Do bands in Singapore realise this?
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izumiko
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wahahaha!! new bands always got veri nervous when comes to performing..... some over nervous till they anyhow whack n tot it will work out but it always appear to be that they ended up sounding like shit.... dunno why....
sound engineers are the one trying their best to get their volumes right...all the time sound engineers reminded all bands... "pls remember ur settings on ur amps" but i dun think many bands eventually remembered tat....
cos my first gig last yr...i eventually forgot my setting n anyhow set it and ended up my bass sounded shitty..... so i learn my lesson... sound engineers words... MUST listen.. if not u will ended up being at a loss... cos u will be the one performing not the sound engineers n always... public will pin point faults at the bands not the sound engineers...
but always is the case... bands will start saying the sound engineers sound when the sound engineers are professionals... BUT then once again.. not all the time the engineers are good... it really depends...
its all by luck at times.. u wont know wat is going to happen on the gig day itself...we have got to be alert... n be fast reacting.... to face any last min changes.... to put up a good show....
if not how those professional bands make their way to the top somehow????
learn as u go along... its a good way to improve urself and also... to know more ppl.... to learn from others..... not being stubborn n just listen to wat ur heart and mind says... tat is CRAP...
hoho...shinobi...i like tat drink~~ wahahahaha~
sound engineers are the one trying their best to get their volumes right...all the time sound engineers reminded all bands... "pls remember ur settings on ur amps" but i dun think many bands eventually remembered tat....
cos my first gig last yr...i eventually forgot my setting n anyhow set it and ended up my bass sounded shitty..... so i learn my lesson... sound engineers words... MUST listen.. if not u will ended up being at a loss... cos u will be the one performing not the sound engineers n always... public will pin point faults at the bands not the sound engineers...
but always is the case... bands will start saying the sound engineers sound when the sound engineers are professionals... BUT then once again.. not all the time the engineers are good... it really depends...
its all by luck at times.. u wont know wat is going to happen on the gig day itself...we have got to be alert... n be fast reacting.... to face any last min changes.... to put up a good show....
if not how those professional bands make their way to the top somehow????
learn as u go along... its a good way to improve urself and also... to know more ppl.... to learn from others..... not being stubborn n just listen to wat ur heart and mind says... tat is CRAP... hoho...shinobi...i like tat drink~~ wahahahaha~
Heres a tip for newbie bands on how to remember your amp setting
- use ur camera phone to take a pic.
On a side note, sound guy always tells band to write down the settings, but they themselves don't really bother to write down the mixer settings! oh well...
This is where digital mixer help!
- use ur camera phone to take a pic.
On a side note, sound guy always tells band to write down the settings, but they themselves don't really bother to write down the mixer settings! oh well...
This is where digital mixer help!
wantonne
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yup.. then you know they don't bother about your sound. Usually they set the sound to the settings and then leave it as that but they will standby just incase anythign goes over the bars.
However, that's also why some bands prefer to have their own soundman, so that he or she will know exactly what settings to play on what songs and which part to increase volume and which part to lower volume.
He could lower the mic and increase the lead guitars when the solo kicks in and fades it out after it finishes and bring back the vocals.. that kinda stuff. That's if you have your own soundman. Pretty neat ey?
Freeflowclass
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i think for the sound, normally for soundcheck the soundman already has marked and adjusted everything accordingly, so they dont really need to do much. then again, the sound engineer must either be really bored or hate your music or is very hungry therefore doesnt do the sound. hahaha.
i dont really agree on that a good band's a good band, bad is bad, avg is avg. thats just a generalisation. I've seen many bands in Singapore grow over the years, and seen some bands get better and I didnt expect that to happen. So I guess it depends on how much one wants it.
For new bands peforming, or maybe just any band, vocalist/ frontman needs to lead the show, pronounce properly. Other band members dont look so bored! Look interested? Or move around, if not I'd rather listen to you guys on a CD. Keeping in time is not really impt, kinda depends on what genre you play. And since this thread is about organisers, respect your organisers. They gave YOU the gig, not one of the many other bands that there are in Singapore. They gave YOU a chance to be discovered, to have a chance to perform, and appreciate that.
