Anyone sound engineers here ?
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bernardgoh
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sound engineering.... get your physic and maths well... and ofcause your music lesson... 
if you are keen to know more... let me know... i can let you have a tour on my studio.
if you are keen to know more... let me know... i can let you have a tour on my studio. 
holas, when someone offer you a visit to their stuio, you straight away reply, "SURE, CAN I COME NOW?"
attitude is the most important factor for a sound engineer, after being able to mic up and press record.
http://soft.com.sg/web/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=345287&highlight=engineer#345287
http://soft.com.sg/web/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=269288&highlight=engineer#269288
attitude is the most important factor for a sound engineer, after being able to mic up and press record.
http://soft.com.sg/web/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=345287&highlight=engineer#345287
http://soft.com.sg/web/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=269288&highlight=engineer#269288
if u have money to go the "audio school" which i hear is in middle road now, i suggest that u save up that money, add a little more (or save up a bit more) and then go abroad to engineering schools in the UK, or US. Its not as expensive as u assume it can be.
The advantage of going to schools abroad is that u get exposed to the music n production scene over there. That cant be compared to whats happening in singapore or what local schools as the one in middle road can offer.
so suggestion is if u have the $$ to go for the 'middle road' school, save up a bit more n go get exposed to REAL experienced lecturers, fellow musicians, potential employers abroad.
if u dont have much $$ then, local poly'tech's proabably offer similar sutff which cover a wide range. do consider them too.
no matter which school u go to, u gotta have a keen intersest in audio. make sure u take advantage of everthing offered!
All the best pal!
The advantage of going to schools abroad is that u get exposed to the music n production scene over there. That cant be compared to whats happening in singapore or what local schools as the one in middle road can offer.
so suggestion is if u have the $$ to go for the 'middle road' school, save up a bit more n go get exposed to REAL experienced lecturers, fellow musicians, potential employers abroad.
if u dont have much $$ then, local poly'tech's proabably offer similar sutff which cover a wide range. do consider them too.
no matter which school u go to, u gotta have a keen intersest in audio. make sure u take advantage of everthing offered!
All the best pal!
holas
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i'm currently studying in sec4 , taking N's this year. so i would to know more about sound engineering as i'm quite interested to be surrounded by music and stuffs.yupps , so would like to take time to know more about this. hahas , i love to pay the studio a visit but i do not have the time seriously. All my cca coming syf , exams. no time for a breather man. thanks for all the advice and the links though. ( thanks mr soft ! ) will do learn more about this !
cheers and thanks ! :wink:
cheers and thanks ! :wink:
DrumDead
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There is an another avenue of sound engineering which is "Location Sound Recording" which is recording sound for video and film. If you have a passion for films and TV programmes, Film Sound and Video (FSV) in Ngee Ann Poly is the ideal place to learn.
I believe that the sound sectin in FSV concentrates more on sound for TV such as sound editing for tv and film, etc. Music recording has become an elective.
I believe that the sound sectin in FSV concentrates more on sound for TV such as sound editing for tv and film, etc. Music recording has become an elective.
Having worked for SAE, run a studio, am also with SP...
Here are some bits of advice or things to think about...
Audio Engineering is no bed of roses. Its not about just being a fan of music though it may be a prerequisite. You have to be sure of what you want to do and that meaning the level of commitment has to be high.
The audio industry in singapore is a small one and rest assured chances are you won't be swimming in money(unless you are really lucky) but the profession has always been more about passion. It has to be something you love. There's nothing quite like the whole production process from start to finish. It can be a real pain in the ass as well but when all is said and done, its a very good feeling. Even better when people actually like the production work.
If you are going to a school, pls realise there is more to audio engineering than just recording a piece of music or placing a mic in front of a sound soure. Audio engineering itself has so many sub divisions and at place like SAE, it would mean you have to learn all of it. I have seen many a student who only actually want to learn a particular thing, don't like the rest and eventually fall out claiming the school sucks and didn't learn anything.I personally found SAE to be great and I learned a lot and I really used the studios to max when I was there, I spent more time in the studios there when I was a student than I did at home. Home was just to shower, get stuff and back to the studio again.
