au contriare, chinese will never rule the world. they're simply too big and too divided. try to get even half the population together, it's virtually impossible. and to someone who mentioned about Americans thinking they rule the world...yes they do. it's a sad fact but there's nothing you can do about it. there's so much that we don't know about the world..it's sad. you think anarchy's gonna change everything overnight? america has always been a major superpower. if not, their next contender is russia. china is too far behind.
Beyonce Says Singaporeans' English Suck
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theliverevolution
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I have to agree with evident on the fact that China is still way too far behind. Too many people, and the people in the rural areas couldn't care less about what Beijing does unless its blindingly obvious that it will affect them in some way or another. Communism does not create any new opportunities for the masses. The rich become richer, the poor, poorer.
Besides, China relies more on their manpower and manufacturing industries to sustain actual GDP growth. They are still aeons behind more technologically-advanced countries.
Besides, China relies more on their manpower and manufacturing industries to sustain actual GDP growth. They are still aeons behind more technologically-advanced countries.
hifi_killer
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the phenomenon of the rich gets richer and poor gets poorer is a consequence of china taking the capitalistic road, just the opposite of communism. Capitalism is way forward, such consequence is inevitable.
China has exerted immense influence, exercise its authority around the world during the Han, Ming, and Qing Dynasty. It has shown the potential and the ability to do so.
Presently, it has an immense control in the global economy. It supported the US dysfunctional consumerist economy with loans, holds immense reserves of US$, controls the fate the labour market of manufacturing sector of in the west...
Couple that with one of the largest armies in the world..
i think its inevitable that the next century will be a China-polarised century.
"When China wakes up the world will tremble" - Napoleon Bonaparte
now back to the topic
By 2015, china will be the most populous nation with english speakers. naturally, they will exert a lot of influence or even shaped the future of the language. Who know what new words or even new rules that will be incorporated into the language.
China has exerted immense influence, exercise its authority around the world during the Han, Ming, and Qing Dynasty. It has shown the potential and the ability to do so.
Presently, it has an immense control in the global economy. It supported the US dysfunctional consumerist economy with loans, holds immense reserves of US$, controls the fate the labour market of manufacturing sector of in the west...
Couple that with one of the largest armies in the world..
i think its inevitable that the next century will be a China-polarised century.
"When China wakes up the world will tremble" - Napoleon Bonaparte
now back to the topic
By 2015, china will be the most populous nation with english speakers. naturally, they will exert a lot of influence or even shaped the future of the language. Who know what new words or even new rules that will be incorporated into the language.
the usa is practically dependant on china, because china holds a huge amount of usa bonds. how can a country that is "too far behind" another country have the capability to acquire such a huge amount of its bonds, and hold such power over it?
how is having too many people a weak point per se? you can't have too many resources imho.
the usa has rural areas too. not every part of the usa is like what we see on tv and hollywood movies. do the rural folks in the usa care anymore or less about what washington does than the rural folks in china care about what beijing does? in my honest opinion, i don't think so.
china is communist in name, but not in practice.
i'm not sure that the usa don't suffer from the syndrome of "the richer don't get richer and the poor don't get poorer". especially given the usa's economic situation right now..
it makes no difference whether they rely on certain industries over other industries. at least their economy is growing, and they are not in debt. can't exactly say the same of the usa.
i'd love to hear what are the countries that are more technologically advanced and aeons ahead of a country that has a space program, nuclear capabilities, and the 3rd largest economy in the world.
china is much stronger than some people think.
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vickomaniac
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I'd have to beg to differ that their "lack of unity" will impede their road to world domination.
All you need are the rich, really.
Even if the people in the rural areas don't give a shit, it doesn't affect the growth of a country either way because it's the government (or the people pulling strings) that decide the fate of the people.
And when some rich tycoons decide to be unbelievably generous and modernizes the rural area, free education, healthcare, food and shelter - There you have it; one super rich, united, and totally modernized China.
All you need are the rich, really.
Even if the people in the rural areas don't give a shit, it doesn't affect the growth of a country either way because it's the government (or the people pulling strings) that decide the fate of the people.
