Need Help To Install Killswitch On Tele

Phanto

Phanto

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okay. i want a killswitch installed on my telecaster, but what needs to be done? like i want to use a On/On switch, but must major drilling be done to create another cavity for the wiring? or.... 0.o any pros here that have any clue? i was like reading this :
http://www.bingeandgrab.com/bucket_tech.html

erm also, is it possible to install a killswitch function into a 5 way selector, thats if i modify my 3 way to a 5 way, can one of the settings be a killswitch?
 
What do you mean by On/On switch?

You want a killswitch which will let sound through when you release and kill when you activate and hold (momentary)

or

a killswitch which will kill when you activate, and let sound through when you activate again (latching)?

and

You want a toggle version (matt bellemy), or a button version (buckethead).

and

Yes, it's possible to wire a 5 way selector such that one of the settings is a kill.
 
If you are going to put it into your 5-way, you find it difficult to do the rapid kill rhythms.

Best = a button or those 3-way toggle (pup selector on gibsons)
 
toggle switch you'll definetely need space for it both in the back and on the front of your guitar.

Then there are a few methods again:
1. 2 position toggle
1.1 momentary
1.2 latched

2. 3 position toggle
2.1 only middle position kills
2.2 only one of the side positions kills
2.3 middle position and one of the side position kills

Matt bellemy uses the 2.1, the idea is that if you accidently flick the switch while strumming, it's less likely to kill, as it would probably lie on the other position instead of mid.

Traditional LP killswitching is more like 2.2, where they turn the volume down on one pickup and switch between that pickup and the one that isn't turned down.
 
omg.
like blur here.

i just want a simple 2 way switch, off and on killswitch.
that means like off killswitch connected in parallel to pups (eh maybe cannot later like it will join the sound, so like connect to the flipswitch so it just allows for circutry flow?)to allow for regular pup switching and then when flipped to on killswitch it kills of the sound totally.by like allowing the current to flow not to pups anymore? but like redirecting it away?

and i can decide where to put the toggle switch right? like just drill.
 
No worries about how to connect it dude, we'll help you with that later. If you are curious though, all you need is 2 wires to the guitar's output live and ground. The switch connects these 2, which shorts live to ground and kills the signal.

For now it's more about how you want it to work and where you want to place it.

Ok so 2 way like I said, there's momentary and there's latching. The momentary type when you press down on it, it will kill, then when you let go, the switch will bounce back. Latching means you'll have to toggle it up and down by yourself physically.

Now is where you want to place it. If you want to put it at the upper bout, similar to where LPs have them, you'll need route a space for it at the back of the tele, and drill a hole at the front. If you don't mind just a small toggleswitch, you might be able to fit one in the space already there for the controls. In that case you'll just need to drill a hole in the tele's metal control plate.

Refering to this pic:
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The smaller toggleswitch would probably fit into the existing space, but the larger toggleswitch very likely need routing and drilling, unless you sacrifice one of your controls (volume or tone. I guess in that sense you could turn the other knob into a dual ganged pot and still have both controls in the space of one).
 
possible to fit in in the routing from the bridge pickup leading to the control knobs board? theres like a diagonal cavity there, i want something like the bigger flipswitch. Er,Latching.
 
Phanto said:
fast stops and tremolo like effect?
Click to expand...

Then might want to reconsider the 2-way. It probably wouldn't last very long and its not going to be very fast. Figured that the reason why people use a 3-way LP style toggle or a button ala buckethead is durability (the fast switching) and the speed (again fast switching).

Buckethead uses a button. A momentary button.

I have about 5 left, they are NOS, old made in America switches. Much more sturdy than the MIC ones you find in Sim Lim. Fits the same hole as a 2-way mini toggle. If you want one let me know. I have one on Sabers at the moment.


FYI, i seldom use it, yet to find a reason to use it. You should think over it. Might end up with an extra hole for a switch you don't use.
 
heh.... you can find some mini MIJ toggle switches at sim lim.

I found something like 5PDT last time as well! MOJO!
 
Thing about a Tele is... The control cavities are pretty small so one has to drill the metal control plate.

Thats the one thing less practical about a Tele.

I understand.. I have one too... Beneath pickguard also no routing...
 
Phanto said:
possible to fit in in the routing from the bridge pickup leading to the control knobs board? theres like a diagonal cavity there, i want something like the bigger flipswitch. Er,Latching.
Click to expand...

The bigger toggleswitch will not fit in that cavity I think. The smaller one might be squeezable, will need pics of the cavity including the wires in there to know for sure.
 
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