THE FOOTBALL THREAD Vol 2

frankly speaking milan are comparable to teams like barca, inter and real in europe. domestically they are notorious underachievers.

i'm not trying to be anti man u but maybe u should realise man u's lack of class. credit to them goes for their speed and attacking play, they can beat any team in the epl and annihilate smaller opposition hoping to cause an upset. they are a potent english team. but the english style has never been favoured in european competition. it is rightly so that the best man u player is a winger

true, i wouldnt say manu lack any class, or even arsenal for that matter. But compared to teams like milan, madrid, barca at the top of their game, they just have less class.
But hey! if manu and arsenal can simply score more goals, we re safe from all that european mambo jumbo
 
Arsenal
Subs not used
AC Milan
  • Zeljko Kalac
  • Paolo Maldini
  • Alessandro Nesta
  • Marek Jankulovski 50
  • Massimo Oddo
  • Kakha Kaladze
  • Kaka
  • Clarence Seedorf
  • Massimo Ambrosini
  • Ivan Gattuso
  • Andrea Pirlo
  • Alexandre Pato
Subs not used
  • Valerio Fiori
  • Daniele Bonera
  • Emerson
  • Christian Brocchi
  • Alberto Gilarbino
  • Filippo Inzaghi
Referee
  • Claus Bo Larsen
Match Report


Champions League Round 2 Leg 1

Arsenal Stadium

Wednesday, February 20, 2008, 7.45pm



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Arsenal

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AC Milan

0





By Richard Clarke
It is perhaps ironic that Arsène Wenger described tonight's Champions League Knockout Round first leg with Milan as a "crossroads" for his side.
That's because, in the minds of some, Arsenal's season showed the first real signs of losing its way at the weekend when they were beaten so comprehensively by Manchester United at Old Trafford.
Of course, a quick glance at the Premier League table will give home fans every confidence that Wenger has his side's future mapped out with complete assurance. A five-point gap is the plumpest of cushions at this stage of the season after all.
Most can handle heavy Cup exits at their hands of the fiercest rivals as long as it is for the greater good - the acquisition of a bigger trophy. But now is the time to kick-on in those competitions.
The game is Arsenal's 100th in the Champions League and the holders are a fitting opponent but also they will be the sternest of tests at a time when Arsenal need to get back on course after being hit by a tidal wave of a defeat at the weekend.
The Milanese side are considered to be Europe's old guard while Arsenal just could be its rising young stars. With the first leg pivotal to progress, tonight could be looked back on as not only THE decisive game of the season for the North London side but also a passing point in the life cycle of these two teams.
"It is like that a bit sometimes," said Wenger at Tuesday's press conference. "People cross each other. We hope we're at a crossroads now where the youngsters can show how good they are. I believe they will.
"But it is a cup competition against a very experienced side. What's important is that we play without the handbrake on and go into the match with desire. We have to play free of pressure and I believe we will do that."
Arsenal have Bacary Sagna, Theo Walcott, Emmanuel Adebayor, Mathieu Flamini, Gael Clichy and Denilson either back in the squad or back to full fitness. However Manuel Almunia is still laid low with sickness so Jens Lehmann retains his place.
Milan are likely to have rarely-used, third-choice keeper Valerio Fiori, 38, on duty after Zeljko Kalac followed Dida onto the injury list. When asked about the issue, Milan manager Carlo Ancelotti reportedly said "if we play well enough we won't need a keeper".
"They will need their goalkeeper," smiled Wenger in response. "We've never played at home without putting the opponents' keeper under pressure.
"But to beat Milan you have to be at your best. Can we take any advantage of a weakness in their team? I don't go into the match thinking about that.
"Milan have bought Pato, they have Kaka - they have renewed their team. They also have players like Kaladze and Nesta, as defenders they can still play four or five years at the top level. Pirlo and Gattuso too. They are all experienced, but they are not old.
"Milan said they were an old team last year, but this year they have regenerated their team a bit."
The home fans will be trusting that their manager has had time to regenerate his side since last weekend.
 
