My experience at Yamaha TM ; Are they overprotective?

DoubleBlade

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I will try to make this sound cool , calm and matured.

I'm not blaming anyone here but I just want your opinion on what I experienced this evening at Yamaha Tampines Mall.

I was looking at some piano scorebooks contemplating on whether I should purchase them or not. Beside the music books section was the piano section where they had pianos for show. There was this age 20+ lady who who went around different pianos playing the same piece over and over again. Out of some curiousity I decided to play on one of their showroom pianos. I know that Yamaha are highly protective of their products especially their pianos (as pianos cost a bomb). I played in a very very soft tone with a few bar of melodies and proceeding from one piano to another (I only tried on 3 pianos as compared to that 20+ lady who tried almost every piano). When I was at the grand piano , of course I knew that I should not play loudly and stuff like that because Yamaha are highly protective of their pianos but what happened next kind of made my blood boil....

The piano salesman came up to me and ask "Can I helped you" of course instantly I can smell the sacarsm by the look of his face. I immediately apologised to him as I knew that his face meant. Again he stared at me with that "Get the hell out" kind of look on his face. I told him I did not need his help as after all I wasn't purchasing any of pianos (like I had the financial capacity to do so) and he still continue to stare at me. I just walked off out of the store. If it wasn't for my childish innocence I would have created a scene at the store and probably just show him the finger and then walk off.

From a salesman point of view , I truely understand you as a salesman for Yamaha having to see kids day in day out thumping loudly at the pianos would certainly be an eyesore and I find it truely justifiable to actually tell the kids to stop playing on the piano as it might damage the piano (if they were sooooooo particular at the condition of their showroom pianos that is). But to actually make an in direct sacastic remark to someone who is just playing really softly on the piano , it feels like an insult to me as compared to the salesman telling me to stop playing the piano. Trust me the sound produced can be as good as negligable. If my shoes was "dirtying" the sustain pedal , I was only using the tip of my shoe to depress the sustain pedal as I did not want to stain the pedal with the slightest of dirt on my shoes.

One might just say ,"You should not play on the piano because they said no practising on the piano is allowed" but I have see lots of people practising on the showroom pianos and the piano salesman just sat in his corner doing nothing.

With regards to this , I seriously don't understand why Yamaha must put the "No Practising On The Piano" sign on the top of every piano when the keys of the piano are exposed and the sustain pedal (the right pedal) isn't sealed with plastic unlike the 2 other pedals which they seal. It's just as good as welcoming people to play on the piano because the very fact that the keys are exposed and this may sound a little bit petty but the sustain pedal wasn't even sealed at all which makes it even more welcoming for people to play around with it.

If they were so particular of not having anybody touch their pianos , maybe they should barracade the entire piano section and put a signboard which says "Please ask for assistance".

Having said all that , I wonder whether my experience should be justified?

I'm trying my best not to rant about it....

Any Yamaha or ex Yamaha staff would like to share their thoughts on why Yamaha are so protective over their products even if they are just showroom models? Because other music stores I have come across don't seem to be that overprotective when it comes to people touching their instruments.
 
Yamaha TM?
I made friends with some of the sales personel there, and got to have a couple of jams with their guitars, extended "testing". :D

But there's an older chap there who is quite... uptight out his pianos. Maybe you just got the wrong salesman... or caught him on a bad day.
 
Not really everytime I go there to check out scorebooks , he is always smiling and giving professional comments to housewives along with their kids. :)

Actually I had a good impression of him initially and I respect his vast knowledge of acoustic instruments at the showroom but not today I guess....
 
Could be a really bad day.

While its not an excuse for someone in the sales industry to do so, he is still human, and perhaps we should be gracious.

