can't hear my guitar during jams
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Rollercoaster
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Crank up your volume!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!That's what I always do when I can't hear myself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :twisted:
in a small jam room. use the vocal as the benchmark. get the singer to sing with the microphone at a comfortable level. make sure everyone can hear.
then the other instrument can set their volume accordingly with reference to the vocal.
no point playing loud when we can't hear each other.
then the other instrument can set their volume accordingly with reference to the vocal.
no point playing loud when we can't hear each other.
fgl
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aGREED WITH jAMES...
BTW.. when I'm playin in aclub on a "permanent" basis and can set the amps about - I like to have it angle (on an amp) stand at front of the stage facing me (like a stage monitor) - I find it's easier to really hear your true tone, facilitates feedback etc...
OF COURSE balance is the KEY word also ...
try it..U mite like it...
8)
BTW.. when I'm playin in aclub on a "permanent" basis and can set the amps about - I like to have it angle (on an amp) stand at front of the stage facing me (like a stage monitor) - I find it's easier to really hear your true tone, facilitates feedback etc...
OF COURSE balance is the KEY word also ...
try it..U mite like it...
8)
Rollercoaster
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Hey not my fault, my ex drummer was the fucking loudest drummer in Singapore( some says Johore and Batam too) and we would always start with a certain volume at first(after sound check, balancing and everything) and will always end up turning up the volume. First my drummer would get into the music, plays his drums fucking louder than what was being played at first, than I will get pissed off and excited(yeah!!!) pissed off cos I can't hear myself, excited cos my drummer is excited!!!!!!! and I will turn my volume up, and my bassist cum vocalist would get pissed off(and excited!!! Yeah!!!!) pissed off cos he can't hear his singing and his bass and excited cos the drummer and me is getting into the music! (Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!)So that's why I always ended up cranking up the volume(and my drummer!!! and my bassist!!! Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!)....Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!So not my fault.... :lol:
Rollercoaster
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Yeah maybe I'll ask them the next time..... 
guitarman78
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Wow ... i hear alot of experts speaking in this thread ...
I agree with most of you ... BF109E is right ... Guitarists should aim for the higher registers and let the Bass cover the low Freq, especially when there is a rhythm guitarist present. Brighter tones will help too ... but dun neglect your Mid Q, coz that will make your tone sound sharp without body.
Boosting is never the right way to get right sounding. The instrument in a jam room that has no volume control is the drummer. Hence you might wanna check if your drummer is way too hard on the drums. He must always remember that a jam room is very different from playing at an arena.
Listening is the most important. Try to listen to yourself on your Amplifier. If you feel you are drowned, ask the rest to soften. Do not drown other's by boosting your volume coz you will drown others in the process. It's very selfish as what shredcow said.
Drowning effect is most predominant in bass freq ... hence it's most probably a bass or a rhythmist strumming power chords. Might wanna look into that.
I agree with most of you ... BF109E is right ... Guitarists should aim for the higher registers and let the Bass cover the low Freq, especially when there is a rhythm guitarist present. Brighter tones will help too ... but dun neglect your Mid Q, coz that will make your tone sound sharp without body.
Boosting is never the right way to get right sounding. The instrument in a jam room that has no volume control is the drummer. Hence you might wanna check if your drummer is way too hard on the drums. He must always remember that a jam room is very different from playing at an arena.
Listening is the most important. Try to listen to yourself on your Amplifier. If you feel you are drowned, ask the rest to soften. Do not drown other's by boosting your volume coz you will drown others in the process. It's very selfish as what shredcow said.
Drowning effect is most predominant in bass freq ... hence it's most probably a bass or a rhythmist strumming power chords. Might wanna look into that.
Genoscidal
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usually during jamming.. how loud shud each of e instruments be? Shud e lead be louder than rhythm? e bass louder than all? or wad?
MadWerewolfBoy
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but then... luther says dun be "ku niang" when u hold drum sticks... :twisted:
guitarman78
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Genosidal and Madwerewolfboy....
ShredCow is right .... CDs are usually mastered to perfection with the volumes of individual tracks for each instrument correctly leveled. This is a ideal and you should learn how a band should sound like through professionally mastered CDs.
However, Recording is completely different from playing live. Because when playing live, everybody is positioned differently on stage or in a jam room. Hence the required volume is different.
How musicians listen to each other?
For a professional settings, each musician should be given a monitor that is connected to an output channel on the mixer (called "mon out") Each monitors can be controlled seperately. For example: Drummer wants more guitar and vocals and less piano on his monitor ..... Guitarist wants more bass and drums and less vocals on his monitors.
In this way, each musician can get their own sound mixed catered to their individual needs. But one important note for musicians is that the sound on stage must never leak to the audience. This will make the sound engineer lose control over the sounding ... and the band might sound awful "just because you want to be heard!"
As for a Jam room .... since there are usually no monitors .... every one should tone down so that each musician can hear each other ... this seperate the men from the boys because matured musicians wants the band to sound good .... not just themselves!
Hence Drummers should play softer in a jam room because a jam rooms can NEVER contain the sound of drums. Drummers can afford to play loud only in arena or open air gigs. There are occasions that being "Gu Niang" is essential to the sound of the band.
For guitarists .... just turn your volume untill you can hear yourself just enough .... if you sound obviously clear .... you are WAY TOO LOUD.
Always remember, guitars must be soft, but must be heard!
You can churn up your volume during solos because that is when the focus of the music is on you! But when the focus of the music is on Piano or vocals .... please stay at the background as appropraite. Very important .... know the direction/focus of the music.
ShredCow is right .... CDs are usually mastered to perfection with the volumes of individual tracks for each instrument correctly leveled. This is a ideal and you should learn how a band should sound like through professionally mastered CDs.
However, Recording is completely different from playing live. Because when playing live, everybody is positioned differently on stage or in a jam room. Hence the required volume is different.
How musicians listen to each other?
For a professional settings, each musician should be given a monitor that is connected to an output channel on the mixer (called "mon out") Each monitors can be controlled seperately. For example: Drummer wants more guitar and vocals and less piano on his monitor ..... Guitarist wants more bass and drums and less vocals on his monitors.
In this way, each musician can get their own sound mixed catered to their individual needs. But one important note for musicians is that the sound on stage must never leak to the audience. This will make the sound engineer lose control over the sounding ... and the band might sound awful "just because you want to be heard!"
As for a Jam room .... since there are usually no monitors .... every one should tone down so that each musician can hear each other ... this seperate the men from the boys because matured musicians wants the band to sound good .... not just themselves!
Hence Drummers should play softer in a jam room because a jam rooms can NEVER contain the sound of drums. Drummers can afford to play loud only in arena or open air gigs. There are occasions that being "Gu Niang" is essential to the sound of the band.
For guitarists .... just turn your volume untill you can hear yourself just enough .... if you sound obviously clear .... you are WAY TOO LOUD.
Always remember, guitars must be soft, but must be heard!
You can churn up your volume during solos because that is when the focus of the music is on you! But when the focus of the music is on Piano or vocals .... please stay at the background as appropraite. Very important .... know the direction/focus of the music.
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