Audio engineering can be quite depressing in the sense that when you hear some of your favourite records and you can't get the same quality but the key thing is listen, try, listen, try again. And along the way, you will find yourself developing your own production style. And trust me, I have been doing this for like 8 yrs plus now and there are still stuff I am learning and things I am trying out. Gears I have tried and yet to try, mixing techniques that I use, change, incorporate new techniques....it just goes on and on...
Its a big commitment. It requires patience, whether its on your part or just dealing with clients. It requires an open mind.
If you are prepared for all this, go ahead. And I wish you all the best.
(sorry for the long haphazzard post)
Here are some bits of advice or things to think about...
Audio Engineering is no bed of roses. Its not about just being a fan of music though it may be a prerequisite. You have to be sure of what you want to do and that meaning the level of commitment has to be high.
The audio industry in singapore is a small one and rest assured chances are you won't be swimming in money(unless you are really lucky) but the profession has always been more about passion. It has to be something you love. There's nothing quite like the whole production process from start to finish. It can be a real pain in the ass as well but when all is said and done, its a very good feeling. Even better when people actually like the production work.
If you are going to a school, pls realise there is more to audio engineering than just recording a piece of music or placing a mic in front of a sound soure. Audio engineering itself has so many sub divisions and at place like SAE, it would mean you have to learn all of it. I have seen many a student who only actually want to learn a particular thing, don't like the rest and eventually fall out claiming the school sucks and didn't learn anything.I personally found SAE to be great and I learned a lot and I really used the studios to max when I was there, I spent more time in the studios there when I was a student than I did at home. Home was just to shower, get stuff and back to the studio again.
Audio engineering can be quite depressing in the sense that when you hear some of your favourite records and you can't get the same quality but the key thing is listen, try, listen, try again. And along the way, you will find yourself developing your own production style. And trust me, I have been doing this for like 8 yrs plus now and there are still stuff I am learning and things I am trying out. Gears I have tried and yet to try, mixing techniques that I use, change, incorporate new techniques....it just goes on and on...
Its a big commitment. It requires patience, whether its on your part or just dealing with clients. It requires an open mind.
If you are prepared for all this, go ahead. And I wish you all the best.
(sorry for the long haphazzard post)
SherT
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+1 to what sofyan said. It isn't all about the music, especially here. It's like how some parents have been sitting on their asses complaining that their extremely talented children cannot get places in poly courses because of the number of people whose aggregates qualify them to make it to a JC but whom instead choose the poly route.
Even if you've got a gift, if you choose to sit under the coconut tree and wait for the fruits to drop on you, then you're gonna lose out to the guy who's spent the last week building a ladder to get up there.
Even if you've got a gift, if you choose to sit under the coconut tree and wait for the fruits to drop on you, then you're gonna lose out to the guy who's spent the last week building a ladder to get up there.
blueprintstudios
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SP = Diploma of err Music / Audio / Technology or osmething like that. called "DMAT"
NP = FSV (film sound video)
SAE = Sch of audio Engr
Altron
DIY = do it yourself.
etc etc etc.
one thing I'd emphasize on audio engineering, if you really love music as a "consumer" you better not pick up. because once you do listen with the "audio engineer" mindset, you're never gonna listen to music the same way as you did before. cos when a song is played your girlfriend/friends are gonna tell you "wow nice song!" , the only thing that runs through your mind is "i like the snare, but the guitars could use a little more gain and vocals need abit more high-mid boost." and like what joshuaG claims on the mixing-comparison depression. it hits me and it'll hit you too.
you can go to bandpitstop.blogspot.com and email/contact/visit every studio listed there, then probably ask for an intern as apprentice or even the basic stuff like mopping the floors and tidying up the clutter cables. watching and learn will help build confidence, humility,contacts and believe it or not, may even fuel your passion cos you're starting from underground up.. (ah reminds me of the days when I had to balance 3 part time jobs at once to get gear to learn hands on..) oh and like what joshuaG says about not swimming in money, there weren't so many studios (probably less than 10) 5/6 years ago. and today. you slowly go and count.
so yes, all the best in startin' out. you got to escalate your 'drive' from "interest" to "passion" to plain "i love sound so much if it had a vagina I'd F*ck it!" . do keep us updated kid.
