an opinion from my drumming brothers

Zyk

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hey dudes and dudettes
im in a confusion right now
i have stopped my yamaha drum lessons
as i have to study for my n's
and im thinking twice to continue
1 reason. because it's expensive?.
2 reason. because i dont really get what they are teaching me?

and i need help..
should i stop and seek other people to teach me?
like from you soft drummers to teach me?
or should i continue to learn at yamaha?.
please,clear the air for me
 
In my humble opinion, I think Yamaha has a good systematic syllabus. But the problem is if you're in the group classes, chances are that your instructor may not be able to pay enough attention to you. There may be a tendency for you to unknowingly develop some bad habits in playing and your instructor may not notice it soon enough to correct them.

Yamaha's individual lessons are only for 30minutes each time. For that short duration, you're probably only just warming up. I took lessons at Yamaha years ago. I liked the syllabus, but felt that I never had enough attention from the instructor. Developed bad habits in playing that I had a hard time correcting.

Hence I would suggest that you go for individual lessons outside. There are many working drummers out there who give lessons too. Take your time in looking for a teacher whom you can relate to (in terms of musicality and way of teaching). Different people may have different preferences. So you will have to look for a teacher whom you will feel comfortable learning from.

Hope this helps a little. Good luck! :D
 
You should get someone to teach you. Ask some of the softies here where do they get the teachings from or any recommended teachers. I heard a lot that Alvin teaches great. (not that we know each other)

Years ago I also used to learn with Yamaha, paid it from my own pocket, I was 17 at that time, and I did not get what I want.
Because I studied in the group (cheaper). Unfortunately in my group there's this slow auntie learing the grooves, so it hinders the rest of the drummers progress.

I suggest getting into a solo class, so that the teacher can concentrate on you solely.

Even though I took that drum lessons, I did not practice the lessons they'vr taught me. I depended and only focused on the once a week drum lesson at Plaza Sing, and it was a mistake not to practice during the non lesson days. It is extremely important to practice the drum lessons' assignments in the non lessons days.

Steps to be better: 1)Record yourself, see or listen to your recording, get satisfied by: 2) doing repetitions CORRECTLY at least 800 reps, for any muscle memory to memorize.

Sorry about my grammar, I just woke up

Cheers
:smt023
 
Well zyk, since money is a concern, actually if you have the time and you are determined enough, the net is kinda pretty much an encyclopedia for learning loads of stuff, drums included. the grounding from yamaha should prepare you for some note reading so it's a plus! (though you can learn that online as well!).
matt helders (i think that's his name) of the arctic monkeys learned from the web.
i personally wish i had more time and was determined enough to search the web rather than just play around. (although perhaps if i was so regimental it might have killed the interest)

anyways. just search! on google or whatever. there is SERIOUSLY a lot of stuff on the web!
www.vicfirth.com has lots of great stuff on hand technique and rudiments, and some drumset stuff as well. try this as well http://freedrumlessons.com/drum-lessons/
of course www.drummerworld.com

it all boils down to this: do you enjoy drumming? if you do, then no worries man.

Regarding to not understanding what is taught, what exactly do you mean?

oh yeah, i heard someone say once, in drumming, have a goal, but don't necessarily set a time to complete it by. as in, different people have different learning speeds, don't get too discouraged if you can't learn this aspect that fast and what not.


and lastly, do focus a bit on your studies! in singapore its really kinda impt. all the best for the Ns!
 
yo bro Zyk Pluck! he eheee....

want my opinion?

seriously, i suggest you dont take up lesson for now and concentrate on your N's
den you take lesson...

but honestly, for me, i wouldnt go for yamaha group classes...
reason??? its been said on previous post... dont haf to repeat myself...
i would personally encourage you to go for individual lessons wif instructor..
bear in mind, most instructors will teach you posture and techniques (instructors pls correct me if i'm wrong and dont flame me... haha.. if i hurt you guys, i apologise deep deep....)

techniques of playing are important, even with the type of songs that you play...... eh eh.. black label, LOG ah!!! hahaha...

if its money matter, dont really haf to go every week, but u must make sure to practice wat you learn at home.... if not, your money is just wasted just like that......

another way is that, practice wat you learn from the song at home and jam MORE MORE MORE MORE.......
the more you jam, the better you will be
the more you jam, the more you will be comforatble wif your bandmates, the songs, more confidence in yourself and at last, everything will come naturally!!!

