preamp tube qns

[ciki]

in new to tubes but had been using ehx 12ax7 & sovtek 12ax7lps. recently saw that some are 12ax7wa or ecc803 ecc83 etc. juz wanna know does all the models(ecc83,el34.. blah blah) mades a difference?? wat are the standard models for preamp tubes?? noob here asking qns abt tubes...

 

[lightice]

EL34 are power tubes.

Preamp tubes depends on what amps you are running.
Most have 12AX7s in them.

My standard are just JJ 12AX7s. Consistent I guess.

 

[ciki]

thnx for your reply, but wats the diff. between ecc & 12ax7?? low noise? high gain?? or??

 

[lightice]

Nothing actually, its just a different name for the same thing by different manufacturers.

12AX7 and 12AY7 have tonal differences and are interchangable within a preamp circuit.

 

[leecs]

The E83CC is a 'high quality' of 12AX7

 

[Indigo_blues]

you can do a bit of googling to find the answers... some tubes are actually interchangeable but have different names because Americans and Europeans gave them different names..

 

[lightice]

It should be ECC83, there are a lot of tubes that are interchangable.

The 12A*7s are variants of each other and can be swapped.

 

[ciki]

The E83CC is a 'high quality' of 12AX7

i c..which means i can actually use any of them for preamp...? but do you mean in terms of "high quality" of 12ax7?

 

[lightice]

Actually they are just different names for the same thing.

Quality isn't an issue if you get one from a reliable manufacturer.

Tonal preferences are usually the ones that gravitate users to certain brands for certain tubes.

 

[ciki]

i c i c and it all boils down to trying them out and which 1 i prefer in the end....

 

[lightice]

Well.. yes.

 

[leecs]

It's ok to use a good quality 12ax7 from JJ, Sveltlana, EI, Tungsol, Mullard though they will all sound kinda different depending on how hard they are driven

 

[Zepp3lin]

The E83CC is a 'high quality' of 12AX7

The meaning is not 'High Quality' dah Dey!! I'ts just a term or model number, the American term for 12AX7 is ECC83s. 12AX7 term normally use by the British.

If you wanna High Gain type normally I would use JJs ECC83s or the higher quality type is ECC83sG with the G behind means gold. JJ was originally Tesla rename after they was bought over.
You can use a Mullard 12AX7 in replacement 1 of the better brands in Tubes.
Others maybe Sovtek, Svetlana or the Chinese Tubes.

Chinese tubes are a bit on the trebly side not really a High Gain tubes. Todays Marshall uses Chinese Tubes usually, they rename it as Marshall Tubes but actually the tubes are Chinese tubes.

Anyway it's a matter of taste and preference, it's not weather its good or not good, you have to try and hear it for yourself, but in order to do that it's a bit pricey or whenever you change your Preamp tubes try a different brand and hear it for youtself. If you are a regular user, pre amp tubes can be change maybe about 2 years once depending on the usage, Other Power Tubes is about 1000hours of usage.

 

[gsonique]

The E83CC is a 'high quality' of 12AX7

What ?? Where did you gt that from ??:?

Common Tube Types

Todays Marshall uses Chinese Tubes

So does VHT !! Shuguang 12AX7A
VHT Amplification

 

[MrBukka]

Yeah totally not surprise that huge amp companies such as marshalls or vht uses chinese tubes.....they are cheap and not bad for its price, tone wise i still find them alittle lacking though.....For 12ax7s I highly recommend either Mullards or Tungsols, or if you have the $$$, NOS tubes are always the BOMB!

 

[Gearjunkie]

The E83CC is a 'high quality' of 12AX7

Lol talk about dissemination of misinformation