Annoying experience with SOUNDMIX.

Re: Darren replies

Haha, well said well said.. :) anyway, hope jammers can have a tot to the studio operators. Is really annoying to see jammers breaking stuff in studio... I mean what kind of drummer break a ride? or guitarist blast their amp to the max and keep complaining, "I can't hear the drums or bass.... think you have to upgrade your bass amp soon......" 8O WTF.... :)

Darren said:
Harlo to those who support us and for those who dont.
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And it all boils down to = Responsibility!

U book the studio for ur slot, come down early lah. If come late, how to enjoy the full session.

That's what i always stress to my bandmates.

We are paying for our session, and it ain't free. U come late 20mins, we have wasted 20mins. Still have to pay the full amount.

We're not living in those big big countries where they can afford to use their house basements' or attics as their jamming/practise space.

I'm thankful to all those studios that I've jammed at. Good and humble service.

Cheers!!
 
Agree with shred.

We must have good jammers etiquette. Try not to be late , if we are late (due to unforseen circumstances) we should not expect to have extensions as we are dragging the next band time. Of course i have expereince a few annoying experience whereby we have to have 45mins or more because the prev band came in late.

Iam sure if you show proper and good attitude, you will be treated likewise.

Altho i do not deny that there are some studio that practise no responsibility. but so far ive only come across one.
 
about what I said here [link]

maybe all jam studio owners here should put in a feedback/compile a "FAQ /To do and Not To Dos/Ethics" for new bands, and the bands take turn to feedback (and I mean feedback,jamming studio uncle can tell you to play properly cos he already play in a band before, but you can't teach the owner how to do his job cos high chance you're either still schooling or serving NS)
... so both sides will have a better experience during the booking/jamming process.

and for some demanding bands who thinks "the customer is always right". I suggest you change that to "the customer can always leave and go somewhere else." sometimes walking away and move on is peace for both sides. Waste lesser time and brainpower to fight and do something more positively productive.

P.S : i'm neither a jam studio owner or play in a band, just listened to feedback from both sides during recording. so i'm not taking anyone's sides. pls don't flame me.

70¢ worth.
 
time bomb

Hi guys,
Good intentions but really?
Studio owners will always have their worries and bands will always have their wants and wishes. Its impossible to please everyone. And no no I am really not discouraging anyone here.
I had thought about starting a best studio thread a long while ago but decided otherwise cos its a two edge sword. It could help me or it could harm me in the worst possible way. As happy as I am that someone mentioned my place as one of the best, I am concerned about the flaming thats about to happen to many other studios. maybe even to mine as I have recently seen.
I dont have the right words to explain it but it just feels wrong to start a best studio thread cos that would mean the worst studio thread as well. These are people's rice bowl. It may seem I am defending mine but in truth its not my full time job. One comment can lead to someone's livelihood going down the drain and I seriously dont think its right. It's already bad enough that studio owners now have to operate 24/7 to cover overheads, open on PH, even on chinese new year and christmas.
Leave them something to live on yeah?

Cheers
D
 
Well I guess there's a difference to telling people what you think and being rude?

And I was just thinking what's with the "customer can always leave and go elsewhere" mindset? I bet the government won't agree with that. I mean yes, for me, I do have the mentality of "customer can always leave and go elsewhere" but not everyone thinks that way. And in this case, do you mean if you set up some business or something, you really want your customers to leave? :\

Well I've never been to Soundmix. So I can't say much about the studio. But I can see that most people (in this forum, in this thread) seems to like it. So all's well, ends well.
 
pepper- said:
And I was just thinking what's with the "customer can always leave and go elsewhere" mindset? I bet the government won't agree with that......
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the term "customer can always leave and go elsewhere" can be described in a case where if I'm the band to book a jam session with the jamstudio and I don't like what he's giving me even after negotiation, I can always leave and go some other place to get what I want. and in the shop owner's point of view, he's not gonna be happy seeing my face anyway, money he can earn from someone else. so when both sides don't need each other, it is truly better to just leave than to stay around and fight over pointless issues. both side happy. why bother diss a jam studio here and next time when you go somewhere else to jam, I'll be just "that selfish band who got nothing better to do but to whine online to spoil business out of petty vengeance". and is it truly worth it to have your reputation black listed like that?

of course i don't mean setup a business so I want my customers to leave. but sometimes if the bad customers make you lose your mood (which in turn you end up treating the good customers crappy too). you'd rather them just go somewhere else. I'm sure all you jam studio owners here have a problem of "eh we friend friend, I pay you the jamming fee next time. (and it's forgotten)". friend is friend but after a while you'd rather tell them off and either they pay up or they disappear for good.
 
I think all jamming studios should gang up and shitlists bands or individuals who show a lousy attitude. I've heard lots of stories eg:

(a) booking a slot and din turn up without even having the decency to call l the studio operator. Some even switched off their fones or refused to pick up their hps.


(b) those who booked but frequently cancel their slots at the last minute.

(c) destructive behavor in the studio eg not treating the studio and equipment right.

Perhaps only then jammers will be more disciplined.
 
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+1 blueprint

i'm quite happy with the whole range of studios catering to all music genres and budgets. there're more than enough studios to go around.
 
hmmmmm....to err is humane...to forgive is divine....but for me an my guys....were lucky enough to have our own gears and jamming place...
(Sigh...miss out the swee lee sales :cry: )

ibanez roadstar 2 active pu
yamaha fretless bb404
yamaha fretless bbn4f
peavey combo 115, black widow equipped speakers
roland spirit bass 15
 
M : sorry I'll have to disagree with the part about "ganging up on bands", heheh cos it's not favourable to wage a war within own local music scene. in general if a band keep breaking stuff and be late at a studio , he has a right to F*** your backside and tell you to never come back again. and bands should learn to understand what went wrong instead of putting out flame posts to try make the jam studio lose business. (in return bands who side with that studio defend and flame back against the band, there goes your band's reputation. defeats the purpose right?)

however if certain jam studio owners for no reason uses non-regular bands as punching bags for a bad day. maybe you should get a punching bag instead cos you know it doesn't help.

there's a real life example of a jam studio owner who treats his regular bands like shit and what happens is the regular bands setup their own jamming studio a road away from his @ a better rate. seriously if any band wants to wage a war, do it that way. at least it's productive.

90¢ worth.
 
Hmm.

here's my 2 cents...

1. find a studio you and your mates like
2. stick to that studio
3. be on time, treat the gear there well, leave on time
4. have good conversations with the studio owner everytime be it just saying hi or asking about how business has been etc etc you get the idea
5. *important* be courteous
6. if have to cancel, apologise until the other party paiseh also
7. be happy and have a smile on your face (even if it's for the sake of political correctness)

I'm sure if you do the above, whichever studio you patronise will eventually have the owner recognise you and will go the extra mile for you.

I've found my favourite studio.. have you found yours? Or are you too egoistic/fussy to accept what's availible/out there? those are just general questions to everyone here because good service does not just come from the 'service provider' but the customer as well.

think about it for a moment :wink:
 
Re: Darren replies

Darren said:
5) Do not call us up and ask if the coffee shop nearby has got good food, whats the price and opening hours. *

* I think that only happened to me
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What's wrong about asking about price and opening hours? If I've never been to your studio before, wouldn't it be a natural thing to ask basic information like that first? Duh?
 
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