the quest for a double pedals
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blissuicide
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It pays to do a search in here. There's already lotsa talk on double pedals in tis forum. Elims cost around 600 and be prepared to pay for 9000 as it retails around 1.2k locally.
i think the elims are value for money. haven't personally tried the 9000s - but do you really need something that is really that smooth? there was a comparision between pearl, tama and dw pedals on the pearl forums, and dws are probably the least durable of the 3. you have to read it to believe that it's not that biased haha.
marcdadrummer
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get a peace nitro drive dbl pedals.. u can do lotsa things with those.. definately more value for money - though im using cobras currently, the cobras are much smoother
i personally tried the cobras, elims, dw5000 and one lucky occasion to test out the dw9000 once.
cobras are tough and rugged and smooth. very "heavy metal" feel, esp the powerglide.
elims feel AWESOME. personally i think it feels better than the cobras, but i have seen first hand the elims unable to take punishment from rugged use. highly recommended if you really nurse your equipment well.
dw5000 smoothness is not any better than cobra or elim, but seriously very rickety after sometime. check out the slave pedal build and u get what i mean.
dw9000 has smoothness on a scale of 10 to be 25. the pedal feels completely "weightless". its too good... honest! i can't play on it bcos it just feels wrong for a pedal to be that smooth! it would only be worth all its dough if your foot control is so good you can tie your shoelaces with your toes.
i personally own the cobra. been loving since i bought them almost 2 yrs ago... somemore it was 2nd hand. built like a tank they say.
cobras are tough and rugged and smooth. very "heavy metal" feel, esp the powerglide.
elims feel AWESOME. personally i think it feels better than the cobras, but i have seen first hand the elims unable to take punishment from rugged use. highly recommended if you really nurse your equipment well.
dw5000 smoothness is not any better than cobra or elim, but seriously very rickety after sometime. check out the slave pedal build and u get what i mean.
dw9000 has smoothness on a scale of 10 to be 25. the pedal feels completely "weightless". its too good... honest! i can't play on it bcos it just feels wrong for a pedal to be that smooth! it would only be worth all its dough if your foot control is so good you can tie your shoelaces with your toes.
i personally own the cobra. been loving since i bought them almost 2 yrs ago... somemore it was 2nd hand. built like a tank they say.
screamosphere
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Even I am having a tough time choosing between the cobras and the eliminators. I tried the powerglide vs black cam and the powerglide felt even both sides thus making the doubles smoother.
I have a cheap 400 ringgit Taiwan Maxtones which i dutifully fold and chuck into a Caltex bag for gigs and jams for the past 2 years. Theyre superb for heavy doubles but horrible for speed with super lag in the drive shaft. Yet it has no problems except majestic rust. Its normal for the screws to come out during play though which is why I carry em trusty pliers and drum key.
So I still wonder how my pals Elims has its joints stuffed with paper and all. His belt drive red cams Elims were quick to deny my motion that 'its the drummer not the equipment' theory when I first tried it. I didint even know my metronome hit 180.
But still a new pair of Nike track shoes aint gonna make me no Justin Gatlin. :lol:
I am quite psyched about the new cobras coming out with the cobra coil and all. But I really need to know the feedback from Elim users coz I heard they have fixed all their driveshaft and pedal assembly concerns. So, advice from all you twin pedal drummers will be major help for me. Thank you.
I have a cheap 400 ringgit Taiwan Maxtones which i dutifully fold and chuck into a Caltex bag for gigs and jams for the past 2 years. Theyre superb for heavy doubles but horrible for speed with super lag in the drive shaft. Yet it has no problems except majestic rust. Its normal for the screws to come out during play though which is why I carry em trusty pliers and drum key.
So I still wonder how my pals Elims has its joints stuffed with paper and all. His belt drive red cams Elims were quick to deny my motion that 'its the drummer not the equipment' theory when I first tried it. I didint even know my metronome hit 180.
