++ Newbie starting out ++

Yunalesca

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Hi dear people of the forum,

Recently I have been getting myself interested in setting up a simple home DAW, main aim as to experiment with music-making from home during my free-time.

But as a matter of fact, I have to confess that I am a totally, really really realllly clueless newbie in the making. Despite my numerous readups from various sites from the web, and books, I can still hardly understand the techie terms and jargons by which were used, let alone the whole technology and process by which the setup and recording works. The best that I could managed until now is picking up gears, brands and software names from here and there. (Shure, AKG, Reason, FL Studio etc etc) :oops:
Till now, I still can't figure out what is the difference between the EMU-0404 PCI, and the EMU-0404 USB. :oops: :oops:

Hence I really, really hope the experts here can help me out here. It really took me some time thinking, and many a moments of hesitations, before I decided to post. I clearly understand that it is not the obligation of anyone here to spend their precious time reading and answering my thread (of course, since all of us have a life out there), hence it is greatly appreciated that anyone is willing to help!
 
hi there

maybe you could let us know alittle more about

1. what is your music background
2. what do you want to record
3. what is your budget
 
Hi soft,

Many thanks for your reply. I also think it might be more proper for me to do an intro of my background first, to start things off. =) I will try to add more details so as to give you a better idea of what I know. So I beg for you and the others to bear with the lengthiness.

I had learn electone from Yamaha when I was younger, until grade 8b.
So I can read little of the simpler scores and play a little keyboard. But to be exact, I do not think I have sufficient knowledge on music theory itself yet.

Other than that I did undergo some vocal training before, and obtained up to grade 7 with distinction for LCM's (London College of Music) pop vocal performance exam. Here is the URL where you can hear 2 songs which I had on this online KTV thingy (yes, I am a self-admitted ktv junkie *sweat*)
http://tw.kara24h.com/blog/blog_kara_list_edit.asp?cust_no=92591
(IE only, BIG5)

Software wise, I had previous short-lived encounters with Soundforge, Cakewalk, and Acid back during my study days. That's how I get to know of the existence of MIDI, and the difference between MIDI and wav (laffs).
But that's about all =/

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At this current stage, I do not know what to expect out of my recordings, for my lack of knowledge. But I try not to be too vague. Hence do correct me, if I had gone way out of my expectations; or should I need to be guided to a better path.
Since I am still very new to this area, I thought I could start with some simple gears, so that I can understand the process better, and move on from there. But as simple as it is, I do hope I can get some decent sounds from the end product (No horrible synthetic sounds, should natural sounding instruments be used, quality though can be compromised)

In the short term, I hope to be able to do some remixes, mainly game OST remixes, though I do not rule out others.
Because one of my aim is to be able to submit to the online video game remixing communities like OCR.

Eventually in the long run, I hope to try out my hands, and be able to compose/arrange originals, something like Yasunori Mitsuda's/Yoko Kanno's work; celtic, new-age, or similiar.
And also your everyday pop/rock/mainstream genres.
Having some vocal background, I would probably do vocal recordings as I progress, to be used for the remixes or originals.

Some samples from Yasunori Mitsuda's site over here:
Sailing to the World - Sailing to the World
Kirite - Tsugunai
Other similiar examples (right-click save):
Kaoru Wada - Record of Lodoss War - Prologue
ORIGA - Mizu no Madoromi

Pls do inform me if the links are not proper, and ought to be removed or handled in other ways.
I apologize in advance if things do not seem proper.
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Budget wise... Well that depends I think. Maybe from $500 to max ard 2k. I really hope to get everything under 1k if possible. I dun mind spending more, but I hope the things that I would acquire will be fully justified for. A bad scenario will be, getting a super top-notch (and exp) equipment, only to discover it is too complicated for me to handle at the moment; or I do not have the need for all the sophisicated features it has, thus under-utilizing it. (Has occured to me too many times =/)
I am thinking, something good would be a simple startup, which can be further expanded according to my needs with add-ons later. veralThen again I thought the experts over here might have a better idea of what I really need, hence I hope you guys can kindly feed me some inputs on this. =)

Instrumental parts would probably be done mainly via MIDI/sampling...
that is, if I finally figured out how to get them to work. **again, NEWBIE ALERT**
I can really use some help for someone to knock the sense into me, of how exactly do sampling/MIDI function, the architect of the whole setup, why do I need this and that, and etc.

What I want to archieve now for the moment is to be able to handle everything with a DAW. The only "live" recording I would do for now, would probably only be vocal stuff. Currently I already own the following below.

1. Roland E-14 Keyboard (not connected to PC)
2. Yamaha YDP-101 Piano (not connected to PC)
3. Creative Prodikeys (USB)
4. Shure SM48s. (Plugin via normal mic-in port on my onboard soundcard)
5. PC (specs unclear, custom setup ard 2 years ago, for 3D and design purposes. Shall update with exact stats again if needed)
6. Altec lansing speakers 5.1 (using only 2 speakers now though)
7. A few headphones (Though I doubt they will be good for monitoring, will update again)

Probably one would notice that I am missing the mention of a soundcard, which I dun have! *insertscreams*
Currently I am using the onboard soundcard from my mobo. Hence there's no way of hooking up my roland/piano to the PC.
Which leads me to the question, what's the difference between the 'PCI EMU0404' and the 'EMU0404 USB', which is a MIDI interface?

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Thank you for bearing this incredulously lengthy entry!
 
Just curious about this.

On a sidenote, I had heard from some that it will be easier to make electric/techno/dance tracks fairly easier on PC (as compared to other genres), as nearly all the sounds are/will be manipulated in the process.
But what will the difference in gears and softwares that I will need be, between this genre, and the earlier one I mentioned above?

Dance/Electric/Techno references (right-click save):
Shoji Meguro - Persona 3 - Burn My Dread (Beginning - 1:00, the electric/techno part)
Utada Hikaru - Kingdom Hearts - Hikari (PlanetB remix)

Many thanks in advance!
Oh and also to those who are PM me too~ You guys know who you are =)
 
1. computer (what you have should be good enough)
2. keyboard (Roland E14, it has MIDI)
3. soundcard ( http://www.presonus.com/firebox.html )
4. microphone ( http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/AT2020/ )

for a start, you can try to use the sounds from your keyboard first. get yourself familar with "sequencing".

you will connect your keyboard to the computer via the soundcard's midi interface. whatever you play on the keyboard, the performance will be 'recorded' into the computer.

using a sequencer software, you will be able to record the different parts in your song arrangement - drums, bass, strings, guitar ...

http://www.presonus.com/images/Cubasesessionbig.jpg

http://www.presonus.com/images/FIREBOXhookup.jpg



* difference between the EMU-0404 PCI, and the EMU-0404 USB?
PCI - usually for desktop
USB - both desktop and notebook
 
I agree with soft. Try out the sounds in your Roland first. As your intent is to eventually write music for games and similar genre, you need to focus on sequencing and writing skills. Lots of people tend to focus on the tools (hardware etc), which is unfortunate. You can spend lots of money on expensive gears, but as long as your skills is limited, the music will be mediocre.

My suggestion is to get a license-free sequencing program, try to sequence a game track using only your Roland E-14 sounds. Post it in SOFT and we can see how to progress from there.

The last thing you want, as you said, is to invest in gears which end up as white elephants.
 
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