Mustang, Jaguar

[ekid]

Hey all, im new here. Always lurking about reading in the shadows. Guess its time i post.

My question is:

For newbies (like me) who are interested in getting a feel & sound of Fender Mustangs & Jaguars, where would be a good place to look around? Swee Lee has none of that shipping in for a long while or so i'm told.

A price range i can expect for a 1st hand of the above 2 guitars would be in what region? 1.5K & above? MIM, MIJ, MIA..... which is recommended over the others?

Basically any info bout the Mustangs & Jaguars would help.

TKS!

 

[Cloudsky]

Check out guitar77 at the basement of excelsior shopping centre.

 

[ekid]

Yesh, i did that. Mainly stood there & watch. But i'm talking about testing out a new piece, not used or vintage for that matter. Their jaguars are all pretty used if im not wrong?

 

[Cloudsky]

I think they are brand new, direct import from Japan/USA

 

[thor666]

*cough cough* there's a Ishibashi MO on this forum... 8)

 

[subversion]

hi bro.

i'm gonna detract a little, i hope it remains relevant to you.

i've been interested in those Mustangs & Jags for quite some time now but simply couldn't bring myself to buy them because of some features i dislike, but that remains to be a personal disliking, you may like them of course. anyway, i'd like to bring to your attention to a mustang/ jaguar/ jazzmaster hybrid which are in stores now (have been since 2001, nothing new...)- the Toronado. available in 2 versions currently- mex & US.

what i like about this model is that they feel absolutely superb, playability is top notch. the tone is another draw to these models, but nothing 'vintage' in store here. if you prefer the jag/ mustang single coil vibe, then you'd do well to join the Ishibashi mail order under brother stars management, orders to cease in August. 8)

price wise, the mex Toronado could be had for sub-$1K after disct, the american version lists for $1,600 (approx $1.3K after disct). it's comparable to ordering the Jap Jaguar from Ishibashi.

Toronado (Mex)

Toronado (us) Highway 1 series

 

[stars]

what i like about this model is that they feel absolutely superb, playability is top notch. the tone is another draw to these models, but nothing 'vintage' in store here. if you prefer the jag/ mustang single coil vibe, then you'd do well to join the Ishibashi mail order under brother stars management, orders to cease in August. 8)

thank ya brother sub

hmmz

ok heres the ishibashi page to made in japan fender jaguars

case in point here. ishibashi fender jap jags tend to be reissues/vintage , featuring vintage specs e.g vintage fret profile , vintage pups . they have single coil and humbucker variants avaliable. there is also a special s-H arrangement

page here :

http://www.excite.co.jp/world/engli...tar/fender-j/jg-index.htm&wb_lp=JAEN&wb_dis=2

heres an average price calculation ;

60 000 yen + shipping(maximum) and taxes = 1143

for a kanda order / fender japan catalogue order with more colours , options and variants of the jag , look here

http://www.excite.co.jp/world/engli...der-j/kanda/col-index.htm&wb_lp=JAEN&wb_dis=2

some pics to fuel ur GAS 8)

classic 3TS jaguar

classic VWH w/ tortiseshell pickguard jag

classic humbucker equipped jag

this is kinda a special jag S-H pickup combination... note the body also. its smaller than ur standard jag. pickup on - off selector is also in a different position. [EDIT] its a kurt cobain sig model jagstrnag ? cross between mustang /jag characterisitcs



a question for brother sub : whats the difference between a jaguar and a jazzmaster ? both feature S-S and H-H pup config similar body shape , but jazzmaster dont have the pickup on off selector switch ?[/img]

 

[Elias]

Being quite a big fan of Fender Jaguars, here are some of the links I've collected so far while researching before I got my Jag... hope it helps

1) The Higher Evolution of Off-set waist guitars:
(Really good site. Includes setup, reviews, etc. You'll find the interactive Flash on how the switches in Jag work here too)

http://www.webrocker.de/jaguar/v2/index.php?page=start


2) Mel's Jaguar and Jazzmaster page:
(another good Jaguar and Jazzmaster page)

http://www.jagandjazz.com/


3) Fenderjaguar.net
(good setup tips and gallery)

http://fenderjaguar.net/


4) Jag-stang.com
(a cool site on Mustangs, Jags, Jag-stangs and Jazzmasters)

http://www.jag-stang.com/


5) Fender Mustang web
(site dedicated to Mustangs)

http://www.smallclone.com/mustang/


6) Fender Forum (Jag and Jazzmaster section)
(Loads of info from mods to vintage to ebay, etc)

http://www.fenderforum.com/forum.html?db=&message_area_number=25


7) Ishibashi online store
Jag and Mustang

8) Rockinn Japan online store
http://www.rockinn.co.jp/shopping/guitar/fender_j_mg.html (Mustang)
http://www.rockinn.co.jp/shopping/guitar/fender_j_jg.html (Jaguar)