WENGER'S VIEW

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Wenger: 'It's a shame a game like that doesn't get a goal'





Arsenal 0-0 AC Milan

Champions League Round 2 Leg 1

Arsenal Stadium

Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 7.45pm






On his view of the game...
"Well, the thoughts are that we played the game we wanted to play and overall we were playing at a high tempo for ninety minutes, we have given a lot. The positives is that we have put them under pressure for nearly a big part in the game, and for the whole forty-five minutes in the second half, and that we didn't concede a goal."
On spurned chances...
"I felt that we didn't take advantage of the chances we created because we were a bit forceful, you know, a bit nervous in the final third, with our final ball in our finishing situations. As well Milan defended with a lot of experience, and they adapted to the situation, thinking 'tonight we will be under pressure and we will have to defend well' - and that is what they did. I feel we had plenty of chances, good headers, Eboue had chances, but overall we were a bit nervous and when we had shots we always didn't test enough the keeper, because most of our shots were in the middle of the goal where the keeper had not a real problem, maybe because we wanted to hit it too hard. But overall we played a fantastic game. It's a shame that a game like that doesn't get a goal, because on a night where everything goes for you I think it finishes 3-2."
On the response to Saturday's FA Cup defeat...
"The spirit was fantastic, you could see that on Saturday the mind was already on this game tonight and we were not affected, we were just wanted maybe... [to] force the decision too much, and we were not relaxed enough in the final third."
On the second leg...
"That promises a very interesting game in the second leg, unfortunately we cannot transfer our pitch to the San Siro, so the pitch will certainly not be of the quality we had tonight. I hope the game will not suffer from it so much. Because I feel we can play at a high tempo for ninety minutes, because I feel that they will have to come out anyway in the second leg, and as well because tonight they didn't create any chances and defensively we were very good."
On the injury to Kolo Toure...
"A calf injury that rules him out for, from what I've seen after the game, for three or four weeks at least. It was a bad movement, a consequence of the African Nations Cup, too much heat in the calf!"
On feeling positve about the return tie...
"Yes, because overall with the experience I have I can say that nil-nil at home is not a bad result, of course I didn't dream of a nil-nil frankly, but overall not to concede a goal is not a bad result at home. "
 
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<H4>Fabregas - We proved we can cope with Milan's qualities</H4>




Arsenal 0-0 AC Milan

Champions League Round 2 Leg 1

Arsenal Stadium

Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 7.45pm






By Richard Clarke
Arsenal may not have got the result they wanted against Milan on Wednesday night but their performance has given Cesc Fabregas every confidence ahead of the second leg at the San Siro.
Arsène Wenger's side bossed the second half of the Champions League Knockout Round tie at Emirates Stadium but could not make it count.
Fabregas led the assault and, though disappointed they could not break through, the 20-year-old was happy with their dominance over the holders. And that is why he is so confident for the second leg.
"Definitely we can go there and do it," he said. "We are a positive side, we are young but, having seen what we have seen tonight, we can cope with their pace, their experience and we can create chances.
"If we can score a goal I think we have a good opportunity to go through. It's very difficult. They have a lot of experience, they know how to play. They defend very well, they are very intelligent and they never play around. If they have to kick it out, they will. It's very difficult but we have to be happy with the way we played tonight.
"We were maybe a little bit [nervous in the final third] but I think overall we played a very good game against a good team.
"We can't forget that we didn't play against an average team. We played against a top side like Milan and even then we played well. We had more opportunities, we played better and had more possession. We did everything right. Unfortunately sometimes in football the difference is you don't put the ball into the back of the net and we didn't do that."
A score draw will be enough in Milan but Arsenal will go there in search of a win. It is a tough ask given that no English side has ever won against AC Milan at the San Siro. But Arsenal have history on their side having achieved the same feat at Real Madrid two years ago and hammered Inter 5-1 at the same stadium a couple of seasons before that.
"I watched that on TV and I remember it," said Fabregas. "But it was five years ago. Things will be different. Milan is Milan.

"But we all want to be involved in the Final again and we will fight for it."
 
Arsenal is one foot out of the Champions League. San Siro is such an intimidating place to go...and Arsenal out you go
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Arsenal is one foot out of the Champions League. San Siro is such an intimidating place to go...and Arsenal out you go
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HMMM ...WELL WHEN WE WENT THERE 3 SEASONS AGO AND won 1- 5 ....

NAHHH...NOT SO INTIMIDATING AFTER ALL

ALL WE NEED IS A SCORE DRAW
 
its cuz alex keep staring at wenger then they go one on one. then man u players interfere in the fight. then arsenal players lazy help wenger. then they both become rivals.


whooo ~
 
The vid clearly shows McClair kicking away at Winterburn to start the whole ruckus..... what would U expect the AFC players to do? Just stand there and watch one of their own get the shit kicked outta him?

