http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkV4jgs6K9s
OpenStage is a platform for up and coming musicians to showcase their talents. Check out more at http://www.openstage.tv
Above is fellow SOFTie - Amanda Tee, performing her original composition.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkV4jgs6K9s
OpenStage is a platform for up and coming musicians to showcase their talents. Check out more at http://www.openstage.tv
Above is fellow SOFTie - Amanda Tee, performing her original composition.
MadWerewolfBoy
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totally awesome... go amanda! :twisted: cj power!
btw, what's that ugly thing on the screen behind over there? haha they should change the backgroud to some nice wall paper during performances!
btw, what's that ugly thing on the screen behind over there? haha they should change the backgroud to some nice wall paper during performances!
alvinthedrummer
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But her pitch was flat half the time! Great feel tho, but need to work on her pitching.
Giantballz
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I LOVED IT!! Made me smile. Amanda has improved alot indeed! 
If I ever walk by any place and see this , I would stop by for a drink. 
If I ever walk by any place and see this , I would stop by for a drink.
ya, if anyone interested to showcase their talents at OpenStage, do contact the organiser at http://www.openstage.tv
Whoa, I didn't know there was a thread on this! Slow I am.
Thanks for the comments, guys! Somehow I can't ever get this song right live nowadays, kinda lost the feeling that came along with it (played it too much, maybe?) Been trying to make little changes to it to get the mood back.
But it's nice to know you guys still enjoy it
alvinthedrummer: Thanks for pointing it out, I can't really tell but it's probably when it goes to the high parts right? My voice has moods on whether it feels like reaching it. -_- Will work on that!
If there's anymore stuff anyone wants to comment on, please do!
Thanks for the comments, guys! Somehow I can't ever get this song right live nowadays, kinda lost the feeling that came along with it (played it too much, maybe?) Been trying to make little changes to it to get the mood back.
But it's nice to know you guys still enjoy it
alvinthedrummer: Thanks for pointing it out, I can't really tell but it's probably when it goes to the high parts right? My voice has moods on whether it feels like reaching it. -_- Will work on that!
If there's anymore stuff anyone wants to comment on, please do!
cbr400rrr
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hahaha..is she singing or reading the lyrics???is not only the pitch but the way she sing...thats the difference between real singers and ppl who sings for leisure....for karoake session is ok....not professionally...but the song composition is good..is not only feel...technique of singing should be there..or else anyone could be a singer singing like that
(cbr400rrr, what exactly do you mean by "technique of singer" and "the way she sing"?)
i actually thought that she sang the song with feeling/expression, and i thought some of the flat-ish notes were part of her style (e.g. when she sings the word "save" as A-flat rather than A).
hee, and i like the way she has tori amos influences in her style without them being overt (which actually, come to think of it, includes stuff like flat-ing certain notes like that, as well as that kind of rise and fall in dynamics). imo, i'd take expression over pitch-perfect delivery any day, if i had to choose between the two. (but yea, i guess some people wouldn't.) and for some genres of music, styles of expression consist of -not- having pitch-perfect delivery for all the notes in the song, to make it sound more conversational/personal/speechlike.
i've been listening to okkervil river and destroyer, and both singers have that sort of speechlike quality to their singing precisely because they don't try to sing in pitch for every single note. and it works for them, not against them; lends their singing a more distinctive character.
so, mm, yah, for what it's worth, i liked it. hehe.
i actually thought that she sang the song with feeling/expression, and i thought some of the flat-ish notes were part of her style (e.g. when she sings the word "save" as A-flat rather than A).
hee, and i like the way she has tori amos influences in her style without them being overt (which actually, come to think of it, includes stuff like flat-ing certain notes like that, as well as that kind of rise and fall in dynamics). imo, i'd take expression over pitch-perfect delivery any day, if i had to choose between the two. (but yea, i guess some people wouldn't.) and for some genres of music, styles of expression consist of -not- having pitch-perfect delivery for all the notes in the song, to make it sound more conversational/personal/speechlike.
i've been listening to okkervil river and destroyer, and both singers have that sort of speechlike quality to their singing precisely because they don't try to sing in pitch for every single note. and it works for them, not against them; lends their singing a more distinctive character.
so, mm, yah, for what it's worth, i liked it. hehe.
