Punk Rock
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recklessnick
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punk rock and punk is the same.
GDPunkRock
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Lol.I was following the arguement between recklessnick and yy_fuctup and I just HAD to hit the 'Post Reply' button.
I don't get what's so complicated about differentiating punk music.Punk is just simply, loud, fun music that is stripped down to its' simplest form - guitar,drums and bass. Who cares what is Punk Rock and what is Pop-Punk?Punk is PUNK.
I don't get what's so complicated about differentiating punk music.Punk is just simply, loud, fun music that is stripped down to its' simplest form - guitar,drums and bass. Who cares what is Punk Rock and what is Pop-Punk?Punk is PUNK.
teleplayer
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GD: Is rock and pop very different?
EugeneSmasher
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My definition based on listening to bands from both sides and from different eras, as well as research.
Pop-punk: Blink 182, Busted, etc.
Punk rock: Sex Pistols, Ramones, Misfits, etc.
Someone earlier posted about the difference between pop-punk and punk rock. There's a real difference. Listen to Sex Pistols and then listen to Blink 182, and tell me they're the same...
I don't have any preferences though. I'm more old-school, but there are pop-punk bands I really like, and on the other side there are punk rock bands that to me lack any form of musicality.
Pop-punk: Blink 182, Busted, etc.
Punk rock: Sex Pistols, Ramones, Misfits, etc.
Someone earlier posted about the difference between pop-punk and punk rock. There's a real difference. Listen to Sex Pistols and then listen to Blink 182, and tell me they're the same...
I don't have any preferences though. I'm more old-school, but there are pop-punk bands I really like, and on the other side there are punk rock bands that to me lack any form of musicality.
shinobi
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PunkRockDude
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anione got ani problems wif punkrock? haha
recklessnick
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punk rock is like avril lavinge and simple plan. dont argue, dont poseur
EugeneSmasher
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Plan
http://top40.about.com/od/popmusic101/p/punkpop.htm
And don't anyhow accuse people of being poseurs. Do some research.
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pianomankris
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Musically speaking:
Punk is defined by a few things - the most noticeable being the tempo. Most punk music is above 130bpm (however there are always exceptions).
Hence punk songs are short. They follow pop structure, but due to the tempo, will finish quicker. (short doesn't necessarily mean 'less', as structurally, punk music is just as full as any other style).
Harmony - generally simple. Basic chords. Usually just power chords on the guitar. This is also to do with the tempo. The faster something is, the less complex it needs to be, as the speed keeps the interest as much as/if not more so than the actual harmony itself. Most punk songs will only have a few chords, as this is all that's needed at a high tempo.
Instrumentation - as for rock.
Vocals - generally rebellious/anarchistic (with lots of swearing!). The vocals can be shouted as much as they are sung, and originally in punk were shouted more, as this was more effective for translating the anger/annoyance of the lyrics than actually singing about it.
There are a few more things, but the things stated are traditionally the idiosyncrasies of punk.
Modern bands such as Green Day/Blink/MCR etc wouldn't be considered 'pure' punk, as vocally they are too melodic. Hence they get the 'pop punk' label. Everything about their music is punk, apart from the vocals being very melodic i.e. 'singable'. Hence those bands are the ones who have broke through into the mainstream, as they treat the vocals as they would be treated in writing a pop song i.e. very melodic.
Hope that helps a little.
Punk is defined by a few things - the most noticeable being the tempo. Most punk music is above 130bpm (however there are always exceptions).
Hence punk songs are short. They follow pop structure, but due to the tempo, will finish quicker. (short doesn't necessarily mean 'less', as structurally, punk music is just as full as any other style).
Harmony - generally simple. Basic chords. Usually just power chords on the guitar. This is also to do with the tempo. The faster something is, the less complex it needs to be, as the speed keeps the interest as much as/if not more so than the actual harmony itself. Most punk songs will only have a few chords, as this is all that's needed at a high tempo.
Instrumentation - as for rock.
Vocals - generally rebellious/anarchistic (with lots of swearing!). The vocals can be shouted as much as they are sung, and originally in punk were shouted more, as this was more effective for translating the anger/annoyance of the lyrics than actually singing about it.
There are a few more things, but the things stated are traditionally the idiosyncrasies of punk.
Modern bands such as Green Day/Blink/MCR etc wouldn't be considered 'pure' punk, as vocally they are too melodic. Hence they get the 'pop punk' label. Everything about their music is punk, apart from the vocals being very melodic i.e. 'singable'. Hence those bands are the ones who have broke through into the mainstream, as they treat the vocals as they would be treated in writing a pop song i.e. very melodic.
Hope that helps a little.
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escape-artist
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Eh there's nothing wrong with pop punk right?
I play for a pop punk band, but people generalise us
as a punk rock band (we're nothing close to punk rock btw)
but, it's okay la. Pop punk,punk rock,
as long as we know what we're playing/listening,
it's good already
And Blink 182 & Greenday isn't the only pop punk bands around.
What happened to New Found Glory?!
I play for a pop punk band, but people generalise us
as a punk rock band (we're nothing close to punk rock btw)
but, it's okay la. Pop punk,punk rock,
as long as we know what we're playing/listening,
it's good already
And Blink 182 & Greenday isn't the only pop punk bands around.
What happened to New Found Glory?!
pianomankris
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There's nothing 'wrong' with any style. But it's good to know what it is specifically that defines each style, so you know what to avoid if you don't want to write in a specific style.
And it's good to know what defines each style so you don't just imitate the band you listen to most (common with young bands), but rather, can take the very principles of what it is you like about that specific style, and do your own thing with them.
To show this - follow the guide I wrote in my previous post and try to write a song that doesn't sound punk. This will be difficult! It's when you begin to recognise the actual musical elements in each style that you'll begin to be in control of writing in that style, and will be able to express your musical ideas easier.
Who said otherwise?! Most people probably mention these two bands as they are perhaps the most well-known bands by the general public in that particular genre, so I don't really think people are dismissing other bands by not mentioning them. If every pop punk band was to be mentioned, the list would be vast. Best to stick with a few that are indicative of the style - all that's needed is enough for people to know what you are talking about, rather than a comprehensive list.
fuzztremecho
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"Elvis was way more punk before punk was known as punk."
qoute from a certain Rolling Stone guitarist aka father of Capt Jack Sparrow..
qoute from a certain Rolling Stone guitarist aka father of Capt Jack Sparrow..
GDPunkRock
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2006-2009!!!!
I have the power to revive THREADS!:twisted:
