Beginner on Pro Tools , Cubase etc?

[DoubleBlade]

Is it wise for a beginner to begin on Pro Tools , Cubase , Sonar etc for his/her own home recording?

Or should one start off with free demos of other recording softwares first?

 

[bongman]

it was norm for beginers to start with Cakewalk in the past,
now with MIDI 20 years old, it's okay to start with anything.

better to learn something and stick with it.

 

[DoubleBlade]

But what makes Cubase , Sonar and other well known recording softwares stand out from the rest? is it because of more functions or it's complexity?

 

[bongman]

the current high-end MIDI sequencer used in the industry:

ProTools
Emagic Logic
MOTU Performer
Cubase

Sonar is the upgrade version of Cakewalk.

Regarding your question - of course it's the
features and tools the software provides.

This is only my limited knowledge, some experts may have better light.
Do share with us.

 

[joel68]

There are plenty of sequencing softwares in the market suitable to each one's budget. However, it all depends on your $$$ and interest.

Why Protools, Cubase, DP and Sonar are famous ?

1. Constant R&D development and introduction of new features
2. Stable and strong MIDI
3. Easy and user friendly
4. Good codecs for super audio quality
5. VST Plugins and compatibility with other softwares like Reason, Battery etc.
6. Adaptability to any soundcards (except Protools)
7. Editing features during post production stage
8. Effects and softsynths
9. Sample loading and editing capacity.
10. Speak with old as well as new MIDI units (Keyboards, Modules...)

The above companies have been really working out to be the best in the market..Hence they are the top ones..Also they provide excellent customer support and training.

This is my simple explanation..You need more, catch me up at SOFT meeting on this saturday..

Cheers !

 

[DoubleBlade]

Sorry dude , I would love to catch up with you on Saturday but I've got an outdoor jazz gig on saturday at East Coast Park...

So basically what you're saying is that Cubase , Protools , Sonar are compatable with almost any plug ins available in the market now?

 

[soft]

DoubleBlade, i like to find out what is the purpose of your question. As in, are you the one who is going to learn the software? What are the requirements? Coz different software have their own strong points.

What is your current set-up?

 

[bongman]

Sorry dude , I would love to catch up with you on Saturday but I've got an outdoor jazz gig on saturday at East Coast Park... ?

hi Julius,

where's your outdoor jazz gig, very keen on jazz.
pls inform of your performance.

thank you.


rdgs,
john

 

[DoubleBlade]

I'm kinda like pestering my parents to chip in some money to pursue my audio engineering interest when my mom claims her CPF in August...

That's why I would like to know about the different recording softwares available in the market today. I would like to know whether it is practical for a beginner like to start off on something cheaper or jump straight to protools , cubase , sonar etc?

I already have one which is a Magix 2004 deluxe version.

So basically I'm currently sourcing out for products to look out for

 

[DoubleBlade]

Hey Bongman , the jazz gig is called Jazz @ Marine Cove. It's a once every 2 months event held at ECP organised by the Southeast CDC

I'm not performing but rather watching it

 

[soft]

you won't be able to learn recording by just learning the software. you need hands-on! recording bands, vocals, tracking ... and stuff.

i have read from your previous post that you got a piano and started taking lessons. i have also heard some of the audio files that you've posted on OM. my suggestion - concentrate on getting your grades first. you might say, "must a musician have grades?" I will say "NO". But for you, I will say "YES".

you are living in a world of fast forward, get a hold of yourself and listen, does it sound right?

if you still want to get some knowledge on auduio recording, go and get http://www.fasoft.com

let your mum keep her cpf. you might need it when you want to get married.

 

[DoubleBlade]

i have read from your previous post that you got a piano and started taking lessons. i have also heard some of the audio files that you've posted on OM. my suggestion - concentrate on getting your grades first. you might say, "must a musician have grades?" I will say "NO". But for you, I will say "YES".

you are living in a world of fast forward, get a hold of yourself and listen, does it sound right?

Oh well , I don't take exams so I don't know where I stand

That last quote you made is something not new to me , my teacher made a similar comment on me as well.

 

[soft]

for you, MUST take exams or else you will be living in a dream with no reference to reality. music is for enjoyment, that's why musicians must have the responsibility - to make enjoyalbe music.

you can keep running away but where are you running to?

 

[joel68]

let your mum keep her cpf. you might need it when you want to get married.

That's to be really taken serious..Doubleblade..

You may spend $$$ on recording gears and softwares..Beware that Market in Singapore doesnt take you to where you have to be..

So, Think thrice and decide if you are really in need of these stuff..else you can enjoy yourself in playing Jazz..

IMO, You dont have to spend your mom's cpf for this and hard earned money does not deserve buying these stuff.

Zim

 

[DoubleBlade]

It's not because I'm running or anything but if I were to take exams now , there would be added pressure on top of my tertiary school work and projects as compared to a young child taking exams....

 

[soft]

but if you do not take exams and keep spending your parents money, there is no return on their investment!

i am sure you are more than capable of handling more pressure because from your involvement with the volunteer group, wanting to learn recording and trading in used piano.

the good thing about matured learner in music is that they can move faster up the grades. usually due to their maturity and better understanding. finger flexibility for you, a 17-18 years old should not be a problem.

a person must have the capacity to want to do all these, on top of their tertiary education. or is it another fragment of your fast-forward glitch?

 

[DoubleBlade]

like they all say jack of all trades , master at none but obviously who does not want to be a "master at none"?

I can assure you that these are not fragments of my fast forward glitches except for the piano trading part due to spur of the moment of excitement.

 

[soft]

how long have you had piano lessons?

 

[DoubleBlade]

Started at november 2003 but stopped for 6 months since june 2004 to concentrate on my O levels but later resumed on January this year

 

[bongman]

Hi DoubleBlade,

I suggest if you take piano lessons, it's better to work towards some form
of exams to reach an objeective yearly. If not, it's kind of waste of time for both yourself and teacher.

Current piano exams which I know of:
ABRSM: Grd 1-8 Classical
Grd 1-5 Jazz

I'm not sure which grade you are now, but I believe you are taking the classical route. You may want to consider the ABRSM Jazz Piano course
which is 5 years rather than the Classical 8 years.


For myself, I was lucky to start off with Technics organ for 2 years then
switch to Classical piano. After which I worked part time to pay for my MIDI class at Yamaha for about 3 years. So this is my music education, the sad
thing is I never had any returns from all these years of investment but my
venture with music as a love and passion has always made myself proud that I'm capable of something outside of my profession.

I hope this will give you some encouragement and direction of what you want to pursue, feel free to drop us email/PM if you feel lost in what you want to achieve, be it in music or your full time profession.


Rgds,
John