my quest to tonal nirvana ( need softies help)

lucadia

lucadia

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Hi fellow softies.. as of the title thread.. i looking for a screaming lead tone for hard rock.. (think paul gilbert/gary moore).. i do have a crunchbox for high gain purposes.. but im stuck on which pedal to boost my crunchbox..

the pedals i have in mind are:

Fulltone OCD
BB preamp
Ac booster

now to amplifiers.. would a orange tiny terror do the job.. or would i need a laney lc15??

softies!! please flood me with your suggestions!! any/all suggestions are deeply appreciated.. thanks!!
 
You wana boost your crunchbox? Its already high gain in my opinion for leads. Both guitarists use different amps. You may not be able to get their tones. You can get Marshall Vintage Modern for PG tones.
 
lucadia said:
Hi fellow softies.. as of the title thread.. i looking for a screaming lead tone for hard rock.. (think paul gilbert/gary moore).. i do have a crunchbox for high gain purposes.. but im stuck on which pedal to boost my crunchbox..

the pedals i have in mind are:

Fulltone OCD
BB preamp
Ac booster

now to amplifiers.. would a orange tiny terror do the job.. or would i need a laney lc15??

softies!! please flood me with your suggestions!! any/all suggestions are deeply appreciated.. thanks!!
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Stack a Tubezone OD after the crunchbox... You'd be surprised what kind of tone that will give you...:twisted:
 
Whitestrat said:
Stack a Tubezone OD after the crunchbox... You'd be surprised what kind of tone that will give you...:twisted:
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Wah dan dey.... quite :twisted: recommendation bro..haha.

BTW somehow my tubezone really sounds great for mesa rock tones at home, but it didn't seem to come alive in a jam room. my dyna red really rocked the jam room, tho it didn't produce any mesa distortion tones.

Back to the topic...for rock lead tone, the crunchbox can actually cut thru the mix, you may want to fiddle with the internal presence knob to get the right EQ for your band.

My experience with the crunchbox, however little, has told me that it isn't exactly pedal-friendly. I tried an RC booster with the cbox before - kinda muddy and loose to me, so a TS type pedal may not be the best. You could try out the cleaner boost pedals e.g. catalinbread super chili picoso, gsonique boosty. Should get better results.
 
How about a clean boost WITH EQ shaping capabilities placed AFTER the crunch box?

The Crunch Box should have enough gain on its own.

Try this: Turn up your amp's volume.

Seriously. Turn it up. And use your crunch box. I think you will find the whole sound changes and you really don't need to add more gain. Probably just a clean boost for volume and eq-ed a little so it cuts thru nicer.
 
Damn right it is a waste! Shame on you!

But I use a Strobostomp not because i need to tune but I just needed to fill up space. :P

Tee hee hee!

Whichever way works - works!
 
ShredCow said:
How about a clean boost WITH EQ shaping capabilities placed AFTER the crunch box?

The Crunch Box should have enough gain on its own.

Try this: Turn up your amp's volume.

Seriously. Turn it up. And use your crunch box. I think you will find the whole sound changes and you really don't need to add more gain. Probably just a clean boost for volume and eq-ed a little so it cuts thru nicer.
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YESHH. eq is mad.

i used a scooped mids settling for my strat on clean once. when i stepped on my metal muff, i maxed the mids and it was only that far i could get.
but on the amp, when i tweaked my bass and mids, immediately there was the heaviness i needed...
even a slight volume boost+ mids + can yield totally different tonal results..
 
clean-boost pedal? like catalinbread super chili picoso and gsonique boosty? where do i find them..

and for eq.. would a GE-7 be enough or are there better alternatives???

thanks shredcow kennethC, keithC, leecs and whitestrat for your comments!
 
Personally, the amp's EQ is sufficient for me. I have never needed an EQ pedal, but I can see how one could be useful for varying live situations where you want to achieve similar tone settings with different amps/PA systems. So I guess it depends on whether you'll be needing that versatility, lucadia. I use my rig mostly in church(same church) and sometimes in jam studios, and have been getting consistent tones without an EQ pedal.

As for where to get those...I believe tymusic and ebenex do carry catalinbread, while gsonique boosty is still available(I think...? goose, yay or nay?) from mrmisse. Do try as many boost pedals as you can to find out which works best for you, with the cbox. Again, transparent boosters should work pretty well with the cbox.
 
The Catalinbread has no EQ shaping capabilities - either you like it or you don't.

The boosty has 4 controls - bass, treble, gain and volume. Bass and treble - your basic eq, need more mids? Reduce both. and vice versa. Volume is your regular volume... works together with gain for massive volume boost. Now gain... this controls volume too but adds a touch of hair & bite. I thought this was very cool... you can add a wee bit more grit... or just have it clean clean. Note that this is cheaper than the Catalinbread.

The GE-7 is noisy. Has hiss... try before you buy.
 
catalinbread

just thought i'd clarify that at this point of time, we do not carry catalinbread.

go look for tymc!
 
If a crunchbox does not have enough gain for Gary Moore,Paul Gilbert....you have a problem with ur guitar/amp/cables...u dont need another pedal
 
KennethC said:
.. while gsonique boosty is still available(I think...? goose, yay or nay?) from mrmisse. Do try as many boost pedals as you can to find out which works best for you, with the cbox. Again, transparent boosters should work pretty well with the cbox.
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nay ?
A booster is essential for pushing a tube amp or giving a weak but good sounding dirt pedals some oommppphhh.

This may may be an assumpsion here but ususally 'gain' has been misunderstood and given time people will learn. .. its proper use and abuse!

The crunch box gives lots of gain (distortion) but lacks punch. As suggested a clean booster can be incooperated after but not before as it may mush out loosing clarity.
This lack of punch can also be compensated with proper use of the amp especially those with master volume (power section) but requires playing at louder volume. (Please do not expect this through a small pratice amp).

If a crunchbox does not have enough gain for Gary Moore,Paul Gilbert....you have a problem with ur guitar/amp/cables...u dont need another pedal
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+1 ;)
 
If you need to stack 1 million pedals to get the tone you want then it will be very problematic to switch to a different tone for another part of a song within a fraction of a bar.

That holds unless you have lots of cables and loopings and a whole load of roadies ready at your back to deactivate 5 pedals and activate another 7 in a split second.
 
yeah.. i feel that my crunchbox has enough gain for the tone i want.. but i need that extra punch during solos as what gsonique has mentioned.. how about the AC booster?? paul gilbert uses it.. would it have that punch i need??
 
Paul gilbert uses it, doesnt mean its good for you. lets not talk about pedals. What amp are you using?
 
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