a must pedal for bass??

[confused]

korg ax3b

 

[Freeko]

. . .ken dude, you suck at googling man. seriously. wat the heck did you search for?
and you've obviously seen too few DIs, i'm guessing 2 only so far (the two that the school has, that's all right).

yea like what colarndo said. it converts and unbalanced signal to a balanced one. unbalanced basically means it's one wave signal. balanced usually means two wave signals that are phased, i.e. direct opposites. one wave is then inverted at the end, e.g. at the mixing desk. any noise picked up will be canceled by the simple law of math that a wave of value +1 is canceled out by a wave of value -1 to a value of 0.

but u don't have to know all this. just know u need a DI in order to plug into a mixer.

and to add, Bass DIs usually have an equaliser, which is useful, and bassists bring one around even if they're not plugging into the house because of the EQ function.

thanks, actually i never seen a DI box in my life just those google images :?

 

[exin]

converting a unbalanced signal to a balanced one i agree .. but CrispyEgg .. your explaination of the DI box has totally turned what i know about the DI box upside down ..

from what i know .. and what i've been experiencing ... the DI box like what Colorado said ... is a Direct Input (DI) box ... basically .. if you plug your instrument straight into the mixer/PA system, it won't have enough gain or signal to get a healthy sound ... you'll either find that you'll have to peak your gain settings or you'll get alot of noise trying to get a healthy signal ..

a DI box basically converts a line signal into a healthy microphone signal .. meaning .. it ups the signal. Think more of it like a transformer ... so when your signal goes into your mixer you have a healthy signal to play with ...

that's the basic function .. DI boxes these days can do routing so you can have a more complete setup on stage .. and the sound engineering can have more control over the sound without affecting you ..

 

[CrispyEgg]

ah yes, i forgot to mention that too exin... =) thanks!

i think i was speaking more along the lines of the wave pattern conversion and forgot the wave amplitude conversion that happens...

btw, when u convert a signal into 'balanced', it should get amplified by 2, cuz when the waves are matched at the end of the path, (+1) + (+1) = 2. lol. things you didnt need to know

 

[exin]

if i'm not wrong .. unbalanced means stereo panned ... i think ... from studio experience lah.. balance if i'm not wrong means a mono signal routed into the L-R of a stereo signal so that when it comes out on the master of the mixer you get a stereo sound .. correct me if i'm wrong ...

 

[Freeko]

is the DI box only used for gigging? does it help you in anyway to use it at home?

 

[Colarndo]

Wa, you'll expain till I also headache. anyway the signal should be a mono channel.
It uses Tip Sleeve not Tip,Ring Sleeve(TRS) 1/4 " therefore, I doubt that's its stereo in anyway.
There are 1/4" cables that are spilt into 2 diff paths for the Insert+Return on the Mixer/Console
There's also the headphone mini-jack cable that spilts into L+R outputs.
Anyway to summarise it all, if the sound crew wants the bass sound, they will provide the D.I Box so no worries. Whether the D.I box is good/transparent enough is another story.
Most of today's Bass Pre-Amps took it a step further by having combining a D.I Box with the Bass EFX/Processor/Pre-Amp.

 

[zel]

so basically a DI box gives you an overall clearer sound right?

and then the other pedals are just for nicer sound effects?

 

[CrispyEgg]

what do you mean stereo panned? if it's an unbalanced signal, it's mono (negative positive) if it's a balanced signal, whether TRS cable, XLR, etc, it may be pre-stereo panned. e.g. your headphones have a 3.5mm jack with a TRS head, Tip, Ring, Sleeve. thus it is capable of having a stereo signal being input. however, most of the time, XLR signals are still mono, like from microphones.

 

[CrispyEgg]

oh and yup, colarndo's right. only TS cables are used for instruments, thus a mono signal. and no DI boxes do NOT give you a clearer sound.

and kenneth, can you please please go practice and stop worrying about effects and DI boxes? your parents will be the one paying for all your gadgets, go easy on them.

 

[Freeko]

^ok but sadly i'm paying for my own effects

 

[exin]

^ok but sadly i'm paying for my own effects

that's the way ... pay for your own stuff ... i never believed in asking parents to buy unneccesary gadgets for you unless it's a NEED .. or unless they are just really nice parents ... either than that . i don't believe we should fleece our parents ..

ANYWAY,

hahahah .the DI box conversation was interesting .. i'm sorry if i made it too complex ... maybe someone can just summarize what a DI box is after all .. sorry guys .

 

[gsonique]

Lets get fancy....

 

[3notesAbar]

Simple? I know simple...D.I = Direct Injection.

 

[3notesAbar]

Seriously...This pedal is worth the money, especially locally. Its 400+ USD, but also 400+ sing!!!!!! Oh yeah, it does look fancy la..But its really a utility pedal for bassists.

 

[wangdexian]

Did you just get one?

 

[exin]

told you that EBS products owns ... =) ... when i saw that i was like .. whoa . i. mean . first time lah... that's why i got an EBS pedal ... =)

 

[iverson763]

!!!!!

that ebs pedal is a.... swiss army knife man. locally? we have a local ebs dealer?

not that i got the money to buy one of those monsters, but just curious...

 

[qwerty]

hmm that ebs pedal looks interesting, the seperate frequency control for the distortion is a nice touch. I was personally thinking of getting a MXR M80. it was a toss up between the MXR or the sansamp bass di. But I prefer the seperate distortion that can be activated by foot. How does the EBS compare to the MXR M80? Or if any of you can speak from experience, which of the 3 do you prefer and why? would love to hear from people who've really tried the pedals.

I've tried both and I'm inclined to get the MXR M80, like i said, mainly because of the seperate channel for distortion compared to the sansamp. If any of you would be so kind as to give me some advice/tips. thanks

 

[cherns]

I bought one of those EBS microbasses through a HK dealer before with the intention of using it as a DI/splitter/EQ box... never really happened tho



Now I just play clean through my REDDI.