Do not give attitude to your audience, unless youre already THERE in the scene. Even then, in Singapore,noone really kinda has the right to do that, unless you're The Suns. [: Heh. ANYWAY, I digress. That was biasness sorry. I mean your audience can simply walk away and not care for your music at all, but the fact that they listen to your music, appreciate that. [:
Also, I noticed some bands have the tendency to leave straight after their set. Why not stay for the others and see how others perform, see how you can improve, what not to do etc. And lingering around and talking to others, asking how the show was, would increase either fanbase or just awareness for your band. [:
Lastly, in the music scene, its hard to depend on others, thinking, haiya they will promote, haiya they will come cos they my friends, haiya people with networks will auto come to me. That kinda thing? The scene is so small, so just make a LITTLE effort to work on your own side, who knows? You might meet someone that can help your band.
i dont really agree on that a good band's a good band, bad is bad, avg is avg. thats just a generalisation. I've seen many bands in Singapore grow over the years, and seen some bands get better and I didnt expect that to happen. So I guess it depends on how much one wants it.
For new bands peforming, or maybe just any band, vocalist/ frontman needs to lead the show, pronounce properly. Other band members dont look so bored! Look interested? Or move around, if not I'd rather listen to you guys on a CD. Keeping in time is not really impt, kinda depends on what genre you play. And since this thread is about organisers, respect your organisers. They gave YOU the gig, not one of the many other bands that there are in Singapore. They gave YOU a chance to be discovered, to have a chance to perform, and appreciate that.
Do not give attitude to your audience, unless youre already THERE in the scene. Even then, in Singapore,noone really kinda has the right to do that, unless you're The Suns. [: Heh. ANYWAY, I digress. That was biasness sorry. I mean your audience can simply walk away and not care for your music at all, but the fact that they listen to your music, appreciate that. [:
Also, I noticed some bands have the tendency to leave straight after their set. Why not stay for the others and see how others perform, see how you can improve, what not to do etc. And lingering around and talking to others, asking how the show was, would increase either fanbase or just awareness for your band. [:
Lastly, in the music scene, its hard to depend on others, thinking, haiya they will promote, haiya they will come cos they my friends, haiya people with networks will auto come to me. That kinda thing? The scene is so small, so just make a LITTLE effort to work on your own side, who knows? You might meet someone that can help your band.
naomi...
i think keeping in time is pretty impt.. esp for bands playing punkrock, metal, hardcore, etc. its wat makes the crowd go, "man, that band is tight as fook! holy crap!". only way to do this is to practice, practice, practice... the hard work will shine thru when u play live bands who aren't tight live will just appear sloppy sounding, if u get wat i mean. nofx may do a heck lot of stupid stuff on stage but they're still tight as hell.
except maybe for those jazz/blues musicians, they can afford to play a little looser... slightly behind or in front of the beat. it works for them.
i think keeping in time is pretty impt.. esp for bands playing punkrock, metal, hardcore, etc. its wat makes the crowd go, "man, that band is tight as fook! holy crap!". only way to do this is to practice, practice, practice... the hard work will shine thru when u play live
bands who aren't tight live will just appear sloppy sounding, if u get wat i mean. nofx may do a heck lot of stupid stuff on stage but they're still tight as hell.except maybe for those jazz/blues musicians, they can afford to play a little looser... slightly behind or in front of the beat. it works for them.
Freeflowclass
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i mean like for recordings, timings are very impt.
such as hardcore emo metal its impt to keep timing cos of the double pedals, hence making these drummers technical drummers instead of a drummer with feel. so instead of keeping in time like exact, relax a bit and have some feel in the drumming, that i can assure will sound better
such as hardcore emo metal its impt to keep timing cos of the double pedals, hence making these drummers technical drummers instead of a drummer with feel. so instead of keeping in time like exact, relax a bit and have some feel in the drumming, that i can assure will sound better
pedialite
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heres a tip for all bands, new and old, to cure those shaking hands, worked for me anyway :/ (my first performance rapping on stage about how water is good for you)
before a show if you're shaking really hard (nervousness) do some quick harcore pushups, makes your hands tired and they wont shake anymore.
