Cant join parts together

[fire_bet]

Hi,

i been learning piano for close to a year already. And when i learn pieces, i learn them part by part. After finish learning every part, i try to piece them together but will always stop in between of parts and cant really play finish smoothly.

Is it beacuse the piece is learnt by parts thats why when playing together, every thing becomes very mechanical and cant seems to join up. So everytime when i start to play a piece, i will naturally stop after one part finish. Then stare at the scores for a few seconds then can pick up the next part.

 

[pf]

Yeah. You have to practice playing non-stop. Even when you made a mistake. Carry on like you're in the midst of a performance.

Might have to specifically practice couple of bars from one part to another.

 

[chrisiscoolerthanyou]

yes it happens all the time.
you just need to keep practising till you can join the parts without stopping

 

[DoubleBlade]

I know this may sound a little bit too harsh but whenever I practice a piece I will practice a maximum of 8 bars (both hands) for each practice session. No matter how hard or easy the song is, I will never cross the 8 bar mark. To me I rather spend time perfecting 8 bars of notes than spend the entire day trying to perfect the entire song hephazardly.

You need to take it slow at times. Although it may be a bore to constantly perfect a maximum of 8 bars for each practice session but it would definitely work towards your advantage in a long run.

 

[travisser]

hi there. i want to be part of this thread too

for me i play piano part by part too. for me i'll play one hand first, then the other hand. then i'll play two hands together. i'll start playing slowly, then get more comfortable and play at the desired speed ( which you get the most feel, not neccessary abiding to the actual tempo but should be around that region too, can't possibly its allegro assai and you play andante? ).

then if i encounter any problem, i'll play the part a few more times and rectify the problem and start playing the parts again. break them into a few parts, for me its the :| or ||. then practise!

good luck

 

[bluelite]

Hi I've give my 2 cents worth too..

I think that practising by part is not a bad way of practising..its just that you've gotta practise the linking of 2 parts too..try practising the individual parts..then practise the 2 parts together..

For example..

Practise bar 1 to 8, 9 to 16, 17 to 24, 25 to 32.
Practise 1 to 16. Practise 17 to 32.
Practise 1 to 32.

And so on and so forth. Soon enough u will be able to play the whole piece smoothly.

Also, practising right hand first then left hand should make it easier for u, in my opinion.

ALL THE BEST!

 

[pf]

I think that was what the thread setter did.

I suggest practice from bar 1 to 4, 3 to 7, 6 to 10. Something like that.

 

[MarkDrumsYou]

hmm... i think you're playing a piece too difficult for your own standard... pick an easier piece to start off. I must compliment that it's good to break down the piece into parts, which is effective practicing. Practice Seperate hands a few times, den both hands for the selected section. Never be too eager to bash through the whole piece unless you are 110% confident of the parts, if not it'll be a complete waste of time. Speed as well. Start real slow den gradually increase the metronome speed. U could also work on the transition between bars, not the whole two bars but rather the last few notes connecting to the first few of the next. No offence to other suggestions, but i think you should not keep playing even though you make a mistake during practice. Self-delusional in my opinion... stop, get your parts right, den play.

 

[pf]

Maybe I didn't make myself clear. I meant NOT ONLY practicing to get the parts right. But ALSO practice non-stop playing. I believe that the thread setter has practiced section by section and has gotten into the habit of stopping. Its muscle memory. One will always play as one has practiced.

 

[pianomankris]

Very correct, pf.

Yes - the issue is one of 'overlap memorisation' (I think I mentioned this in another thread somewhere - i'll have a look for it).

When practising overlap memorisation, start with small sections, eventually working up to very large sections, and ultimately, a full piece.

This is actually the same problem that many people who post here have - the only difference is in the wording.

fire_bet - you should view this as a positive thing, as it shows that the troubles you are having aren't idiosyncratic of you, but rather, are a general problem that most pianists (if not musicians) have/have had at one time or another.

 

[pf]

Yes. I believe its in a thread which somebody ask how to memorise the pieces. And thanks to piano_ex who explained the various ways of memorising a piece (e.g. motoric, aural, photographic, etc.), Mr_KeyboardMan who mentioned in some other threads that "Practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect."......and some more further reading that I did, then I understood and to put it together.

Yes its true, pianomankris that its those issues again and again. However, if one looks at the various issues and put them all in perspective, its eureka!

I find that learning with understanding about all these things makes it so much more fun!

 

[[vogue]angel]

pf, i come across people that don't understand why they practice like that. I think not all teachers explain to their students ( students think it's naggylar).

But when u understand what u are practicing and why you are practicing it, it makes the practice better and when u succeed in it, it gives you satisfaction.

fire_bet, i'm not a pro to advice you, but practice slowly, and this may take time to master, don't worry, u will see the results

 

[pf]

Well, students must be proactive to ask also what. Like what fire_bet is doing. Goes both ways.

However, I guess what one student wants to get out of the learning experience is different from another.