Trivium - The Crusade

[The-Warlord]

Comparing Trivium to Metallica, or any of the Trivium memebers to those in Metallica, is blasphemy, end of story.

 

[NoMiS]

seriously, they only have a slight similarity man. it would be total chaos if the whole freakin album sounds like metallica, and if tht is the case. i have nothing but encourage for them to go find their own sound. but as for now. they are diff, jus tht u can tell the influence of metallica. thts it.

 

[ecko]

trivium rocks everyone's balls MAN. haha.

come on la. don't bash on bands. each one is different. if u're a musician, and u want respect from fellow musicians in the music community, you got to learn to appreciate all kinds of genres even if it's not your type or you hate it SO SO MUCH.

ALRITE FELLAS!

 

[AEnimic]

woah, Trivium huh...i like the guitar works...i dun like the screaming from the first album...dunno where the similarity to Metallica is though...but in the second album,they DO sound abit more "Metallica-ish" but to say they're clones of Metallica is just dumb...can they write good music like MOP? Nothing else matters? and most of metallica songs?

i doubt so...but yeah i respect the band...

but all i know about them being compared to metallica is because they mentioned (or was it just heafy) that they worship metallica...but yeah, hope they develop the sound...coz there aint no other band that plays like Metallica...even when they have gone shitty....

 

[DontDeRockMe]

Its pretty obvious that they put in alot of the Metallica influences into "The Crusade".... It seems like the band had sat down together in a classroom and listened to the old Metallica albums from "Kill Em All" right up to "...And Justice For All" and studied and dissected every riffs and borrowed.

"The Crusade" does definitely have some good songs here and there... But gotta admit that some of the lyrics are pretty bad and does made me cringe as well... Case in point, "Unrepentant", "To The Rats", "Tread The Floods", "Becoming The Dragon".... At least "Ascendancy" still does have some good lyrics somehow.

But in any case, I still do enjoy "The Crusade" and think that it is a good effort by them. Good guitars and drum works as well.

And just for info, "Ascendancy" is not their 1st album.. they had another one called "Ember To Inferno" before signing onto Roadrunner Records.

 

[judaspiss]

Well actually, I prefer that Heafy guy singing rather than actually screaming. His screaming has this kind of grating quality to it that i find mildly annoying. I remember thinking to myself, if only this guy could ditch the screaming and just sing on the next album, cos he obviously can carry a tune. Then whaddaya know? The guy sings throughout The Crusade. You can thank me later for the advice, Heafy.

Metallica comparisons? Being a Metallica and the Bay Area thrash and thrash metal in general for the better part of 17 years, I find the Metallica rip off accusations a bit off the mark. Musically, The Crusade offer a more variety of styles than Metallica have ever done in their prime. The album has an obvious nod to 80s metal (everything from vintage thrash and speed metal to Iron Maiden to Motley Crue and Skid Row). I bet if Trivium does not kiss Metallica's ass every 5 minutes in interviews, people would not bring up the Metallica comparisons as much. To label them a Metallica rip off is a bit unfair. Well except for that one song intro where they definitely rip off the main riff of Metallica's Through The Never. And I also can hear a riff from a Death Angel's song somewhere.

Vocal-wise, i don't think you can deliberately try to sing like someone else. Unless you try to sing like a King Diamond or something cos its a very distinguishable and recognisable style. Heafy's new vocal style is actually a pretty typical metal vocals to me. Back in the day, you have Chuck Billy from Testament who kind of sound like Hetfield. Nick Holmes from Paradise Lost sounded like that too. And a number of other metal singers who sound similar to that style. I don't think these guys were trying to sound like James Hetfield.

Personally though, I think there's only one guy who ought and should sound like James Hetfield.

Who?

James Hetfield. Man, his vocals gone downhill lately.

 

[The-Warlord]

Well actually, I prefer that Heafy guy singing rather than actually screaming. His screaming has this kind of grating quality to it that i find mildly annoying. I remember thinking to myself, if only this guy could ditch the screaming and just sing on the next album, cos he obviously can carry a tune. Then whaddaya know? The guy sings throughout The Crusade. You can thank me later for the advice, Heafy.

Metallica comparisons? Being a Metallica and the Bay Area thrash and thrash metal in general for the better part of 17 years, I find the Metallica rip off accusations a bit off the mark. Musically, The Crusade offer a more variety of styles than Metallica have ever done in their prime. The album has an obvious nod to 80s metal (everything from vintage thrash and speed metal to Iron Maiden to Motley Crue and Skid Row). I bet if Trivium does not kiss Metallica's ass every 5 minutes in interviews, people would not bring up the Metallica comparisons as much. To label them a Metallica rip off is a bit unfair. Well except for that one song intro where they definitely rip off the main riff of Metallica's Through The Never. And I also can hear a riff from a Death Angel's song somewhere.

Vocal-wise, i don't think you can deliberately try to sing like someone else. Unless you try to sing like a King Diamond or something cos its a very distinguishable and recognisable style. Heafy's new vocal style is actually a pretty typical metal vocals to me. Back in the day, you have Chuck Billy from Testament who kind of sound like Hetfield. Nick Holmes from Paradise Lost sounded like that too. And a number of other metal singers who sound similar to that style. I don't think these guys were trying to sound like James Hetfield.

Personally though, I think there's only one guy who ought and should sound like James Hetfield.

Who?

James Hetfield. Man, his vocals gone downhill lately.

You make a lot of good points, apart from your last I agree on the Madly In Anger With The World tour his voice was not up to scratch, but neither was the band. RECENTLY, however, if you watch the 2006 Rock Am Ring and performaces around them, the entire band has tightned up hugley and the Mighy Het's vocals are much better.

 

[AEnimic]

yeah good points...

Trivium isnt a JUST a Metallica carbon copy band..so stop saying they are same...however there are similarities..

:drinkers: for the singing Heafy!

 

[dissonance]

ascendancy is the 2nd album not first

 

[AEnimic]

sorry my bad!! i just followed them from ascendancy...i'm so very sorry...just giving comments as a listener...no need to point it out so much...geez

 

[chud]

the crusade is so not entertaining...i'd prefer ember to inferno! or maybe ascendancy...

the drums arent that catchy either in their new album..


thats what i think man! so eat my shorts

 

[essentialism]

show me some frigin evidence. upload me song.

I'm listening to "pull harder on the strings of your matyr" and i'm hearing shit screaming which sounds horrible and cant make out what he is saying. Wheres the hetfield in that?

Any particular era of hetfield that your referring to?

Noone can top metallica. No crappy metalcore band can become better than the gods of metal.

I believe that title should be reserved for Iron Maiden. And it doesn't matter whether Heafy sounds like Hetfield, Trivium was and still is a sad excuse for a metalcore band and unless they use their potential, it will always remain this way.