cbr400rrr
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maybe what you said is true....nowadays singer who sings most of the time out of pitch kind of tune make it to success including those singers who uses a lot of falsetto voice to reach higher notes(actually they cant sing high pitch tunes)...to me real singers that could set a good example to good singing technique...eg,celine dion,alicia keys,mariah carey,whitney houston,beyonce...christina aguilllera,,,etc....that is why those singers singing like the style you said wont be in the same league of those i mention..cant even be in the american idol standard...do you think i should take vocal lesson from Oasis?Blur?or other alternative band to learn real vocal lesson?hahhaha i dont think so..but still there are ppl who like that kind of singing..maybe unique in its own way...but to many are doing the same thing..cause its easier to sing like that...sorry for being honest
cbr400rrr, you are right to say the singing style is different. just like how the singers you mentioned is different from say sarah brightman.
i like amanda for the fact that she continues to work on her songwriting.
amanda will continue to improve over time. it will be interesting to see her back by a proper band. this way, the song will be fuller and she can concentrate on singing/performing too.
* hint hint
i like amanda for the fact that she continues to work on her songwriting.
amanda will continue to improve over time. it will be interesting to see her back by a proper band. this way, the song will be fuller and she can concentrate on singing/performing too.
* hint hint
what the...
"nowadays singer who sings most of the time out of pitch kind of tune make it to success including those singers who uses a lot of falsetto voice to reach higher notes(actually they cant sing high pitch tunes)...to me real singers that could set a good example to good singing technique...eg,celine"
well, actually, dude, its a stylistic thing. its not that you can't REACH the high notes. its pop, not the opera.
i've been following this for a while, and i cannot tahan anymore.
music is not a race.
music is not a competition.
its not about who can reach the highest note, etc.
music is about expression. i am a freaking noob and i don't know much about singing, but singers CHOOSE CONSCIOUSLY how to sing the song a certain way. Especially in the case of Amanda, I think you need to give her some respect for what she's doing. She wrote the song, she is singing it the way she is, by CONSCIOUS choice, not by limitations of her voice. Dont' tell her how to sing HER song.
Celine Dion used falsetto too for her Titanic hit, My Love will go on (at the pre-epic parts. god how i HATE that song. shudder.) In fact, her voice is extremely annoying to many people. She did a duet with BeeGees, and sounded almost like the lead singer of BeeGees. BeeGees also used a lot of falsetto. Did they do it because they can't sing? I don't think so. Its a CONSCIOUS choice of the group to decide to stick to their sound and sell it to the masses ANYWAY, even if they didn't sound like the way..uhm...men should sound.
Can you imagine if everyone sounds like Kelly Clarkson?! She's fantastic, but come on, how many Carrie Underwoods do we need? Maybe singapore needs one, but only for the sake of proving a point. You seem to think that AI is the holy grail. I think if you read the reviews from US, you'll know what they're saying..."I peaked at AI when I was 20, now I'm just the dude in the bar drinking beer with no gigs, not even after Simon said I belong in a lounge."
These are what I can pasta-singers. No flavour. They are good staple food, but seriously, pasta EVERYDAY?! Pasta without SAUCE?!
People are such pasta sometimes too. (yes i make a funny.)
I think identity is the key to being a successful singer/artistes, not range. Mariah Carey has an identity. Whitney Housten has an identity. Bright eyes, the PITCHEST singer EVER, has an identity. He is making big bucks, and is hailed as the greatest new talent to emerge in recent years in terms of style and songcraft. Sometimes the most technically advanced singers end up being Backup vocalists, reading scores and harmonising, not leading!
Which do you think people will listen to? Something that relates to their life, something that touches them, something that emotes, or something that is pure vocal calistenics? You can listen to Panini for calistenics. Trained singers. Pitch perfect, just by reading the score, can sing. When you said real vocal lessons, you are referring to this, classical training. All other vocal training is classified as Pop Vocal.
To reiterate, true, music requires some proper education. But this is a singer/songwriter genre. The talent lies in the fact that she WROTE a song. (Bob Dylan writes fantastic but sounds like shit IMO). Maybe you think only Mariah Carey clones deserve to be showcased on soft. But if I see that, I'll just go, Wah, high notes. Personally I don't feel anything when I listen to her songs. Save when she starts whistling. Then I feel some pain in my ears, somewhere deep in my head.
Alright, I'll not rant anymore.
Just...give the girl a break.
Amanda, you kick ass. Get your groove back, girl!
PS. She is usually 75% pitch accurate. I think this is just a fluke on the day of the performance.
Maybe James should feature a "Singer's Special" where he showcases powerhouse vocals. Like Melinda or is it Belinda, from Singapore Idol.
