Microphone Pre Amp

davidmars

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Hi I'm wondering if a mic pre amp has a purpose for live performances? I've been reading and it seems that it's usually applied only to live recordings or when a condenser microphone is used and the pre amp is there to boost its volume.

So what exactly is a mic pre amp and what does it do? Will it help in live gigs (not recordings) in terms of EQ-ing the vocal mic, or is that only done by the mixer? Is it kinda like a effects pedal for the microphones?

Appreciate your replies, thanks!
 
As the mic signal is low when it reaches the mixer, A pre-amp is used to boost the low signal level coming in before it gets amplified. Phantom power used to power condenser mics is supplied through the mixer.
Out board Pre-amps color the sound so it won't sound dull. Might have EQ depending on the outboard processor. Could be anything from a simple pedal-ish unit or a rack mounted device.
Don't worry about live performances. You might want to get a Mic suited towards your vocal range if you really want to invest in something.
 
Thanks for the reply Colarndo. So are you saying that I'll be better off investing in a microphone than a microphone pre-amp for live gig purposes?
 
is there any particular reason why you want a mic of your own for live gigs? given the state of live sound and PA's at most local gig venues it's not going to make a discernable difference, unless you're going for a dedicated "effects" mic (shure green bullet for lo-fi etc..)
 
Hey unsane. Well, there's no particular technical reason.. I'm not like a big rockstar with loads of albums behind me or understand a lot about live sound, haha. But I guess it's the same reason why guitarists have their own guitars, so forth.. I like to have something my own so I can personally ensure it's in good shape and always something that will bring out the best voice in me.

Please share your knowledge and experience! Especially why do you think a personal microphone won't make a discernable difference and tell us more about effects microphones?
 
There is hardly any purpose bringing a mic preamp for live performances. Most sound systems these days would have its own in built preamps, anyway. Also, mic preamps are mostly used to boost signals in condensor mics, which is highly unadvisable for rugged use (bringing to and fro locations and performances) because of the highly sensitive and fragile nature of condensors.

If you are keen on the idea of having something of your own to carry around for performances, a high quality dynamic mic like the Shure SM58 would have a better place for your purpose.
 
Hmm thanks for the info THOA. So pre amps are more for recording then?

And in regards of getting a microphone, besides the SM58, what others will you recommend and why? Additionally, besides the personal preference factor, how do you actually choose a microphone? What should you do and should not do when picking a mic, and what're the essential things to look out for?
 
davidmars

pre-amp, as mentioned by fellow SOFTies is a stage where the signal from microphone is amplified to a higer level for proper mixing/recording.

most mixing board comes with pre-amp. no need to bring your own.

in live performance situation, a $5000 pre-amp will sound almost like the default mixing board's pre-amp.

when you go to karaoke, you will realise how different microphone affect your sound. so, it might be a better choice to investigate the microphone route.
 
I am not a tech person. In fact, I am still pretty new with gears myself.

But I think some of the very important questions have to do with yourself rather than the mic. Namely:

- Budget
The most basic question, of course. How much are you willing to spend will help you determine what NOT to look at.

- Frequency of use
Second most important question. You can get a mic for 300 bucks and have it busted the very next day if you're the kind of guy who goes all over the isle on a skateboard.

Also, consider the kind of crowd you are up against eg sweatier crowd=more humid place=more prone for your mic to show signs of succumbing to scrap heaven.

- Style of singing
Are you an RnB/Jazz singer? Rock/metal? Screams even? Does your voice lean towards the lows or the highs? Answers to these will help you decide on the type of sound you want captured by the mic ie bassy-er or trebly-er. Frequency range plays a certain role here, although considerably lesser than in studio environment.

Again, the style of singing can be detrimental to your mics usability. You already are thinking of lugging your mic around, so durability is key here. If you are a screamer type, you want durability x 2. High SPLs can damage a lot of lower quality mics. Even high quality condensors will be shot if you scream into it.

- Other misc consideration
Something as simple as colour and the availability of an on and off switch can be a source of discontent to some folks.

That being said, I would personally recommend the SM58 because of reputation, build and sound quality at a reasonable price. It's my first real mic; a tremendous improvement from the 2 cheap karaoke mics that I had been using prior to it. I like the fact that it feels rather 'heavy' (read=solid) in my hand. Good for recording and performance.

Alternatively you can check out Sennheiser Evolution 800 series mics.

There're also 3-pack mics ie 3 mics in a package deals: Samsons Q6 and Whaferdale's DM series are pretty good value.
 
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