But still a new pair of Nike track shoes aint gonna make me no Justin Gatlin. :lol: I am quite psyched about the new cobras coming out with the cobra coil and all. But I really need to know the feedback from Elim users coz I heard they have fixed all their driveshaft and pedal assembly concerns. So, advice from all you twin pedal drummers will be major help for me. Thank you.
screamosphere
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Sounds like the Elims are smoother, thanx for your feedback Chad.
Do you mind sharing your Elim settings? What cams are you using, bcos i understand theres actually 4 plus 2 new cams? Maybe i can try to emulate the settings the next time I try em. I know theres also a strap conversion kit.
Do you mind sharing your Elim settings? What cams are you using, bcos i understand theres actually 4 plus 2 new cams? Maybe i can try to emulate the settings the next time I try em. I know theres also a strap conversion kit.
Destructos
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What I've realised is, once you get your pedals dialed out (balancing of beater height+angle and footboard angle), most pedals should feel similar (to some degree at least) to another.
What I really like about DWs is that, they put ball-bearings in pretty much EVERY moving part there is, even the hinge at the heel plate (so far, yamaha, IC, elims, sonor etc... don't have). What's greater is that, the beater-rotor assembly is bundled with ball-bearings which are resting on the supporting axle with ball-bearings too!!
And like Sonor's equivalently expensive Giant-Step pedals, the tension adjusting part of the spring assembly is also ball-raced.
So for all this over-engineering of smoothness comes at a price.
I don't get the "least durable" complaints though. I had a DW4002 set and they were built like tanks... weighed the part too.
The "least durable" complaints are usually about the IC heel plate hinges and Axis pedals here at Derek Roddy forums.
I have a friend who has a second hand DW9002 and never regretted paying every cent. I doubt you would too.
What I really like about DWs is that, they put ball-bearings in pretty much EVERY moving part there is, even the hinge at the heel plate (so far, yamaha, IC, elims, sonor etc... don't have). What's greater is that, the beater-rotor assembly is bundled with ball-bearings which are resting on the supporting axle with ball-bearings too!!
And like Sonor's equivalently expensive Giant-Step pedals, the tension adjusting part of the spring assembly is also ball-raced.
So for all this over-engineering of smoothness comes at a price.
I don't get the "least durable" complaints though. I had a DW4002 set and they were built like tanks... weighed the part too.
The "least durable" complaints are usually about the IC heel plate hinges and Axis pedals here at Derek Roddy forums.
I have a friend who has a second hand DW9002 and never regretted paying every cent. I doubt you would too.
recently came across the Pacific B.O.A double pedals. wonder if anyone has tried them.... Can you even get these in Singapore?
check them out at http://www.pacificdrums.com/BOA/BOA.htm
check them out at http://www.pacificdrums.com/BOA/BOA.htm
I believe I saw the B.O.A at Music Theme, but you may try asking Ranking as well since they have the same parent company.
All I can say is, don't believe the hype. Try it if you must.
There's also one on eBay, a floor model:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...MEWA:IT&viewitem=&item=120078937042&rd=1&rd=1[/url]
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All I can say is, don't believe the hype. Try it if you must.
There's also one on eBay, a floor model:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...MEWA:IT&viewitem=&item=120078937042&rd=1&rd=1[/url]
kari_convention
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looks nice!!!! wonder if it as good as his big brother dws...
blissuicide
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Its not too shabby, oh hell, its good. Certainly sumwhere along the lines of its elder brothers...
smildrumez
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oh man!...........1.2k for 9000!?
i rather get an axis..lol
it has zero back lash and its very smooth
smoother than 9000.. :lol:
i rather get an axis..lol
it has zero back lash and its very smooth
smoother than 9000.. :lol:
blissuicide
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Smoother than 9000? Haha u gota tink twice brother. U tried on both of them? I own a pair of 9000 and i tink they are way too smooth. Played on the Axis, not as smooth, but it has a great feel.
smildrumez
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u got a point there bro 
mark_yeow
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Guys....there's more to that... this is my dream pedal...specs are shown check it out!
http://www.axispercussion.com/
http://www.axispercussion.com/
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