harmonix Micro Synthesizer

i've never heard the bass micro synth but my curiosity is piqued. anybody got one we could try side by side?

the digitech synth wah can get you a plastic-ish facsmilie of the micro synth in a couple settings, but honestly i wouldn't really recommend it unless you really don't care about hearing your whole signal being digitalized. i love the digitech digidelay, but i have reservations about the synth wah. on the plus point it is polyphonic and much cheaper than the micro synth or the HOG (which rocks. big time).
 
I think I should explain myself clearly about what I want to achieve before I reply to your posts.

Had spent the past few months reading up and researching about guitar gears and stuff ( I barely scratched the surface), and I finally came around to understanding my needs about what I want from my guitar.

To me it is pretty much an instrument to make sound. I mean, of course, I want it to sound as a guitar when I want the guitar chuggas and jengs, so I do have my needs about tone for that kinda stuff as well (which is a whole list of novelty, sought after pedals on its own. This one also another big headache: sometimes I need C-tuning, sometimes D-tuning, sometimes must use standard tuning; I think I need to get a second guitar d...)

But I do a lot of music that is more industrial/experimental base so conventional guitar sound is part of the whole audio landscape that I am trying to achieve. I am also looking to acquire sound/noise generators; basically anything that can make sounds that I can use and play with. I was flipping through an old issue of Future Music magazine and I stumble on an issue that features guitar pedals and how they can be used not just for guitars, but for beats, keyboard, vocals etc.

Then I remembered seeing some pedals larger sized stompboxes at Yamaha, went to check it out again, discovered it was the Micro Synthesiser, checked it out on Youtube and it opened a floodgate of GAS, heh.

I saw a picture posted Dime of a set up which had a line 6 stomp box, Kaoss Pad, another stomp (which I later found out is the Moog Pathe was mentioning) and a couple of others I can't remember. Made GAS worse...

Pathe: I think I seriously need to speak to you, and maybe look through the guitar gallery and see if you posted your set up. I checked out the HOG on youtube after I checked out the Micro Synth. Another dream gear but damn ex la...

Will look through your recommendation and add to ever growing list...

Edder: Haha! Noted. Now I know what his siggy means :mrgreen:

Kjartan: Not yet, bro. Will soon!

Dan: "the digitech synth wah can get you a plastic-ish facsmilie of the micro synth in a couple settings, but honestly i wouldn't really recommend it unless you really don't care about hearing your whole signal being digitalized."

Sounds like something I would like... :mrgreen: And I get a kick out of that Enron line!

I dunno whether anyone heard of the following pedals or not:

1) Effector 13 Truly Beautiful Soda Meiser
2) Mid Fi Pitch Pirate
3) Danelectro Reel Echo
4) Mid Fi Random Number Generator
 
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i can vouch for the bass microsynth! hahah

but if u want your guitar to sound like no other, i highly recommend it. of course, if you want to break the microsynth into separate pedals and get more tweaky i recommend the following pedals

boss oc-2
synthy fuzz like devi evers
slow gear
moog low pass filter

playing style is also important, cos shredding or blues on it will sound absolutely horrible.
 
bro kjartan mentioned bout feedback looper, this one also another quirky thingy. By itself, it doesnt do anything, but when sticking various modulation pedals, wah pedal within the loop. Hehe, its good enough to blow amp speaker, irritate dogs, cats, neighbours and family members.

heh, on line 6, their filter modeller is another weird thing to play with. Theres couple of synthy patches in it where the tracking is not really good, but it can do some sounds that fun to play around.

For the kaoss pad, lotsa patches in it are actually rather similar to geetar effect(excluding the vocoder, drum, sound effect patches etc). The only thing thats fun to play with is the touch pad. But if combining with geetar, it can be hard to balance between playing the geetar and touching the pad to modulate the geetar signal. If theres a constant feed of signal going into the kp, it will be easier to play around.

heh, lastly, if wanna look for signal generator to play around. Can try diy-ing. Theres couple of sites around with info to built own signal generator. Some dont need much technical knowledge, as long can follow the connection, its quite possible to build it without understanding why the circuit will sound like that.

some of these circuit does nothing but "tiu tiu tiu, weeeeeeoooooohhhhhh zzzzzzzzzzzz ssshhhhhhhhhhhh, plak plik plickkkkkkkk dooooooo dooodooooo" sound. By itself, it irritate, but when combining with normal modulation effect and looper, it can create a soundscape by itself entirely.
 
I dunno whether anyone heard of the following pedals or not:

1) Effector 13 Truly Beautiful Soda Meiser
2) Mid Fi Pitch Pirate
3) Danelectro Reel Echo
4) Mid Fi Random Number Generator

heh missed out on this.

for e13 stuff, if wanna, look for the truely beautiful disaster, synth mangler and some of those thats been discontinued and made in small quantity. It has more experimental and wacky features which might be more suitable if needing more sounds.

Imho, soda meiser is still much of a fuzz pedal, its just that more dirty/bad sounding then most fuzz
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. It has its own characteristic thou. The context of usage be more crucial than what the pedal can do imho

Mid fi stuff, hehe, cant go wrong with it if wanna some weird sound to play around. I did breadboard the random number generator and combined it with another fuzz circuit. It sorta expand the sound of the random number generator. It can do fuzzy geetar sound and generating signal on its own with sound variation when playing with the knobs.

heres a clip which i did for the rng and fuzz combined.
wank
 
A lot of information garnered from this one single thread!

Path: Bro Edder is right. You is noisy guitar specialist. And your rng/fuzz breadboard rocks my mojo! :mrgreen:

Edder: I wish I am competent enough with circuitry. Would love to build stuff on my own, but hardly any electrical engineering experience. I think for now I will take on what is already available and just play around with possibilities. Maybe try to open up each stomp box that I get and google up on its circuit to find out what does what.

Ramone: I agree that keeping it to a 4/4 beat can be a hassle, but also I think that as long as you know the kind of sound that is gonna be created when you do certain things with your gears, you can pretty much predict the "notes" of the device and compose something out of that? I think playing with noise generators is like how you play a guitar: plucking your guitar randomly, you gonna come out noise anyway, yes?
 
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