Different fretboard/body materials = different sounds/maintenance methods?

Hi all,

1. Was wondering what are the different kinds of tones that come with different types of wood for the tops?

2. Is it important (other than aesthetics) what type of wood is used for the fretboard? i.e. maple, rosewood etc

3. I have a rosewood fretboard, and I heard that you can use lemon oil or some other kind of oil to moisturize it to prevent cracks and warping. And that you can only use certain oils for certain types of wood... Can anyone elaborate on this and how important is it to oil up the fretboard and how long between each application?

Thanks
 
I use lemon oil on rosewood fretboards. It does help the fretboard from drying due to our humid and unstable weather conditions.

I usually apply them once every 2 months or so. becareful not to over do it as it might soften the fretboard. I will usually apply a coat when i'm changing strings and leave them on for about half an hour and clean it off. Then i'll apply some conditioning oil

I'm not sure if lemon oil actually helps in keeping the neck straight.
 
Thanks!

Btw what is conditioning oil?

Does everyone on this Forum use lemon oil on their fretboards? Have any of you come up with any fretboard trouble because you haven't been oiling your fretboards?
 
I use white mineral oil, purchased from guardian pharmacy for use on all my rosewood fretboards.

No fragrances, no solvents, just pure white mineral oil.
It works great, no issues so far. Most commercial fretboard cleaners and conditioners use white mineral oil as a major component in their product.

Plus, its cheap. One big bottle will cost you around SGD3. Last probably a few years as well.

I apply it using a cotton cloth. A bit goes a long way.
Remember to wipe off any excess, you don't want oil lingering on top of the fretboard.

For the body and any other lacquered/painted/non wood fretboard, there is no conditioning required. Only wipe it with a cotton rag to clean off gunk.

To answer question 1 and 2.

Wood types for guitar building is a really subjective issue. There are "general" guidelines and perceptions from builders. But what really matters is the eventual end product. Btw, I'm talking about electric guitar.

For acoustic guitar, tops do matter as it is the soundboard. The top, bracing back and sides contribute to the eventual tone of an acoustic instrument. The combination of wood types will generally lead the tone to have certain frequencies that are more prevalent.

But, as with all guitars, it is better to be playing a guitar and listening to its sound rather than mulling over its wood type. General rule of thumb is that if purchasing an acoustic, ensure that the top is at least solid. Better if top and back is solid. Then choose a good sounding and playing piece from the lot. I personally think that many people are overly concerned about wood type, but I feel that sound, feel and quality of construction should be placed before wood type.

For electric guitar, my opinions are true as well regarding wood selection. Sound, feel and quality of construction should always come in before wood selection.

For fretboards, I feel that wood type has little impact besides aesthetics.
I can't feel the difference between fretboard types; maple and rosewood, of which both I have several guitars of.

I did a blind test with a very good guitarist friend of mine, he's been playing since 5, now he's 23.

I ran through several amps all at clean and dirty, letting him do blind testing of my guitars.

He played the same riffs, solos, chord strummings for all guitars and amps. Amp testing isn't part of it, I informed him the specific amp being used and the setting of the amps. Amp settings were not changed throughout the testing.

I controlled the pickup selection, tone and volume for him. He did the playing.
After which, he couldn't tell the difference between fretboard types by just playing. Trying to identify guitar body woods was also difficult or almost impossible in a blind test. This is for electric guitar.

The findings from the testing and my personal experience tells me that based on specs of a guitar, its difficult to judge how it will sound. The best is to try it out. For electric guitar, try it out with ideally the same amp you have, or a similar amp.

From the testing we did, the amps and speakers made the most difference in tone.

Take my words with a pinch of salt as there are others with different experiences from mine, but always try out a guitar before buying. If it doesn't meet your standards in terms of tone and feel, don't force yourself to purchase the guitar. The tone and feel will pretty much dictate how much time you'll spend with the guitar. A good sounding and feeling guitar will always make you want to play. A crappy feeling and sounding guitar will be left in a corner gathering dust.
 
Hi Lightice,

agree with you that amps and speakers play a huge role in tone. My guitars sound totally different through different amps, whether fender style or marshall style.

Just one question though, about the mineral oils.. is it necessary in Singapore? Cos i know in places like the US, they've got crazy climate swings from winter to summer, and they humidify their guitars to prevent the wood from cracking in the cold dry winters. But there seems enough humidity in Singapore to go around.. so is the mineral oil simply to prevent rosewood from cracking, since rosewood is already naturally an oily wood? Or is there some other purpose to it? I'm curious to find out.. if there is, then i'll head out and buy some to try.. thanks!
 
Its not entirely a humidity issue.

Rosewood is an oily wood.
The oil content is very high, thats a reason why its often left unfinished. Because its difficult to finish rosewood due to the oil content of the wood.

Over time, the rosewood loses its natural oils and thus small cracks will appear. Oiling it periodically will prevent this small cracks from becoming bigger cracks. The wood naturally has minute cracks.
 
Yes, thats all it requires.

If you don't see the fretboard being dry, you can leave it alone without conditioning. The white mineral oil is only there to replace natural oils lost from playing time.

A cotton rag, put 1 small drop. A small drop can get you at least 1/3 of the fretboard.

Wipe on and off with the dry portion of the rag.
If the fretboard dirty then wipe more.
 
I've already mentioned it in previous posts. Please have a read.

If there is anything you're unclear about do post it here, I'll see if I can explain it in another way.
 
Please dont use Fast Fret to oil your rosewood. It's a product that works in a totally different way and on a totally different material then conditioning and re-oiling a rosewood/ebony woods. Just use the methods and products already stated in the previous post as directed.

You could also get Dunlop Lemon Oil from guitar stores. Its just lemon oil you could get at a hardware store.
 
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