"nowadays singer who sings most of the time out of pitch kind of tune make it to success including those singers who uses a lot of falsetto voice to reach higher notes(actually they cant sing high pitch tunes)...to me real singers that could set a good example to good singing technique...eg,celine"
well, actually, dude, its a stylistic thing. its not that you can't REACH the high notes. its pop, not the opera.
i've been following this for a while, and i cannot tahan anymore.
music is not a race.
music is not a competition.
its not about who can reach the highest note, etc.
music is about expression. i am a freaking noob and i don't know much about singing, but singers CHOOSE CONSCIOUSLY how to sing the song a certain way. Especially in the case of Amanda, I think you need to give her some respect for what she's doing. She wrote the song, she is singing it the way she is, by CONSCIOUS choice, not by limitations of her voice. Dont' tell her how to sing HER song.
Celine Dion used falsetto too for her Titanic hit, My Love will go on (at the pre-epic parts. god how i HATE that song. shudder.) In fact, her voice is extremely annoying to many people. She did a duet with BeeGees, and sounded almost like the lead singer of BeeGees. BeeGees also used a lot of falsetto. Did they do it because they can't sing? I don't think so. Its a CONSCIOUS choice of the group to decide to stick to their sound and sell it to the masses ANYWAY, even if they didn't sound like the way..uhm...men should sound.
Can you imagine if everyone sounds like Kelly Clarkson?! She's fantastic, but come on, how many Carrie Underwoods do we need? Maybe singapore needs one, but only for the sake of proving a point. You seem to think that AI is the holy grail. I think if you read the reviews from US, you'll know what they're saying..."I peaked at AI when I was 20, now I'm just the dude in the bar drinking beer with no gigs, not even after Simon said I belong in a lounge."
These are what I can pasta-singers. No flavour. They are good staple food, but seriously, pasta EVERYDAY?! Pasta without SAUCE?!
People are such pasta sometimes too. (yes i make a funny.)
I think identity is the key to being a successful singer/artistes, not range. Mariah Carey has an identity. Whitney Housten has an identity. Bright eyes, the PITCHEST singer EVER, has an identity. He is making big bucks, and is hailed as the greatest new talent to emerge in recent years in terms of style and songcraft. Sometimes the most technically advanced singers end up being Backup vocalists, reading scores and harmonising, not leading!
Which do you think people will listen to? Something that relates to their life, something that touches them, something that emotes, or something that is pure vocal calistenics? You can listen to Panini for calistenics. Trained singers. Pitch perfect, just by reading the score, can sing. When you said real vocal lessons, you are referring to this, classical training. All other vocal training is classified as Pop Vocal.
To reiterate, true, music requires some proper education. But this is a singer/songwriter genre. The talent lies in the fact that she WROTE a song. (Bob Dylan writes fantastic but sounds like shit IMO). Maybe you think only Mariah Carey clones deserve to be showcased on soft. But if I see that, I'll just go, Wah, high notes. Personally I don't feel anything when I listen to her songs. Save when she starts whistling. Then I feel some pain in my ears, somewhere deep in my head.
Alright, I'll not rant anymore.
Just...give the girl a break.
Amanda, you kick ass. Get your groove back, girl!
PS. She is usually 75% pitch accurate. I think this is just a fluke on the day of the performance.
Maybe James should feature a "Singer's Special" where he showcases powerhouse vocals. Like Melinda or is it Belinda, from Singapore Idol.
visa
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if a songwriter can touch me personally, emotionally, and make me really "get" the message that he or she is trying to put accross, i'm hooked.
write me a song that touches me deeper, then feel free to criticize all you want.
i don't give a crap how many octaves your vocal range spans or how accurate your pitching is. you can have perfect pitching and still not have anybody give a damn about you.
write me a song that touches me deeper, then feel free to criticize all you want.
i don't give a crap how many octaves your vocal range spans or how accurate your pitching is. you can have perfect pitching and still not have anybody give a damn about you.
cbr400rrr
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like i said....singing like that doesnt really prove a true vocal capabilities to me...its more about songwriting then and feel....nothing much...spore good newbies like olinda...taufik...etc..those are good vocals to me...not amanda kind of vocal...like i said..too many ppl are singing like that nowadays cause its easy...right?no need formal vocal training..just basic guitar knowdledge and as long as you can sing in tune...celine dion falsetto is done in a tasteful way(not very obvious)blend nice with her normal singing voice...like some others which has falsetto sounds like amateur kind of tone....you can hear the difference...for bee gees..thats their trademark..they started in long time before its a trend...hahhaha..my opinion for being a good vocalist...
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