VSTs problem...

[chinkmusic]

Dear all seniors,

need some serious help in here.....just installed a new hdd, and intend to put all my music softwares n vsts inside....have installed nuendo n some other vsts....but my nuendo doesnt seem to detect some of the vsts i installed as vst instruments....i go to the root folder where i installed the vsts, i also cant open the vsts, as their file type is simply, "file"....windows would prompt me what program to open the files....i m baffled, anyone can help mi out here....? cheez, you there???


cheers,
chink :roll:

 

[bernardgoh]

If you're a registered user of Nuendo... which means you got a copy of licences Nuendo. do go to www.nuendo.com . there's many Professional User from all around the world and the tech people is there too. hope this help. Thanks.

 

[Cheez]

Is this the first time you did this? If you have used the VST before, did the same thing occur then?

VSTs are dll files. When you open the root folder, you should see dll files. And you don't click them within windows to run them - you run them within your audio software (which is Nuendo in your case). Does your "files" have a .dll suffix? If not, you can try renaming them by adding .dll at the end and try to run then again within Nuendo.

Another thing - exactly which VSTs are you using? If they are the free ones, do they come with an installer or just the .dll file?

If you've used them before within Nuendo and this is a new problem AFTER you install a new HDD, problems like that can occur if the VSTis you own are not license-free ones but those you actually bought. Some VSTis copy-protection sends your system information to the developer, usually in the form of a generated code. If you changed your system in any way - add HD, change CPU etc, your old unlock code will not work. You'll then have to contact the developers to give you a new unlock code - they usually do without too much problems.

 

[chinkmusic]

Oh...

Thanks guys....


asked ard, n found out that i didnt install the vsts into the steinberg folder where my nuendo is, thatz y couldn't "read" the vsts.....has re-installed n my vsts are happily running now.....however, one more latency problem to solve....have read previous postings about latency issues, but still dun get a clear picture..... i bought the new lexicon "LAMBDA" as my audio interface, my ram is 2gb, on a 3.2Dual core proccessor....my hdd which my sw n vsts are stored in is a 250gb 7200rpm ide disk....i dun think should have much problems, however my latency is at a horrendous input":10ms, output: 50ms... how should i go around solving this?

i have set to the asio driver provided by my audio interface, but still doesn't still to solve the prob.... my piano still sounds "sticky", if you know what i meant....can discern the latency quite clearly....geez.....

 

[chinkmusic]

No advice from anyone, please? The latency of 4.5ms is quite killing me, can't seem to do much wif my new setup.... read online that it could also be a sequencer prob.....any cubase users like to contribute? what is the best latency you can bring down to? Am using the new audio interface from Lexicon, Lambda....

Is it an issue that i m not using my C drive but a separate hard disk i just bought? some of my friends seems to advise that i should use the system drive to store all my music programs, but as i m using nuendo, i have to install n store all my vsts into the steinberg folder so that nuendo can detect my vsts.....but my C drive is only 50gb!!! which was why i added on a new hard disk of 250gb....but now the latency whenever i play my soft samples is killing.... help, help......

 

[lowjk]

No advice from anyone, please? The latency of 4.5ms is quite killing me, can't seem to do much wif my new setup

Latency of 4.5m is fine for most general audio work.
My EMU 0404 card is set at ~5ms and I don't have problems with softsynth.
It sounds immediate to me.

ps - you don't have to install into Steinberg's folder. Just install into any fold and then point Nuendo to that folder. (should be in the manual, just refer).

 

[Cheez]

What VSTis are you using? If you list the VSTis you are using, we can help you more.

Putting VSTis into another HD is fine since VSTs are loaded into RAM and then run from there. Unless you are talking about softsamplers in the form of VSTs. We can get quite complicated here. It will then depend on what VSTis you have and whether they are large enough to need HD streaming or not.

So, again, what VSTis are you using?

By the way, isn't 50GB more than sufficient? Of course, unless your PC is not dedicated to music and you have other things like games, microsoft office etc running in there. In that case, you'll need to remove all these, then optimise your machine.

Check this link for optimisation of PC:
http://www.musicxp.net/index.php

These may or may not affect latency. It may free up your system resources so enable you to load more VST, have more polyphony before getting clicks and pops etc.

