Ear Training

[Beefy]

Ear training is important if you want to bring your craft to another level.

Trust me, it was a humbling experience after I started ear training (and it was only 1-note recognition). I had only 10% correct for starters (2 months ago)! It's now about 60% :lol:

Happy ear training everyone!

 

[ShredCow]

How do you do 1 note recognition and get 10% correct?

You mean you play some notes, and you are to point out that 1 note?

 

[gsonique]

you never did pay attention maths class did ya shred ....??

...he did 100 times and got it 10 times correct .....

 

[ShredCow]

Hahaha... man, goose, you're goofy.

I just wanted to know how he goes abt training 1 note recognition... can't be play that 1 note only right? Its gotta be playing a few notes then constanting picking out that 1 note across the octaves or something... I think?

 

[Beefy]

Here's how it works:

Insert the CD and play random tracks.

For every track, they will play this chord progression - C, F, G, C.

Then they will play 1 note. You will then determine the note.

The answer will be revealed 3 seconds later.

 

[gsonique]

some are born with that gift ....some get it fast ...some s l o w

since being the latter ....i have been workin !!
But for those who do covers or sessions this skill is a must ... :wink:

 

[ShredCow]

Here's how it works:

Insert the CD and play random tracks.

For every track, they will play this chord progression - C, F, G, C.

Then they will play 1 note. You will then determine the note.

The answer will be revealed 3 seconds later.

OH.
Hahaha.. okay... hmmm... very very cool.

Shucks, I should get around to doing this.

 

[ShredCow]

some are born with that gift ....some get it fast ...some s l o w

since being the latter ....i have been workin !!
But for those who do covers or sessions this skill is a must ... :wink:

I can join you, I'm tone deaf. :roll:

but sister has perfect pitch... one of them who gets irked to no end with out of tune-ness... oh she gets so pissed with my guitar playing.

Lets get together and train, we take turns doing the above mentioned training... hows that?

 

[gsonique]

there is one problem....we will end up tweaking pedals :lol:

 

[relinquish69]

Here's how it works:

Insert the CD and play random tracks.

For every track, they will play this chord progression - C, F, G, C.

Then they will play 1 note. You will then determine the note.

The answer will be revealed 3 seconds later.

how would this help in ear training? I dont quite understand this bit .

 

[bopakeh]

the I IV V I progression which is C, F, G, C is meant to establish the sense of key. Without a chord progression or a melody, there is no sense of key. It's a method of establishing relative pitch. So, after the progression, the CD will play a random note, say D#/Eb which is the minor 3rd in that key. So the trick is to identity the sound within the key. A minor 3rd will sound like a minor 3rd in all keys.

Identifying one note effectively should be a good start, when you can hear it instantaneously, proceed to hearing chords. Identifying inversions, chord quality etc. Transcribing does cover all this but it may be too much for someone trying to improve their ears. So ear training methods like what Beefy is working on breaks it down to the most simple exercises which are not that simple even for a guitarist who's played for a long time.

The problem is, most guitar players are not trained to think like musicians, which is to think in terms of notes rather than positions on the fretboard. And its damn hard to unlearn those years of malpracticee.

 

[tany]

i'm relative pitch. i want to be perfect pitch. lol

 

[Ichiro]

for a moment i though this thread is abt ear trainning on frequency

 

[dwarfstars]

where do we get this cd

 

[Ized]

haha shit im tone-deaf too man. How about a crash course for ppl like us? 8)

 

[bopakeh]

Unfortunately, there is really no crash course. If one was very talented there was probably no need for such crash courses in the first place. However i think it's within anyone's ability to learn. Just like learning a new language. If your parents spoke German, Italian and French, you'll be able to speak all 3 languages well probably. The problem is most of us didn't start young and hence we try to accelerate our learning with gimmicks. As a kid most of the learning is unconsious effort so its easier. As an adult the effort is more conscious and being result oriented we give up easily. So this is the main problem rather than being 'tone deaf'. No one was born with good ears, only with the potential of good ears.

And for the so inclined. Check out material like,

www.dickgrove.com
www.muse-eek.com
www.earmaster.com

Of course hire someone, preferably a pianist or horn player to help you work on the stuff in the right way. And btw, don't complain that these things are expensive, the number of guitars and pedals that most ppl have here will probably make up the GDP of an African nation. Discliam - NO offense to african nations, speaking in metaphors -

 

[hub37]

Steve Vai's ear training lessons

http://www.ibanez-guitar-players.net/steve-vai-tabs-n-lessons-les3.htm

http://www.ibanez-guitar-players.net/steve-vai-tabs-n-lessons-les4.htm

http://www.ibanez-guitar-players.net/steve-vai-tabs-n-lessons-les5.htm

http://www.ibanez-guitar-players.net/steve-vai-tabs-n-lessons-les6.htm


rgds
CK

 

[Beefy]

.......So ear training methods like what Beefy is working on breaks it down to the most simple exercises which are not that simple even for a guitarist who's played for a long time.

The problem is, most guitar players are not trained to think like musicians, which is to think in terms of notes rather than positions on the fretboard. And its damn hard to unlearn those years of malpracticee.

I am guilty of malpractice, and I want to improve my musicianship! I've been thinking too much on the fretboard and I've realised that it has affected my ability to think of notes per se. Just musical notes.

It is a step back for me but I know it will have a positive effects in my future musical journey...

 

[bin4christ]

Unfortunately, there is really no crash course. If one was very talented there was probably no need for such crash courses in the first place. However i think it's within anyone's ability to learn. Just like learning a new language. If your parents spoke German, Italian and French, you'll be able to speak all 3 languages well probably. The problem is most of us didn't start young and hence we try to accelerate our learning with gimmicks. As a kid most of the learning is unconsious effort so its easier. As an adult the effort is more conscious and being result oriented we give up easily. So this is the main problem rather than being 'tone deaf'. No one was born with good ears, only with the potential of good ears.

And for the so inclined. Check out material like,

www.dickgrove.com
www.muse-eek.com
www.earmaster.com

Of course hire someone, preferably a pianist or horn player to help you work on the stuff in the right way. And btw, don't complain that these things are expensive, the number of guitars and pedals that most ppl have here will probably make up the GDP of an African nation. Discliam - NO offense to african nations, speaking in metaphors -

v well said..