before a show if you're shaking really hard (nervousness) do some quick harcore pushups, makes your hands tired and they wont shake anymore.
if 3/4/5(whatever the number) individuals come together, believe in their music, strive to create good sounds, they will get thru.
it's the pple who talk rubbish over the phone, talk bout genres, talk bout their gears, talk too much about international stars that are the noisy dustbins.
i personally hope that i'll be able to be part of something soon.
but my ride here in soft has been disastrous.
i hope things change for the better for me.
i reely reely hope.
it's the pple who talk rubbish over the phone, talk bout genres, talk bout their gears, talk too much about international stars that are the noisy dustbins.
i personally hope that i'll be able to be part of something soon.
but my ride here in soft has been disastrous.
i hope things change for the better for me.
i reely reely hope.
serialninja
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it takes time, work and a lot of luck to find people that you love making music with. it's a great feeling once you find the right people though. i'm damn lucky i found my bandmates, they are my best friends!
izumiko
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i agree wit serialninja... my band... the fact...all had been found in soft. and now...become just like family... somehow..its always important on how u communicate.. being a weak player doesnt mean u cant find a band...
as long as the band is willing to move on with ur pace... work together.... improve together..... the fact is good enough..... if to form a band just to fool around wan to all the time gig... its actually wrong..... cos.... playing good music is veri simple...all u have to be... is... good.... really have the chemistry with ur bandmates....
if not.... everything wil sound bad...most of the time
as long as the band is willing to move on with ur pace... work together.... improve together..... the fact is good enough..... if to form a band just to fool around wan to all the time gig... its actually wrong..... cos.... playing good music is veri simple...all u have to be... is... good.... really have the chemistry with ur bandmates....
if not.... everything wil sound bad...most of the time
Freeflowclass
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damn. nows the time i wish i was in a band.
hmm hmm hmmm.
maybe i should pursue my triangle playing career.
hmm hmm hmmm.
maybe i should pursue my triangle playing career.
naomi...
i think keeping in time is pretty impt.. esp for bands playing punkrock, metal, hardcore, etc. its wat makes the crowd go, "man, that band is tight as fook! holy crap!". only way to do this is to practice, practice, practice... the hard work will shine thru when u play live
except maybe for those jazz/blues musicians, they can afford to play a little looser... slightly behind or in front of the beat. it works for them.
actually its the same for blues/jazz guys. timing is essential. nobody likes sloppy blues and jazz. the bassist and drummer (and vocals) makes or breaks a band.
iverson763
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Bringing back discussions to the topic... i got to say i was seriously impressed with ronin back when they were still together. If you went for a ronin show, you will always see the band, especially levan, hanging out with the crowd after, getting email contacts so that they can send out mass mails about upcoming performances...
they just proved a point, you don't have to have $$$ or organisers to get good advertisement, just the effort and the passion
they just proved a point, you don't have to have $$$ or organisers to get good advertisement, just the effort and the passion
Freeflowclass
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hahahaha ronin. lol.
Lizardking
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I'd rather support a good, original band with something different to offer than some washed down, crappy bunch of rock star wannabes.... cos true rock musicians keep true to their original identity... and that is what differentiates them from the rest of the herd of sheep.... good luck.....
pedialite
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Rubbing your junk on stage makes good publicity too, I think I saw him do it live in a youtube video.. haha!
visa
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It's not the antics that brought ronin its diehard, regular crowd. There are other bands that indulge in antics but don't have a fifth of the crowd. It was the effort they put into developing a relationship with their fans. I'd know- I was, and still am, one of them.
Any band selling off their CDs and having a large crowd at shows didn't do it by getting a lucky break of some sort. They get it by sheer hard work. Caracal, AVA, The Fire Fight, Plainsunset, GSE- you name it. The music might be different, but the formula to making a connection with fellow human beings is the same. You have to put in the effort.
Any band selling off their CDs and having a large crowd at shows didn't do it by getting a lucky break of some sort. They get it by sheer hard work. Caracal, AVA, The Fire Fight, Plainsunset, GSE- you name it. The music might be different, but the formula to making a connection with fellow human beings is the same. You have to put in the effort.
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