Rude Man Nippleboy - clearly shows he jumped and kneed Vieira in the back then has an Oscar moment by pretending to be kicked..... blindbat ref also to blame but what that mofo Rude started it all.... DESERVED WHATEVER HE GOT!

I still say fergie instigates his players against AFC - he knows he's 2nd best to Wenger so thats the only game he know ......
 
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Arsenal

Subs not used

Birmingham City

  • Maik Taylor
  • Martin Taylor
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  • Stephen Kelly
  • David Murphy
  • Liam Ridgewell
  • Damien Johnson
  • James McFadden
  • Sebastian Larsson
  • Mehdi Nafti 66
  • Fabrice Muamba
  • Olivier Kapo
  • Mauro Zarate 59
  • Mikael Forssell
  • Stuart Parnaby 15
Subs not used

  • Colin Doyle
  • Cameron Jerome
Referee

  • Mike Dean (Wirral)

Match Report


Barclays Premier League

St Andrews

Saturday, February 23, 2008, 12.45pm




Birmingham City

2

McFadden 29, 95 (pen)




Arsenal

2

Walcott 50, 55



By Richard Clarke
Arsenal were denied a crucial victory by a highly-debatable injury-time penalty at Birmingham on Saturday in a game overshadowed by a nasty injury to Eduardo.
After only three minutes, the Croatian striker was caught on his left ankle by Martin Taylor. The Birmingham defender was immediately sent off however Eduardo took another nine minutes to leave the pitch. He required extensive treatment and was stretchered off with an oxygen mask strapped to his face. He had barely moved through the entire time. It was later confirmed he had broken his leg.
Understandably, Arsenal struggled to come to terms with their football for the remainder of the first half and went into the break trailing to James McFadden's free-kick.
However the visitors were revitalised after the restart. Keeper Maik Taylor had already made a couple of fine saves before Walcott touched home Emmanuel Adebayor's header in the 49th minute.
Five minutes later the England international robbed Liam Ridgewell, roared into the area and planted a low shot in the corner of the net.
Arsenal might have got another couple after that as Birmingham faded.
However, in the final seconds of added time, Gael Clichy felled Stuart Parnaby and McFadden scored from the spot. The Arsenal players protested the decision and replays suggested the Frenchman had won the ball cleanly.
The point extended Arsenal's lead to six points but Manchester United would be able to claw back three of those when they visited Newcastle United later in the day.
A debatable and disappointing end to a difficult afternoon.
Wenger made three changes from the side that had drawn 0-0 against Milan on Wednesday. Kolo Toure went off with a calf injury just seven minutes into that game so it was no surprise to see Philippe Senderos start.
Elsewhere, Manuel Almunia came in for Jens Lehmann and Walcott replaced the suspended Emmanuel Eboue on the right.
After that draw and the 4-0 drubbing at Manchester United the previous weekend, there was a little pressure on Arsenal. However football is always a fickle master and victory this afternoon would heap the heat onto Manchester United for their visit to St James' Park later the same day.
It was a blustery lunchtime kick-off in the Second City but Arsenal seemingly arrived with intent and, crucially, some of their injured players returning.
But that trend would be reversed within three minutes when Eduardo received the ball in midfield and attempted to skip past Taylor. The Birmingham centre back caught the Croatian on the ankle and was immediately dismissed by referee Mike Dean.
However the bigger issue was Eduardo. Cesc Fabregas was first on the scene and called for urgent attention from the bench. The Arsenal medical staff raced on, soon to be joined by many others. The striker barely moved throughout the nine minutes in which he received treatment on the pitch. He left with concerned applause from the entire crowd ringing in his ears.
The incident affected the game for the rest of the half. Nicklas Bendtner came on for Eduardo and had a couple of tame efforts. Cesc Fabregas fired just over the bar.
Birmingham re-organised by withdrawing Mikael Forssell and leaving McFadden on his own up front. Parnaby replaced the Finn and Stephen Kelly pushed in the centre of the defence.
In the circumstances, the home side were happy to concede possession. Although they did take advantage of their infrequent opportunities to attack, Arsenal were controlling the game.
So it was a surprise to see them take the lead in the 26th minute. Flamini fouled McFadden on the edge of the area and the former Everton striker curled a lovely free-kick into the top corner. Almunia did get a hand on the ball but could only divert it into the top corner of the net.
The goal seemed to restore Birmingham's extra man while Arsenal were far from fluent. But five minutes from the break, Fabregas sent a raking ball over the head of Liam Ridgewell for Adebayor to race through. However his touch was heavy and the ball went way over the bar. A couple of minutes later, Adebayor nudged a header wide.
It was turning into a strange, strange game. For example the assistant referee's board displayed nine minutes of first-half injury time.
During that period, Bendtner's header was booted off the line by Kelly then McFadden went clear only to be put off by Senderos and shoot tamely wide.
At the break Arsenal were a man up but a goal down. They had struggled to respond mentally to Eduardo's injury. It would be an important team-talk for Wenger and, just perhaps, Arsenal's season.
Whatever was said, it seemed to work. In the opening seconds, Bendtner nodded over from a Fabregas corner then the Spaniard forced a flying save from Maik Taylor and finally Hleb's shot was tipped over.
From the corner, Adebayor beat Taylor in the air and Walcott touched home from close range. It was not just a goal but a lifeline.
Gallas raced into the net to get the ball. As he ran back, Adebayor ripped it from his captain's hands and slammed it back on the spot.
Arsenal had rolled their sleeves up.
In the minutes that followed Fabregas forced another save from Taylor and then touched Walcott's ball on to the post.
Arsenal's second was coming. It arrived in emphatic style on 54 minutes when Walcott robbed Ridgewell on the right, raced into the area and thumped low drive past Taylor and into the net.
Walcott had a glimpse of a second half hat-trick but he blazed his effort wide. Adebayor also went close as Arsenal threatened a game-killing third.
Midway through the half, substitute Mauro Zarate's free-kick forced Almunia to punch clear at the near post. But Birmingham's fire was now extinguished.
In the 73rd minute, Adebayor should have got that third when he went clear but Taylor got an excellent touch to divert his effort around the post. Bendtner rolled an effort just past the post as Arsenal seemed to be
cruising home but, deep into injury time, that all changed when Parnaby nipped in as Clichy dawdled.
The Frenchman seemed to win the ball in his subsequent tackle but referee Dean pointed to the spot.
McFadden slammed the ball home and Birmingham had a point the barely deserved.
It was heartbreaking for Arsenal after they had done all the hard work.
But Eduardo's pain was much greater than his team's.
The thoughts of everyone associated with Arsenal Football Club are with him.
 