BTW, not sure about Mustangs, but Jaguars are hard-to-please creatures and they're not meant for everyone. People either hate it or love it...hahah...almost all of them require set-up and have many issues that people find annoying...like noisy bridges, strings popping out of the saddles, loose saddle screws, puzzled over how to use trem-lock, switches, etc...and all these require some form of attention in one way or another. But once you've got them figured out, it's pure joy (okay lah...in my opinion cos it's subjective)

The short-scale neck on Jags are really nice to play with (esp. for my small hands) and body contour feels better than a Strat (again, it's my preference over my strat). Japanese Jaguars have pickups which tend to feedback quite easily but still sound nice nevertheless...US. reissue ones are fuller in sound and better protected against feedback (due to wax-dipping). I could go on and on, but it's better if you do the research yourself and savour all that info and graphic overload *lol*

Alternatively, you can check out other Fender 'hybrids' as suggested by Subversion as they can be the one you're really looking for

Enjoy!

 

[stars]

sadly bro .. rockinn dosent export out of japan

 

[Elias]

Yesh, i did that. Mainly stood there & watch. But i'm talking about testing out a new piece, not used or vintage for that matter. Their jaguars are all pretty used if im not wrong?

Guitar77 has brand new Japanese Jags you can test with. But I recently saw a post-cbs vintage Jaguar (with block inlays) in the shop which I practically drool over with :lol: (too bad I'm a lefty!!! URGH!)

 

[thor666]

Elias - u should consider doing a Jimi Hendrix lah. Lol.

 

[Elias]

Elias - u should consider doing a Jimi Hendrix lah. Lol.

I did! You mean this?

Heh *LOL* Actually I did own a righty Mex Strat before....but alas...cannot lah...I couldn't reach the high frets cos the cutaway hinders it and my fingers not as long as Jimi's :lol:

 

[thor666]

WAH 8O

respect. u must have totally wowed the crowd.

 

[Vaiyen]

your singer looks like Chery Fox.

 

[Elias]

WAH 8O

respect. u must have totally wowed the crowd.

Err...a few seconds of wayang/gimmick only lah...pose like Jimi but cannot say the same for playing :lol: There wasn't much of a crowd anyway... :roll:

Cheryl fox? Maybe only from this pic :wink:

 

[Rufus]

was looking at the jazzmaster... seems like a nice guitar to have... its both single coil pus right? or are they humbuckers? anyway owns them? how are they different from the strats?

 

[stars]

elias i tihnk i saw u b4 ... at the santa fe dealer shop ... ashleigh music right ?? i saw u with a hip-hop hood / tihng with the lady

ah ... is rottenramone ur bassist ? i recognise tt battered bluebird stingray anywhere in singapore ... defintely ...

 

[stars]

was looking at the jazzmaster... seems like a nice guitar to have... its both single coil pus right? or are they humbuckers? anyway owns them? how are they different from the strats?

hmmz

jazzmaster use humbuckers i tihnk. humbuckers are known for complementing certain body woods to provide a treble inclination + more mellow tone ... suitable for jazz

the tihng i dont understand is . since a jazzmaster = humbucker + jag style body ? wad the diff between a jag with humbuckers and a jazzmaster ?

 

[subversion]

the pickups in the Jazzmaster are single coils. when it was conceived, it's Leo Fender's answer to Gibson's P-90 pickup which was making quite a statement in the guitar scene back then. personally, i very much prefer the jazzmaster fat single coil tone to the P-90, it has more sting in the upper frequencies.

the reason why i brought up the Toronados was because it feels very much like the Jaguar neck-wise, but with a less protruding body. it has a less confusing set of electronics control too. the frets are also bigger & wider, more appealing to speed freaks like me. 8)

 

[Rufus]

then what is the diff bet a strat and a jazzmaster? i'm torn between the 2... 8O