noteworthy drum chops

[plainsman]

hi all again =)

my post tonight is as above, on any noteworthy drumming you guys just simply love and want to share with the rest of softies/drummers here. let me start the ball rolling with a favourite drum chop of mine.

To make things a little easier, I have included some format of posting so it helps softies locate the chop easier:

Song: Oasis - Don't Look Back In Anger
Drummer: Alan White
Noteworthy chop(s):
#1 - 2:04 - short roll involving 3 pairs of double strokes on left hand
download #1 here
#2 - 3:37 - triplet-based roll
download #2 here

Why you like it:

simple, elegant stuff. the double strokes eases into you, not "in your face". alan white utilises classic grip to play smooth left hand ghost notes and double strokes throughout the song. the triplet roll is very mellow, it swings to and fro rather than fall on the dot metronomically, and it works for this song because it complements the rest of the music.


cheers and happy "chopping"!!!


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[Vaiyen]

used to listen to oasis a lot. back then, I couldn't care less abt technicalities, heh.

 

[plainsman]

any contributors?? pls don't hesitate to share be it swing, fusion, latin, jazz, metal, progressive, rock, 70s etc ..... cheers!!

 

[yosh]

chops means spd and dexterity right?

You know usually after playing fast beats on the high-hat for too long u get difficulty breaking into a fast roll.. Esp like art of life when its like 180 bpm
and u have been playing for 10 mins and u are about to break into a 16th or 16th triplet roll.. I give yoshiki credit for playing with his wrists entirely.. seldom see him use fingers.. In fact i am starting to suspect if he can play doubles...

Yoshiki on Art of life

http://s33.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=17L224IEZ0SV63J9E6DBYH7QNR

think many people wont like it.. the usual yoshiki-is-a-sissy-there-are-many-better-drummers-out-there-get-out-of-your-fanboy-mentalism feedbacks..

 

[blurred]

stanton moore-sprung monkey modern drummer cd thingy
abt everything from zigaboo mondeliste, he's from the band the meters
josh freese perfect circle- mer de noms
al green booker t and the mgs-green onionssss baby
herlin ernest- he's on alot of Dr john albums, new orleans blues, funk & latin genre
abe loboriel jr- man his drumming on vanessa carlton's album i likeeeee babyyyy
pete "pistol" allen, uriel jones, benny benjamin- funk bros from motown
gene krupa- sing sing sing
steve gadd- 50 ways to leave ur lover

i love alot of the new orleans drummers, like johnny vidacovich and stanton moore, zigabooo, herman ernest
u funk drummers need to check out second line new orleans drumming.

 

[plainsman]

yosh,

^5 for the willingness to share something you like, even though you're doubtful of whether people will accept it or not.

my take on yoshiki's drumming is, with his background in piano he probably approached drumming similarly... which is to turn on the metronome and practice for hours.. the drum parts he comes up with can be somewhat monotonous but they are almost metronomic in its time-keeping, always very even and smooth whether its a product of his technique or how he EQ/mix his sound.

he doesn't really use double strokes, perhaps is because during X formative years he cut his teeth in LA, which had a thriving glam metal/big hair rock scene (skid row, motley crue etc) and their approach to drumming is more of laying a smooth beat without so much emphasis on technical stuff. that is not to say that x drumming is groovy in the likes of r&b or funk influences, but rather.. it has a kind of infectious feeling that does keep rolling on and on.. if u listen to some motley crue songs you'll probably catch on a little of what i'm trying to say

sometimes i tend to refer to it (not without potential misunderstandings) as white man or yellow man trying to groove... its not quite "there" that sorta thing. put it this way, its much easier to try and sound like yoshiki than dave garibaldi (tower of power) but yoshiki was trying to do popular music in the late 80s and 90s that was very digestible, and with his take on easily digestible melodies crafted from his background in classical music... the drumming accompaniment suits its purpose very well.. giving its fans the feeling that yoshiki is a 'damn good drummer'

u'll never be able to find a definitive answer to whether yoshiki is really a good drummer or not... that is more a matter of opinion than a question of fact. but can he keep time for a band? definitely. can he come up with stuff that impressed audiences for x's time? yes. if you go along those lines, i would say he succeeded, and gained the masses acceptance of him being a good drummer in that sense.

 

[doublestrokesg]

Song: If I Ain't Got You (Performance from the 2005 Grammys)
Drummer: Paul John Jnr.
Noteworthy Chop: Triplet flams towards the end of the song.

Why I Like it:

It really suited that particular situation, and thus complimented the climaxing of the song towards the end. Besides, I like Black singers/musicians in general... So rich in feel and groove...

 

[chewy]

The late Jeff Porcaro in "When A Man Loves A Woman" by Michael Bolton. Check out his fill in the break of the song leading into the chorus again. And also his groove during the whole song is impeccable. Groovilicious.

 

[yosh]

well said alfe..

anyway so many drummers out there.. all depend on taste ...

 

[Funkifized]

http://www.keithcronin.com/fromhell.html

that's all you need for now. LOL.

 

[vx02]

i think i like ngudu chancler's cross sticking on that bodyguard song. the one that goes "iii will alwayyyyss loveee youu". haha really nice fat sound. it fits the song reall well if you ask me :lol:

 

[doublestrokesg]

Haha, love that song man! Reminds me of my NS days... Whole barrack will tune in to Class 95 and burst into song together with Whitney Houston! Hehe...

 

[vx02]

hahha. will look forward to that in ns. lol. though i'm quite sure whitney houston'll be replaced by some idiot la. hahah.. okay this is so off tangent.

 

[plainsman]

something to start the week off :lol:

Song: Mr. Big - Take Cover
Drummer: Pat Torpey
Noteworthy chop(s):
3:12 - Drum solo adapted from groove with floor tom parts moved to ride cymbal + bell
download here

Why you like it: Groovy!!! big hearty drumming from pat torpey =D~


keep 'em coming!!!

 

[ahpek1]

This is one of my favourite. Used to play this song alot in the early 80s. Simple rock groove and power fills.

Band: DIO
Drummer: Vinny Appice
Song: Holy Diver, Don't Talk to Strangers, Stand Up And Shout

http://wide-line.com/en/album/3691/Holy-Diver

 

[pharrell]

wat are drum chops really means??isit like some sort of hand technique??

 

[nkf31]

if i'm not wrong, chops are basically patterns, that can be used as fills.

 

[TequilaSunrise]

Err... I guess I'll take a shot at something here :X

1)----------------------------------------------------------------
Song: Love is only a Feeling
By: The Darkness
Drummer: (I forgot his name)

Part: Just after first chorus, fill starts at about 01:24

Why I like it: It was pretty much the first drum fill that I got excited over and spent hours experimenting/playing around with the drum kit to try and get the same 'fill' in.


2)----------------------------------------------------------------
Song: Home Sweet Home
By: Motley Crue
Drummer: Tommy Lee

Part: After Chorus, starts at about 01:03

Why I like it: Sounds pretty nice to me. Fat and nice.

 

[darkcrisp]

One of my favourite drum intros of all time.

Dave Matthews Band
Album: Crash
Song: #41
Drummer: Carter Beauford

The hi-hat work, the accents, and just the kick and splashes to flavour the phrase changes. Wow.

But man, so many of DMB's tracks have killer chops from carter beauford, and they are moreoever so understated in application. Magic.

 

[blurred]

song: white discussion
band: Live
drummer: chad gracey

part: just the whole song. love the 16th note rhythm. you dun see many 16th note grooves on a rock album.

song:sprung moneky
band garage a tois
drummer" stanton moore

part: it wasjust sooo funky.