plz HELP ME WITH MODES

[mekz]

geeezz i get so confused with modes i get a teacher but i still cant understand modes..currently i stop my lesson..but theres this one thing that i really wanna learn ..its MODES plz can somebody explain it clearly to me!! n plz plz plz help me !!


Thx
Mekz

 

[NickLayton]

One post won't answer all your questions. You'll have to get your hands a bit dirty and do some work to really understand the modes.
But, I'll start with a question:

Do you understand that the 6 other major scale modes(besides Ionian/major) are really just inversions of the Ionian scale?

 

[bluepowder]

I would suggest that you record a root note...say C and then just play out all the modes in C - C ionian,C dorian etcetc...to get a feel of the difference in sound....

then if u would like learn as much as u can online,there is enough information on how to teach yourself the modes,i would recommend you try the frank gambale instructional...modes made easier or improvisation....

i think they both cover modes.... :lol:

 

[NickLayton]

The best video I have seen on modes is Gambale's-- Modes, No More Mystery

 

[mekz]

may i know where to find those video?? umm the inversion mean?? is it the dorian,phrygian,lydian,.......etc,etc??? i'd read a few modes lesson but i still dun get it BLEAH!!! im really stuck in this thing .. plz help me hhahah :lol:

 

[NickLayton]

I would think you could find any products or info on modes by doing a google search. Good luck and let us know how it goes!

 

[mekz]

the thing that im wondering about is about how to apply modes in our song??
i mean if we play in C muz we play the 7 modes in C?? like C ionian,Dorian n .....etc

or another thing is C ionian,D dorian, E phrygian??? bleah i dun undastand about that

 

[strats]

Modes basically go in order. Ionian->Dorian->Phygrian->Lydian->Mixo->Aeolian->Locrian.

all modes are basically inversions of the Ionian mode.let's take C Ionian, the notes would be:C,D,E,F,G,A,B. now, D Dorian would be the same as C Ionian BUT is starts with D, thus the order of notes are,E,F,G,A,B,C. same goes E Phygrian,F Lydian,G Mixo, A Aeolian, B Locrian.

 

[mekz]

ok thx .. i undastand that clearly..now but another thing is on how to apply modes .. i read it sumwhere that theres 2 way of applying modes.. detriative n parallel.. i dun quite get it..


C ionian, D dorian, E phrygian ...etc (all of them = the breaking down of C ionian??) right??

But wad about the C ionian, Cdorian , Cphrygian ...etc
which way to apply?? hahaha
as for the 1st one.. we are juz applying Cmajor scale..
confused.. but thx though i undastand sumthing

 

[ShredCow]

If you have READ and don't get it.

Get a teacher.

If your teacher doesn't seem to help.

Get ANOTHER teacher.


These kind of questions are information intensive. Do yourself a favour, and spare us the typing.

 

[bluepowder]

yep..shred's right...I have read some of the best articles available on modes,luckily I was able to figure out what they were saying...so GOOGLE it...

If u still dont understand get a teacher...

 

[ZackUidl]

HAving a teacher that is not a hack will help out with everything. Get one.

 

[bluepowder]

wow exactly one month later...

 

[p4zl]

hmm.. hope some 1 can ans my qn..

So lets say.. how sld I improvise on a C key..

C ionian, Cdorian , Cphrygian ...etc
or
C ionian,D dorian, E phrygian.. etc?

thanks

 

[thor666]

C ionian, Cdorian , Cphrygian ... etc. Some modes sound better on some chords - eg One mode may sound better on a minor7 than a maj7. You can play a mode over a chord to find out.

Cheers.

 

[guitarman78]

The principal of applying modes is not just the scale ... it's the Chord progression ... You can play a Single C5 and play any modes you want becasue the Chord Quality is open to any moods .... But if you play a progression .... it's a different story.

Progression 1: |Am7 | D9 |: |

You can use an A Aeolian or A Dorian for this. This is because A can be the 6th of C .... or the 2nd Chord of G .... which both includes both the chords.

Progression 2: |Am7 | C Gm|: |

For this you can use A Phrygian .... because it's the the third of F.


Progression 3: |A | G | : |

You can use A maj for A chord ... when it hits G, you have to use A MixoLydian ... why? coz A mixo is fifth of D. And this progression has a D key.

Progression 4: | A | A | B | B | : |

Give it a bit more space .... just run your A lydian thru this ... because it really is an E Ionian. A and B are from E.

Progression 5: |Am7(b5) | E7(#5)| Gm7 | : |

Guess what this is ... on the 7th degree.

 

[mekz]

thx man.. i still dun undastand.. but ill read it agen n agen n agen.. ne wya ive read it a few times but i juz dun get it.. perhaps im slow hahaha. but well i gonna learn it till i undastand.. e way u explain is v specific i kinda getting it alil ..thx ne way

 

[thor666]

You probably need a teacher to guide you then. Modes are not exactly that easily to understand just by reading.