Effects loopers to act like a/b box etc..

[sleepykitty]

looking at the effects loopers that are available in the market today, they always come with one stompswitch to activate one loop, and another stompswitch to activate another loop. if one wants to switch between loop 1 and loop 2, he would have to press the loop 1 off, and then turn on the loop 2. very troublesome.

i was wondering if it is possible to control both loops using only a single stompswitch, so it acts like an a/b box. and if possible to also include another stompswitch to activate both effects loop.

if there's any products like the above on the market, do state

 

[thrice]

i think tymusic center used to have such a pedal.
but nw its gone. cant be found in their website alr.

 

[lifele55]

Yeah, they did have that pedal from loop-master.

http://www.loop-master.com/

Its an A/B selector. Press once, A. Press again, B. Press again, A... etc. Idiot proof.

Opps, I didn't read about the BOTH loops. They have that too. A/B Y or something like that. Look it up at the site.

 

[dric]

theblueark!!

 

[sleepykitty]

i asked him already. he said he couldnt do it. but he recommended me the radial bigshot, that however could only switch between two loops, cannot activate them both.

i found a product similar to what i was looking for. but if only the bypass stompswitch was replaced with one that activated both loops :?

http://www.loop-master.com/product_info.php?cPath=33&products_id=108

anymore suggestions or recommnedations?

 

[sleepykitty]

wrong post

 

[PatheinRaindropMoe]

mixing/combining of 2 loops, either in series or parallel requires another circuit of its own on top the usual a/b box circuit. More things needed in there for max performance if not wrong

Not sure if theres ready made products for this, but i have seen schematic of a A/B box cum 2 parallel loops blender over at diystompboxes forum. Someone did as a project combining various features of ab box and parallel blend looper

if you wanna diy, perhaps can search round on diystompboxes.com forum. Or else, find the schematic and get someone to try build it.

or else, use this schematic and see how it can be combined with an AB box circuit. If can do it, theres lotsa potential in it...

 

[Nefianz]

tymusic has a loop master tt's called the clean & dirty switcher.. basically it's either loop A or B.. i had it b4.. sold it off to pujangga.. here's his board, can see the looper..

 

[theblueark]

Oh you were looking to a/b/y effects, not 2 amps?

For the Y, are you looking to have a->b or b->a or are you thinking of having them in parallel?

Either way, to my knowledge it's impossible to be done with passive switching. You'll need midi switching, with something like the G-system. Parallel adding of effects also brings about many volume and phase issues, which may result in a change of tone.

 

[tany]

ark built one for me. very small the size of ur mxr pedal. saves space.

 

[sleepykitty]

Nefianz and PatheinRaindropMoe, thanks for your inputs. i really appreaciate it

blueark, yea i'm looking into a/b/y effects. i'm planning on putting my dist and fuzz into loop A, and modulations into loop B. it's something like a clean/dirty switcheras nefianz mentioned earlier. but sometimes i need to combine, for eg, a fuzz and a chorus; not possible if i have them in separate loops yea? it's gonna be A->B i guess. what do you mean by having them in parallel?

 

[theblueark]

Nope it won't be possible to combine using conventional means.

What I usually recommend is building a box with the stompswitches near enough for you to step on both at the same time. Like what the visualsound pedals aimed to achieve.

Here we see the one i did for edo:

Parallel combining of effects...
What happens is you split your guitar signal into say, 2. Each of these signals goes into a chain of effects. At the end of the chain, they are mixed together.

Imagine the voodoo labs sparkledrive. This gem lets you mix a clean sound with the overdriven sound. Now imagine instead of a clean sound, you get to mix a phased sound with the overdrive. Or maybe a flanged sound with a chorus.

Once you get into parallel effects it will blow your mind, especially with delays in parallel.

 

[pujangga]

Woa hey! That's me board! Yo Nefianz...that Loop Master has really made it better for me. Only thing missing was a master bypass where I can turn off both loops.

I was in the market for another Loop Master for my modulation effects, where I can have what sleepykitty wanted...a switch to toggle between A, B and bypass, and a switch to combine both loops. I emphatize with you dude...

In the end I got a MOEN LP-1. At least the switches are close together. And cheaper than a Loop Master.

 

[sleepykitty]

hmm parallel effects sounds interesting. essentially it's the same as using your amp's fx loop am i right? tks ark for the info!

punjagga, for the moen LP-1. letsa you have loop A turned on, then you wanna switch to loop B. do you have to turn off loop A first and then turn on loop B?OR, just stomp on loop B and it will 'auto-off' loop A?

 

[pujangga]

Nah...still have to switch off one loop first before switching on the other. No auto-switch function. I was looking for that.

 

[dtrulez38]

wat bout Boss LS-2 line selector?

 

[Elias]

Loooper make such loopers, does he?
I have a looper built/customised by him which allows me to switch from Loop A to Loop B (and vice versa) with a single stomp switch (A/B), and there's another switch to turn both Loops on at the same time...in series if I'm not wrong (A&B), plus the third master switch (ON/OFF) to for activating or deactivating (bypass) the loops.

Anyway, here's what mine looks like (sorry, don't have any better pics for now...maybe I'll repost a better pic when I get home)

There are tonnes lots of customisation and options available (stutter, blend, etc) but upon going to his site just now, I noticed that he's currently not taking any orders due to him having near carpal tunnel syndrome

 

[sleepykitty]

i've checked out the loooper website. what he provides are a/b boxes, which sends to two separate outputs. with the option of choosing both outputs. what i'm looking for is an two loop effects looper. it has only ONE output, and has two loops

 

[dtrulez38]

i believe u're really looking for something like boss line selector.

it has a few options:
- loop A on -> off
- loop B on -> off
- loop A -> loop B -> off
- loop A + loop B -> off

it has only 1 output....i think i had the same dilemma as you b4...then bought a looper n found that it's not wat i wanted...i needed 2 inputs n 1 output and the pedal would let me choose either/both of the inputs and connect to the rest of my pedal chain....

so maybe like: guitar ----- (line selector -- rhythm distortion -- solo distortion) ---- amp...and one stomp u'll be able to choose between those 2 distortions....

 

[lifele55]

Go midi and have all the presets you want. Lol