And when some rich tycoons decide to be unbelievably generous and modernizes the rural area, free education, healthcare, food and shelter - There you have it; one super rich, united, and totally modernized China.
LadyInTears
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[QUOTE=vickomaniac
your points sound feasible at first glance.
then you would realise, yes the rich can make a difference, but for how long?
you need a long term solution to solve a ever present problem
your points sound feasible at first glance.
then you would realise, yes the rich can make a difference, but for how long?
you need a long term solution to solve a ever present problem
vickomaniac
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And you need a spark to start a fire.
I never said my post was the long term solution. If anything, it's only the tip of the iceberg (;
I never said my post was the long term solution. If anything, it's only the tip of the iceberg (;
theliverevolution
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I'm talking about the REALLY rural areas. Villages in mountains, where communications are extremely sparse. Even rural areas in USA has a decent means of communication. China, not so
It's a lot more obvious in China, where the gaps between the various classes is blindingly obvious. In USA, this is cushioned by the fact that there are also many working-class and middle-class people. For China, there is also a extremely large number of people who are in the extreme lower-class.
True, but look at what industries that USA divulge themselves into. Perhaps I may have phrased it wrongly, my apologies. USA focuses a lot more into research. They are always constantly researching on the latest cutting-edge technologies, or finding ways and means to make it cheaper, better, and more affordable.
True, they are grossly in debt, but they always seem to have a stake in every new technology that comes. This comes out either through their funding of the project, if not they buy the technology and use it to their own benefit, a lot much quicker then other countries.
Yes, but how much of this technology is being used by the masses?
I never said that China was weak, but I must disagree that we would ever see that day in our lives. It will still take many many years for China to really catch up. Next century? Still possible
actually, if we talk about china's unity, as a country it is more united now than ever before. for many years in it's long history, it has been divided into many kingdoms. but that's a thing of the past and now they are focused and united, and as people say, the sleeping dragon has awoken.
theliverevolution
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hecklerkoch
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Oh really?
Would you care to quote my posts and support your points?
Cos I don't think saying 'I wonder how many Singaporean men actually dig amazonian women with big ass thunder thighs like Beyonce's.' makes me 'come across as racist toward african-americans'.
It is quite simple and elementary to see that 'amazonian women' and 'big ass thunder thighs' refer directly to Beyonce (and women with the same physical traits), and Beyonce definitely do not represent all African-American women. People, of all colours, come in all shapes and sizes, that I don't need to tell you.
In fact, I am freezing my ass in Manhattan now. I've been to Atlantic City in New Jersey, Princeton and am now in New York City, and so far, the friendlier people have been the blacks. At least among the people we have met so far in our short stay here.
I just wish that you guys could watch the China Mid Autumn celebration concert and the 60th Anniversary parade. If we still think that China is not in their top form, we are just too self centered to see it.
They are progressing way too fast.
Better brush up our Putonghua.
They are progressing way too fast.
Better brush up our Putonghua.
Agreed. China is out to prove something to the people of the world today. Their manpower is unstoppable, not to mention the perks of cheap labour helps drive more businesses towards their rapidly growing economy.
Don't forget guys, America already owes China about half a trillion US dollars. How they are going to repay China is a wonder.
hecklerkoch
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Levan and James finally agreeing on something. :mrgreen:
Revelt
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Okay. I confess, I haven't read anything in this thread besides the title.
I'm assuming that it's really popular since it keeps turning up on my new posts.
16 pages worth of debate isn't going to help because Singapore is home to the world's weirdest and most demeaning phenomenon: Ris Low.
I'm assuming that it's really popular since it keeps turning up on my new posts.
16 pages worth of debate isn't going to help because Singapore is home to the world's weirdest and most demeaning phenomenon: Ris Low.
greybackshadow
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Yeap! i totally agree, even though i just critic myself. But it's that 1 BIG MAJOR FACTOR, that prevents our music from being spread to other countries.
Not many singaporeans have that western touch in their vocals. And because we lack of it, people listening to it will think its an asian singing it (and its true).
PRONUNCIATION is also another big problem.
Not many singaporeans have that western touch in their vocals. And because we lack of it, people listening to it will think its an asian singing it (and its true).
PRONUNCIATION is also another big problem.