drum shells

Came across this post abit late but managed to copy my recent message at SDC:
"from my experience of nightly gig, repairing drums, setting etc, I'll break down the list below k, but this is thru my experiences and my opinion, others might differ..

Phillipine/Asian Mahogany Shell drums: Mahogany shell produce lots of lows but less on mid and hi range making it sound abit boomy and dry. The volume projection of mahogany is also low. To get that attacking tone, i always use single ply coated or clear skin on mahogany shell drum. One thing bad about asian mahogany is that it tend to warp easily and the bearing edge will become rounder(suppose to be abit sharp to get attacking tone). Yamaha stage custom uses a ply of birch wood outerply and falkalta wood-ply to make it stronger and last longer.

African Mahogany shell drums: African mahogany produce more deeper and richer tone that asian mahogany and it's drier, jazz drummer will love these wood for its dry and deep tone and a single ply coated head will add more attack to it's deep and dry tone. Still the density is the same as asian mahogany. For Pearl, they use maple reinforcement plies to strengthened the shell and to keep the shell round.

Basswood Shell Drums: Basswood shell character is the same as asian mahogany but it's louder than asian Mahogany.

Beech wood shell drums: Beech wood have a good balance of highs mid and lows and beech is stronger and last longer than asian mahogany. The only thing is that it doesn't project that much volume, basically the same as asian mahogany. For beech wood(i've used Yamaha Beech Custom for my club gig for 9 months), the best is to use double ply heads like Evans G2 or Remo Pinstripe. It's gives a beautiful attacking tone and it resonate well.

Birch wood shell drums: Birch wood produce the best attacking tone for drums, lots of bright attack but less on resonant. Sound engineers loves birch shell drums cos they're easy to eq due to their highs(treble) projection. Usually, drum companies produce deeper shell for birch to get that deeper tone and resonant(look at Yamaha Recording Custom). Personally for me, Birch drumset is good for close miking situation like in a recording studio or small to medium enclosed venue. 2-ply heads like pinstripe or g2 are good on them to add warmness to the already lots of attack tone from the birch shell.

Maple wood shell drums: As we all know, maple wood are the best for drums. All major drum companies produce their high-end drums with maple(with the exceptional of some exotic woods in their line of custom drums). Maple drumshell produce a very good balance of highs and lows and slightly lower on the mids which gives a good attacking tone and warmness. The big plus is, maple projects well and it sustain and resonate very well. And also, the older the maple kits get, the better it sounds.. For maple kit, you can either use single or double ply heads to suit your need as the maple shell kit don't choke or get muddy. The resonant these wood produce are nice to the ears.

And lastly, there's stronger and higher density wood that are used for drumkits like Jarrah, Bubinga etc.. i've tried playing on some of these kits but i couldn't give any reviews cos i didn't get to play it regularly..

Anyways, thats my opinion on the different type of wood-shell kit, remember, this is just my personal opinion and others might differ..

Keep the Faith :D
 
Ahpek/Beboptang, I need your advise. Do you know anything about Gretsch Catalina Club? It is made of mahogany, just thinking whether it is worth to buy it, and how is it compared to Yamaha Hipgig Manu Kathce Jr model.
 
Hi Bepopiggy,

I used to sell the Catalina club O/S and from my opinion it is a great kit for the money, very coolretro looking and the little kick drum packs some punch great for Jazz and softer music. I dont know to much about the Yamaha kit. I imagine that any kit with Manu Kathce name on it must be OK.

Ahpek1,

Great post man, good to know a more in depth opion on all of the different woods. Very cool.
 
BebopIggy said:
Ahpek/Beboptang, I need your advise. Do you know anything about Gretsch Catalina Club? It is made of mahogany, just thinking whether it is worth to buy it, and how is it compared to Yamaha Hipgig Manu Kathce Jr model.

Both are good bro, and like Boogieman said, the Gretsch Catalina sounds bigger(punchy) as the kick is an 18" and toms are 12" & 14", sizes that're preferred by most jazz drummers.

For Manu Katche hip-gig, it's smaller(in size and sound) and more portable and the price is around the same as the Catalina. It all depends on what you want. :D
 
I have the Manu Katche model and thinking of selling it to buy the Catalina Club. I'm drawn to it by the 18" BD, have always liked the size, but no chance to buy one. Ranking is selling it now :D

Boogieman, since you used to sell theis drumkit, do you know whether the Catalina is made of African or Asia Mahogany?
 
BebopIggy said:
I have the Manu Katche model and thinking of selling it to buy the Catalina Club. I'm drawn to it by the 18" BD, have always liked the size, but no chance to buy one. Ranking is selling it now :D

Boogieman, since you used to sell theis drumkit, do you know whether the Catalina is made of African or Asia Mahogany?

Catalina club uses Phillipine Mahogany bro. The reason i know is because i'm the drum specialist for Excel Music, the distributor for Gretsch, DW, Pacific, Lazer etc :lol:
 
Don't have so much money with me now to buy a drumkit worth few thousands dollars...sigh... will have to settle for the Catalina Club....
 
hi..

does anybody use drums with poplar shells? i believe the Sonor's 2000 series and Pearl's export series use poplar. What does it sound like as compared to birch and the other more common woods currently in the market? And does it have realiability issues? i.e. warping. I'm sure maple's a really great wood, but for alot of us, it's kinda pricey. Anpangman, ur a real lucky kid.
 
The Importance of Bearing Edge

Hi All, would like to share my views on bearing edges, copied form SDC:

Hi all, i would like to share my views on drums bearing edges.

The edge of the drums(top & bottom) where the head sits is called the bearing edge. The way this edge is cut plays a major part in how a drum sounds. Be it professional custom maple/birch etc drums or the basic or normal mahogany etc kit, if the bearing edges are cut badly or out of shape, it's as good as a crack cymbal, but for drumshell, the good thing is that you can re-cut the edge.

Basically, nowadays, drum manufacturers cut their bearing edges sharper compared to 50s to 80s era kit where the edges were more rounded. Rounded edges produces fuller and warmer but dull tone with less projection. If you're playing in a jazz band, it should be ok but with a pop/rock band, it will sound muddy and the tone will get lost in the keys, guitar bass etc mix. Sharper bearing edges, gives more projection, much more prominent attack and produces and project the true tone of the shell.

I've come across lotsa drummers who complained to me that their drums doesn't sound good after awhile and they wanted to sell of their kit, but after i personally checked their drumset, it seems that most of the toms and kick edges were out of shape or some of the wood on the edges were chipped off. I re-cut and sanded their kit's bearing edges and it sounds like a new kit, full of sustain, attack and projection. So, an advise for drummer frens out there, do check your bearing edges regularly and take good care of it as the bearing edges of drum-shells can make or break the tone and projection of your kit.

Keep the faith!

:D
 
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