Tuning power toms PLEASE HELP!!

drummar-buah

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hi guys i'm using a set of power toms. yea i have a Tama Artstar - birch wood.

i'm using :
12 x 11 1st tom | weather king ambassador coated batter
13 x 12 2nd tom | ebony batter
16 x 16 floor tom | ebony batter
22 x 17 bass drum (i think) | Evans G2 batter

my toms sound has alot of overtones and rings alot man. i just wanna know wat's the general thing i have to do to reduce the overtones and the non stop ringing? other than sticking up cloth over the heads or watever. i want it to be solely on the tuning.
HELP HELP HELP
 
Head over to Drum Resources and get a pack of Moongel to assist in the reduction of overtones!

Other than dat, for tuning, its ur own prefrences. :wink:
 
yea man. but i really dowan moongel. i just wanna know where there's a general or a standard way of tuning to reduce the overtones and the ringing. like, tune the batter head tighter or watever bla bla bla
 
if im not wrong...the normal rock sounding drums are tuned tighter batter den reso?

haha if im not wrong la...btw that time i tune ur floor tom very thuddish i think quite nice siak...lol
 
eh...u remember that time when i was over ur place? i remember got 1 instance i help tune the floor tom quite 80's rock kinda sound...but u dun lyk...u said too dead...lol den we tighten....wasted

aiya i oso need help for tuning...HELP HELP...FUSION SIZES LOL :lol:
 
drummar-buah said:
AWW COME ON SOME ONE HELP ME!!

Yo buah-drummar, i copied this from my old post SDC, hope this helps abit:
Hi All,

I've been doing alot of drum tuning for friends and members' kit lately and to be frank with you all, most of them did not tune up their kit the correct way.

Tuning up your drum set with new heads/skins is very very important as it'll will determine if you'll get good tone and also, you might damaged your hoops and edges if you tune up the wrong way! YES, it'll damaged your kit.. Why? it's because if you tune your heads unevenly, your hoops will get out of shape and in the long run, so will your bearing edges and you will never get a good tone out of your kit anymore.

OK, personally for me, I'll take off the old head, then I'll clean the bearing edge of the drum and also the hoop(make sure that it's clean and free of residue) with a dry cloth. Next, I'll place the new head/skin on and place the hoop on it. I'll make sure that the hoop sit nice and evenly on the shell I'll start finger tightened the lugs horizontally. Once it's finger-tightened, I'll use both my hands to press the centre of the head gently but firm until the head gives a cracking/stretching sound. The reason for this is to make the new head sit tightly on the bearing edge and to stretch the new head. Don't worry, doing this will not spoil your new head. I'll repeat this steps 2 or 3 times to make sure that the head really sit on the edge and stretched. Once I finish this step, I'll start tuning the head evenly. I'll start at one point with quarter or lesser turn of the key(make sure you apply this to all the lugs to make it even), then I'll tune the rest horizontally and check the tone till I'm satisfied with it. Tune the top and bottom(batter & resonant side) similarly. As a start, tune it to the same tension, this will give you an even tone.

Remember, do not rush changing or tuning your new heads on your set.

Another thing you need to know is that your sticking pattern and the way you hit your drums are very very important too. The correct way is to hit all your drums at the centre to get the full tone, if you hit all around the drums you won't get a full tone, all you get is an uneven tone with lots of irritating sustain.

Hope this help buah!!

Cheers :D :D
 
hey man, i actually went back to SDC forums and read that specific post a week ago, then i re-read the tuning bible again and i dunno

ok seriously i dunno how my toms should sound like. and i won't know it till i mangaed to tune to that tone by luck. i understand that tones are not fixed and it varies from drummer to drummer according to their own taste.
yeah that post of yours has helped me. but it hasn't really answered my question

i still need to know like is there a general way of tuning to reduce the ringing and the bloody sustain and overtones, (eg. maybe tune the batter higher than the reso, or vice versa i don't know)

i've tried turning the lugs very little at a time. but i still cant seem to get the sound i want(in paragraph 3). it usually ends up dead, choked, or still ringing like mad.

this sucks.
 
drummar-buah said:
hey man, i actually went back to SDC forums and read that specific post a week ago, then i re-read the tuning bible again and i dunno

ok seriously i dunno how my toms should sound like. and i won't know it till i mangaed to tune to that tone by luck. i understand that tones are not fixed and it varies from drummer to drummer according to their own taste.
yeah that post of yours has helped me. but it hasn't really answered my question

i still need to know like is there a general way of tuning to reduce the ringing and the bloody sustain and overtones, (eg. maybe tune the batter higher than the reso, or vice versa i don't know)

i've tried turning the lugs very little at a time. but i still cant seem to get the sound i want(in paragraph 3). it usually ends up dead, choked, or still ringing like mad.

this sucks.

Yo Buah, you will be surprise to know that all pro drummers have lotsa sustain and overtones on their kit and the do not dampened it, just true acoustic sustain. For your case, you're drumming alone at home without any other musicians and the acoustic is bad as well i guess, so, what you can do is to get an o-ring to make it less ringy and at the same time get a good tone without massive dampening. Use this bro, it's not about your tuning, It's the acoustic of your place, guess it bounces the tone everywhere making the high frequency irritating to your ears.
 
yup, ah pek is right, most pro sets, if u focus and hear them play, theres still alittle buzz here and there and theres rings and overtones and the snare, it buzzzzzz !
 
nah i'm not bothered by the sympathetic buzzing from the snare.

but anyway ahpek thanx man. it still rings a bloody lot, but hell i'll just whack it harder to bring out the tone, sounds more shiok arr. haha
 
drummar-buah said:
nah i'm not bothered by the sympathetic buzzing from the snare.

but anyway ahpek thanx man. it still rings a bloody lot, but hell i'll just whack it harder to bring out the tone, sounds more shiok arr. haha

That's the way it is buah!! anyways, like Alvin said, tontine(dunno if this the correct spelling :lol: ) works well to minimize the sound for your kit. Will get it and try it out first..
 
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