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NP = FSV (film sound video)
SAE = Sch of audio Engr
Altron
DIY = do it yourself.
etc etc etc.
one thing I'd emphasize on audio engineering, if you really love music as a "consumer" you better not pick up. because once you do listen with the "audio engineer" mindset, you're never gonna listen to music the same way as you did before. cos when a song is played your girlfriend/friends are gonna tell you "wow nice song!" , the only thing that runs through your mind is "i like the snare, but the guitars could use a little more gain and vocals need abit more high-mid boost." and like what joshuaG claims on the mixing-comparison depression. it hits me and it'll hit you too.
you can go to bandpitstop.blogspot.com and email/contact/visit every studio listed there, then probably ask for an intern as apprentice or even the basic stuff like mopping the floors and tidying up the clutter cables. watching and learn will help build confidence, humility,contacts and believe it or not, may even fuel your passion cos you're starting from underground up.. (ah reminds me of the days when I had to balance 3 part time jobs at once to get gear to learn hands on..) oh and like what joshuaG says about not swimming in money, there weren't so many studios (probably less than 10) 5/6 years ago. and today. you slowly go and count.
so yes, all the best in startin' out. you got to escalate your 'drive' from "interest" to "passion" to plain "i love sound so much if it had a vagina I'd F*ck it!" . do keep us updated kid.
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markedymark
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i think the guys here have already stated the stuff you really need to know, its all about passion, overseas the prospects tend to be better, as you know the music scene here is still in its early stages of growth. if you have the heart. i say go for it but dont neglect your studies.
being a sound engineer is like being a the backstage crew of theatre productions, its not as glam and all as over in the west, its sheer hardwork. but they all have the passion for it. so yeah.
penny's worth.
being a sound engineer is like being a the backstage crew of theatre productions, its not as glam and all as over in the west, its sheer hardwork. but they all have the passion for it. so yeah.
penny's worth.
I got friends graduating from such courses and end up working in jobs that are totally zero related to any sound engineering they have learnt
to get in this line is not easy as u need the right attitude, contacts, talent and of course, LUCK.
i also seen situations whereby, A (who earned gd credits for his grades) couldnt handle a real life engineering situation or answer certain questions as opposed to B, who learnt everything by himself.
in singapore, we talk abt having qualifications or papers la, but unless u wana be a teacher or something, those papers for this line are pretty much useless.
as long u got talent, gd ears and credits to ur name and pple up there like what they hear, BINGO.
also do consider why a lot of studio (good studios) their engineers are still engaging those 'seasoned' engineers. think.
to get in this line is not easy as u need the right attitude, contacts, talent and of course, LUCK.
i also seen situations whereby, A (who earned gd credits for his grades) couldnt handle a real life engineering situation or answer certain questions as opposed to B, who learnt everything by himself.
in singapore, we talk abt having qualifications or papers la, but unless u wana be a teacher or something, those papers for this line are pretty much useless.
as long u got talent, gd ears and credits to ur name and pple up there like what they hear, BINGO.
also do consider why a lot of studio (good studios) their engineers are still engaging those 'seasoned' engineers. think.
let me juz sum everything up....
nothing is impossible in life.... it all ends up to the word "PASSION, PASSION, PASSION" how much u hv in it, determine how far u go.... esp in media industry....
gd luck to every audio engineer in the industry here in singapore.... and hope we all can work together to bring the media industry, be it sound or video to the next level in singapore....
nothing is impossible in life.... it all ends up to the word "PASSION, PASSION, PASSION" how much u hv in it, determine how far u go.... esp in media industry....
gd luck to every audio engineer in the industry here in singapore.... and hope we all can work together to bring the media industry, be it sound or video to the next level in singapore....
blueprintstudios
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cheers to that.
markedymark
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i'll drink to that 
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