 

[chinkmusic]

I m using VSTs The Grand, Edirol hyper canvas, super quartet, trilogy, morphology n blah blah blah....a whole list..... i installed everything music program into another hard disk, n all VSTis/VSTs into the same hard disk..... my C drive is having microsoft office etc, the usual pc setup....i can't afford having two pcs in my house, which is why i bought a new hard disk to dedicate all my music programs/projects/sequencing into.... Need i re-format my whole pc n put all my music programs into C drive instead?

Would using a different sequencer help? Thanks for the prompt response...

 

[Cheez]

You can afford all those VSTis and can't afford 2 PCs? Sorry to be asking, but are you using originals or pirated VSTis?

If you are using original software, then let's continue this discussion. If not, then end of discussion. Problems may very well lie in the pirated software itself. I hate to say this, but I don't support piracy.

 

[chinkmusic]

Not that everyone is a doctor and makes a few grand each month to fuel their passion. Most musicians starts off poor.

 

[Cheez]

I work in a rural 3rd world country living from support from friends and people. So I don't have a few grands per month - I barely make it for my family. When it comes to "fuel our passion", we do our planning carefully. Get only what we need, anything that we don't need we don't get. That's why I haven't upgraded my software in ages - for the sake of my 2 kids and wife.

Not having enough money is not an excuse for piracy. The key is financial planning.

I start off poor like everybody else - and I remain poor even now! There are lots of softsynths and samplers I would love to have - but I haven't got them. Wth careful planning, you can be surprised that you can "fuel your passion" legally.

 

[chinkmusic]

I rest my case....i do not wish to make this thread into a thread discussing anti or pro-pirarcy....at the end of the day, i just want to get things done.... i salute you for your high sense of righteousness in being anti-piracy, n thank you for your contributions in the thread.... had no intention of bringing up any debate, just wanted answers for my problems.... i can only say the softwares n vsts r working fine, just hardware problems i haf to fix, through other ways.... shall trough through the internet for answers i need. cheers.

 

[Cheez]

Nothing against you personally. And it is not an issue of righteousness either. It's more the pain of knowing that I save for the software and samples while others just get them free.

Not trying to turn this thread into an anti or pro-piracy thread, but a short explanation of why I've not stopped standing on my side. I use softsamplers since it's infancy days. I've seen how it had grown and developed. Most of the development and change is a fight against piracy. In the past, Gigastudio (or Gigasampler as it is used to be called) is easy to use with lots of samples out there. Now developers are moving away from it because they are trying to come up with their own copy-protection - which is of course futile since they get cracked anyway. The end result is that now samples cannot be manipulated and edited at the deeper core level like Gigastudio. That is a big hit against the sampling industry and of course hurts us consumers. And we who buy them have to settle for constant challenge-response, dongles and what have you.

Anyway, the only 2 pieces of quick advices I can give you re: your problem is this. Sometimes too many VSTis cause problems. Don't install too many. The other thing is this - softsynths and softsamplers are vastly different. Softsynths uses RAM - so if latency is a problem, the problem lies with your midi connection and hardware. For softsamplers, the issue is different. It all depends on the developer, so I cannot tell you more. It depends on whether they are using their own softsampler player (like zero-G, yellow tools etc) or Kontakt. That's a far as I can help. It will not be fair for them if I guide more - since I know some of them, and they have helped me greatly personally in my sample problems and issues. All the best to you and I sincerely hope you'll consider getting the original versions of those you find really helpful.

 

[lunarsoul]

Some links on latency.

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan05/articles/pcmusician.htm

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Oct02/articles/pcmusician1002.asp

 

[blueprintstudios]

i cannot help you with your VST problems cos i don't use them.

as for piracy issues,

if you are, it's good you're loving them enough to try get answers for your problems so you can continue using it. and start saving up to buy a.s.a.p. as 'they' say "try before buy".

if you're not using pirated software. great. sorry to hear you're having trouble using it. my only advice is should anyone report you wrongly for using illegal software, i'm sure you can simply sue for slander and all that legal hoo has.

30¢ worth

 

[bernardgoh]

I guess if using the legal software, you can always go to www.nuendo.com and register as a user and post your question there. like i say, there's alot of pro-engineer and software developers of nuendo would answer your question.