TA-DAH!!!!!!

ps: by the way, i'm a lazy person, wif no practice at home.... no drumset, but got drum pad, but still lazy...
but hey, i try to jam as often.. hahahahah dats how i develop
but dont learn from me, bad example.. i'm just saying this to support my reason of saying jam MORE MORE MORE MORE..

:lol:
 
*all of the above....* OR

make friends with drummer buah, 5 years self taught if im not wrong.

drum lessons are expensive no doubt about it. Paying for them yourself can really make u very very broke. It also makes me all the more encouraged to practice well what teacher taught before going for the next lesson.
 
don't just look for people's opinions - do some thinking of your own as well :)

only you understand your situation the best. like naz said, yes the best idea would probably be to concentrate on your N levels first. but unless you haven't been studying, it should be ok to commit 10 minutes a day on working your hands - even on a pillow! it really depends on your situation.
 
You have to try to managed both your Study Time & Drumming....of course priorities must be taken into consideration...be flexible.

Yamaha both Drum-Text, Book 1 & 2 (Step 1 and Step 2) are good drumming books - It's not really as easy as it seems there is a wealth of information and it's well organised in a step by step approach for people learning drums.

I've finished both books, I can do all the stuffs there (it's not easy) but it's not advance stuffs and still can't play very well now, cause I lack experience - so Jamming with Band like what some Bros mentioned here is good advice - Drummers need to gain experience & confidence.
Meaning while you are learning from a Drum Instructor - it's adviceable to at the same time Jam with a Band.

Yamaha Group lesson are not expensive than Individual lessons of course, but if you dont get what they are teaching you (meaning you dont really understand what they are teaching) - You ought to either asked them to clarify, if unable to (due to time or groups too many people) - Switch learning somewhere else. The environment is not right for you.

As I'm also consider New into drumming (what's 1 1/2 years learning) - Getting the Basics correct is very important...There are many drum Instructors here in Soft...Scout around and PM them personally - they will help you.........Now assuming you have started taking lesson from a Instructor, what's Next?, try to form or join a Band (take time too here), so meantime you come to all our exchange, meet fellow Bros, enjoy your drumming, share & learn from fellow Bros/Sis here, I'm sure you find it very enjoyable.

In every Exchange - there are plenty of things we learn, or got some ideas from fellow drummers there (besides making friends) - I like to call this an Experience......Many a tines I went home - sat on my kit and tell myself "I think that guy did it like that"....I try it "It doesn't sound exactly the same" cause I didn't ask him (but I could If I want) - but what is important here is - I did that because I was inspired, I love the way he drums, I tried to do something like that, and at the end - I had some new ideas, it makes me better in a way.....plus of course many valuable info share by the many drummers/Bros/SIs at the exchange as we share our thoughts..

Come join us and find out for yourself ...cheers ! See you on the 29th Sept.
 
yamaha

to be honest yamaha is quite a rip off. not that the teachers are bad . just the pricing and politics.
 
I agree with the others. I had drum lessons(group) at Yamaha before and it kinda sucked because I felt that the lessons was too short(even tho it's about an hour long) and the teacher does not pay much attention to your mistakes. I felt frustrated every time the lesson ended cause I wanted to learn more and also the school holidays...omg..after all that money my dad spent, and lessons were only once a week after all..it was not necessary at all. Right now I'm waiting for my exams to be over so that I can join other music schools or have private lessons.
 
Quit Yamaha! There's loads of great drummers out there, and if you try to meet more people you'll find that they're willing to teach you. My band's drummer has never been to a music school but he plays like a demon!
 
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