Video cover of Richie Kotzen's B-funk

[ShredCow]

The blue-s bit is probably one of the most important factors in guitar playing. Especially since you, yourself are very much into the lead guitar playing thing. No better way to work out your bends, vibrato and make simple phrases dynamic.

Look at steve lukather, allen hinds, mike landau. All blues based players who are able to almost anything. You can hear a lil bit of blues in everything they play. Richie kotzen, plays some of the best shit on his pop/soul albums like , something to say and wave of emotion.

Don't have to make it show in your own playing. But you can tell alot just by hearing someone bend and do a vibrato.

So... blues is... complusory?

I dunno man. I understand how important blues is to the guitarist, well, at least I hope I do, perhaps its my age lah, I wish to try something else, to "challenge" that "norm".

Its really tiring to do pentatonics and that blues note thing. To do that bend up to the b6 in minor key.

Probably will be going on a wild goose chase lah.

It happens.

And I still want to try. :lol:

You can tell I'm quite dis-orientated and un-satisfied with my playing as it is huh.

 

[NanoShred]

do you have the tabs for present moment or any of the howe/kotzen stuff?

Sorry man, don't have. I just wack and trial and error by ear.

I hope the video i posted on youtube was able to help you understand better.

 

[NanoShred]

Its really tiring to do pentatonics and that blues note thing. To do that bend up to the b6 in minor key.

Dont have to think about it this way and be over analytical about it. Most importantly is it sounds good and suits the song. If you limit yourself to a certain thinking then your only limiting yourself. If it calls for 3 notes and some bluesy phrases, then thats what its gotta be since the song calls for it.

So... blues is... complusory?

Ya i would say yes if your looking to be an all rounded player. Able to play over a blues progression and still retain the qualities of what makes it blues. You don't have to do it "blues nazi" style. Do it your way but still retain what makes the song a bluesy song.

 

[ShredCow]

Its really tiring to do pentatonics and that blues note thing. To do that bend up to the b6 in minor key.

Dont have to think about it this way and be over analytical about it. Most importantly is it sounds good and suits the song. If you limit yourself to a certain thinking then your only limiting yourself. If it calls for 3 notes and some bluesy phrases, then thats what its gotta be since the song calls for it.

Interesting POV there... I thought about the "sounds good and suits the song" concept but I kept finding myself going back to the same old sounds. It turned out, in my case, that my ear is the limiting factor. What sounds good (to me), will always sound this way, because I'm used to it that way.

So... blues is... complusory?

Ya i would say yes if your looking to be an all rounded player. Able to play over a blues progression and still retain the qualities of what makes it blues. You don't have to do it "blues nazi" style. Do it your way but still retain what makes the song a bluesy song.

I see. I'm not convinced blues is "complusory" yet... but I would suppose you're right - a tried formula over the years can't be wrong right?

 

[NoMiS]

cools.. feeling the same way too!! but venturing into fusion is something i learned quite abit from!!.very cool stuff...

 

[NanoShred]

What sounds good (to me), will always sound this way, because I'm used to it that way.

If all of us keep things that way, then how do we continue to grow and learn and musicians?

I see. I'm not convinced blues is "complusory" yet... but I would suppose you're right - a tried formula over the years can't be wrong right?

I don't know why your looking at blues music from that view. Its just one piece of the puzzle to add up to what ever you have.

 

[ShredCow]

What sounds good (to me), will always sound this way, because I'm used to it that way.

If all of us keep things that way, then how do we continue to grow and learn and musicians?

Oh no, I'm talking about the limitation of using one's ear, or playing what "sounds good and suits the song". I don't think it is wise to do that because what we are used to, we will tend to revert to, and most of us are tuned to things like the pentatonics, western scales, etc etc.

I see. I'm not convinced blues is "complusory" yet... but I would suppose you're right - a tried formula over the years can't be wrong right?

I don't know why your looking at blues music from that view. Its just one piece of the puzzle to add up to what ever you have.

I suppose trying to abstain from something can lead you to different areas?

As far as I see it, using blues has always given me the same picture atypical of rock...

Btw, I hope this is just a friendly discussion... I enjoy discussing, nothing more strenuous please.

 

[edo83]

Bro, can you record the same clip but without top. Then go pump some iron to be like RK, Hugo Boss model can liao

edo....are you making fun of my weight? :x

No ah, but if i want to make fun....it's all because I haven't got my amp! :evil:

To bring this discussion further, I would think the blues is an integral component to developing a strong sense of melodic phrasing and tool for expression. Perhaps not an end of tunnel solution but more of a route of advancement in our playing.

FWIW, enjoying and playing the blues has perhaps gave me a nice expressive bend and simplistic phrasing style.

 

[NanoShred]

Btw, I hope this is just a friendly discussion... I enjoy discussing, nothing more strenuous please. Wink

Ya definitely.

No ah, but if i want to make fun....it's all because I haven't got my amp!

Bogner Shiva la...why buy mesa :wink:

 

[NoMiS]

fusion thrills me.... though i am still learning how to play it... ur playing is like ice cream with peanuts... smooth and sweet, and crucnchy when it needs to be.thts where the peanuts comes in.