But it would be cool to find out yamaha's policy with regards to their instruments on show.
 
i know which one u mean... hes quite screwed up... anyway, the first time i went there, i was alone and i wanted to try out the U5 series piano, it costs 10k. he gave me that stupid look and after i played like 6 notes he asked me how was it and whether i wanted it (with that SACARSTIC look on his face). i just said it was ok and walked out

a few months later, i went back to the shop. With my mother.
I LOOKED for the same guy, and i bought the piano, and i gave him that "look at my face" kind of look, he didn't really dare look at me :lol:
 
I'm not sure whether such sacarism by a salesman should deserve a complain to the management? I mean he has to maintain his rice bowl but on the other hand it is somehow tarnishing the image of Yamaha although some of us have past bad experiences with Yamaha.

I mean it's often better to actually tell the person directly not to practice on the piano then to inject sacarism into it which may act as an insult to the other party....
 
Salesmen are hired hands, so I wouldn't blame the yamaha management for that. Like swee lee some are them r a**holes. But cannot blame the entire swee lee right?
BUT if the person who is rude to me is the boss, I make it a point not to purchase from them anymore, even if I have to scour for 2nd hand acoustic stuff. I will not be a sucker and tolerate this kind of behaviour.
 
hmmm... i sat down at yamaha Tamp mall one day also ... with my gf... just wanted to check out one of their acoustics... i took it down ... and strummed a chord... the sales boy with piercings all over his face was like hovering next to me and telling me im not supposed to "practise" on the guitars.... sensing that he was clearly mistaken i stood up ... and told him that i was TESTING... and i WANTED to BUY and thank you for your time... then me and my gf left.

good sales service REALLLY goes a long way in singapore. Gone are the days where you have to suck thumb and endure those "attitude/snobbish" store staff... cus they are the biggest store... or cus they are the only ones who bring in certain stuff...

im generally nice and polite.. therefore i do not deserve bad attitude from shop staff - no matter how bad their days are.
 
can't blame em all i guess. but from my experience. they're protective in the sense that make sure they watch you play, and nothing gets scratched. but then again. that's why singapore is rated 33/35 in some study to do with either friendliness. helpfulness. or service... but it will sooner or later go lead back to weak service la.
 
DoubleBlade, i have deleted your msn post. let's leave 3rd party experience out of the discussion.
 
aiyah, yamaha's customer service is terrible...

when i was informed by a sales staff to go down to collect my metal muff, i was pleasantly delighted cos i didnt expect such service due to a prior experience. but it doesnt salvage the fact tt they're a**holes IMO. even swee lee can answer my question....read on.

around 2 months before the metal muff started shipping to sg, i called yamaha and enquired about the product. their incompetent staff thought tt i wanted to purchase an electone (yeah u know, ELECTro-harmonix) and put me thru 3 departments before talking to this salesguy who couldnt wait to hang up.

"hi, do u guys carry the metal muff by eh?"

"um.....no but it's shipping in."

"when would it be in stock?"

"sorry i don't know exactly."

"would it be possible to give me a rough estimate?"

"no."

"*drags argh due to disappointment*"

"yeah."

the kind of "yeah" when u want to get out of a conversation when u see there's nothing in for u.

and then i hung up.

:smt013
 
It might help if you asked to try out the instrument. Not that I'm defending Yamaha's policy; everyone has a different take on this issue, and I'm somewhat ambivalent (I believe it depends on context.) But yeah, asking to try, talking with the salesperson, does help break down the barriers of suspicion & the unknown.

I've had good experience with Beez at Guitar77, but that's because he's so warm in addressing his customers. He's very busy at times though. Came over and asked me if I needed any help, so I asked to try out one of the teles there.
 
Another thumbs up for Beez too, I would get my strings from them if they had DR/D'addario acoustic strings haha... zero attitude problem - actually it pretty much applies to all the G77 staff.
 
Dont have much prob with the staff at Yamaha TM, theres' this sales guy with a big earing who is quite friendly, tried guitars there before, they usually leave u alone to try, they wont "hover" over u, but u must ask them first of course before trying. As for the old guy some of u were talking abt, I find him quite friendly too, I bought my first electric guitar off him when I first started out, was very patient with me, guess he had a bad day.
 
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