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Wenger softens Taylor stance




Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has retracted comments calling for Birmingham City defender Martin Taylor to be banned for life following his horror tackle on Eduardo on Saturday.
Taylor was shown a red card in the opening moments of the 2-2 draw at StAndrews after he caught the Gunners striker, who apparently suffered a badly broken leg.
Immediately after the game, in which James McFadden equalised in injury-time, a furious Wenger said: 'This guy should never play football again. What is he doing on the football pitch?'
Blues boss Alex McLeish and former manager Steve Bruce jumped to the defence of the player, who was described as 'distraught', and Wenger has now softened his stance.
'It was a highly emotional afternoon and we were all shocked by the injury to Eduardo,' said Wenger, who expects the Croatian to miss this summer's European Championships.
'On reflection, I feel that my comments about Martin Taylor were excessive. I said what I did immediately after the game in the heat of the moment.'
Arsenal confirmed this evening that Eduardo had undergone surgery on a broken leg.
 
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As a soccer fan, I sympathized with Eduardo and his broken leg. The culprit should be severely dealt with. It was a really bad tackle and should be stopped in football totally. Worst still if Taylor had the ulterior motive to injure Eduardo.
 
As an Arsenal fan, it really saddened me in regards the incident. But honestly, there was no sign of malice in the tackle and it was a one footed tackle. Even the referee have 2nd thoughts on giving the card but as soon as he sees the broken leg, straight red card. I was really hoping they would not show the replay even in youtube coz u really really will feel the pain if u see it in slow motion. But that tackle wasnt as bad as Cisse when he was in liverpool being tackle and got a broken shin as a result few years back. And really hope that this would not end Eduardo carreer, but dissapointed that he not gonna play in Euro 08. Lets pray hard for him to have successful surgery...
 
But that tackle wasnt as bad as Cisse when he was in liverpool being tackle and got a broken shin as a result few years back. surgery...
He broke his leg against Blackburn, then during a friendly before the Euros, he broke the other one against China. Ohhhhh.

Good luck to Eduardo. Shit happens in football, only people I've seen tackle with malice is like Roy Keane.
 
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