Do bands in Singapore realise this?
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Freeflowclass
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i think we speak a different language.
I have no idea what are you going on about.
I have no idea what are you going on about.
iverson763
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Just browsed a few pages back on this thread. Hope my random comments are welcome-
The title "promoter" is in fact the proper term for 'gig organizer' that we have come to use locally. By definition the promoter's onus is to take upon the financial burden of the show and PROMOTE it (which includes the band component). Presently bands are expected to promote themselves, but back a couple of years (and I mean like a decade or more back, hopefully mikemann, James, et al would agree with this statement) cover bands were leading the charge for local music and Energy, Jive Talking, John Molina, Douglas O, Speedway etc all seemed to have their identity submerged with the venue they played their residency in. The promoters in that era have now all become professional event company owners now, but they were largely responsible for pushing the acts forward. I might not agree that bands have to promote themselves so forthcomingly if its in the commercial interests of the promoter to leverage the line-up to get a better headcount. However, a bad promoter would try to stigmatise failed gigs with "lack of support" (truth: bad formula) or "bands not promoting it" (truth: it was the promoters job to promote the event).
Actually the tactic that that seems to work from experience is to sell the show as a whole sum of the bands rather than the headline + support formula. Unfortunately due to licensing and legal constraints, most creative promoters can't get interesting shows off the ground - there's only so many beach shows, helipad, tunnel, warehouse shows one can attend before novelty becomes an alien term.
btw: I agree with Visa: It seems that the most successful bands usually have the most PR acumen.
The title "promoter" is in fact the proper term for 'gig organizer' that we have come to use locally. By definition the promoter's onus is to take upon the financial burden of the show and PROMOTE it (which includes the band component). Presently bands are expected to promote themselves, but back a couple of years (and I mean like a decade or more back, hopefully mikemann, James, et al would agree with this statement) cover bands were leading the charge for local music and Energy, Jive Talking, John Molina, Douglas O, Speedway etc all seemed to have their identity submerged with the venue they played their residency in. The promoters in that era have now all become professional event company owners now, but they were largely responsible for pushing the acts forward. I might not agree that bands have to promote themselves so forthcomingly if its in the commercial interests of the promoter to leverage the line-up to get a better headcount. However, a bad promoter would try to stigmatise failed gigs with "lack of support" (truth: bad formula) or "bands not promoting it" (truth: it was the promoters job to promote the event).
Actually the tactic that that seems to work from experience is to sell the show as a whole sum of the bands rather than the headline + support formula. Unfortunately due to licensing and legal constraints, most creative promoters can't get interesting shows off the ground - there's only so many beach shows, helipad, tunnel, warehouse shows one can attend before novelty becomes an alien term.
btw: I agree with Visa: It seems that the most successful bands usually have the most PR acumen.
wantonne
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That's really something helpful to the organisers around. Thanks for shouting it out Saito.
However, I still believe that bands need to take effort in promoting themselves. Like always looking for an opportunity to perform and telling everyone they are performing (which I've seen a lot of bands have done that) and learning how to keep people comign for their shows.
Failed gigs should always be a learning point for organisers. There's a lot of other factors as well that may have contributed to the failure. And you can never blame the bands for "not promoting it" enough.
If you're the organiser, you're the one who is responsible for the success of each show as well as the failure. If you fail, that just mean you must have done something wrong.
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