METALHEADS, help me!

c.adl

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Hey.

Ok ive just got my guitar yesterday! and i know how to play basic chords and abit of power chord.

What are the paths i should take to get into metal. Like learning how to alternate pick and i believe there are millions more to learn, can you name me some of the basic stuff? scales? techniques?

Do you guys learn from trying to cover songs, or just by learning all the basics before trying to cover?

Thanks for your time!
 
Some Metal Basics Suggestions.

Hi C.adl , for beginners, I would suggest you learn how to do palm muting first. Palm muting involves resting the side of your palm on the bridge of your guitar while you strum to produce a percussive sound. It is essential for you to do metal rhythm playing. Techniques for guitar in general (blues, rock and metal etc) includes hammering on and offs, bending the string, string vibrato etc. Alternate picking is a must if you want to play guitar solos and maybe sweep picking, arpeggios etc. I dunno what kinda metal bands you listen to so I'm just trying to provide as much info as I can. The more common scales includes the Pentatonic Major and Minor scales, the Mixolaydian scale, the Aeolian Scale and the Dorian Scale. I would suggest you start with the Pentatonic Major and Minor Scales. It is the most common and overly used guitar scales and honestly, I dunno a lead guitarist who doesn't know that scale in particular. The techniques I suggest does not just apply to metal songs alone, but other genres including rock, blues, jazz etc. B.B King once said "Blues gave birth to the child Rock and for that matter to the bastard child Metal." So you have to understand that the metal genre guitar techniques evolves from other genres like blues and rock. I would like to add that most guitar players do not just play one genre in general, they play other genres to increase the strength and indepedence of their fingers, picking flexiblity, ear trianing and creativity etc. Zakk Wylde(Ozzy Osbourne, Black Label Society) and John 5 (Marilyn Manson) practice country licks and chicken picking when they're alone in their room. So that kinda explains what I say. Sorry, I'm not very good at explaining, if you have any more questions, pls pm me.
 
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learn the pentatonics and then play them fast, besides alternate picking, also learn tremolo picking and tapping ala van halens eruption, learn how to do pinch harmonics like zakk wylde, and learn some slash licks and play them more aggressively for metal, then practice sweep picking like malmsteen
 
yea palm muteing and alternate picking is used oftenly...

for me, i just learned to cover many songs..both riffs and solos. as time goes by, you will be familiarize with some of the pattern of the solos and guitar strumming pattern. and after playing for a very long time, you somehow will know if u're playing a solo in the right key or not. u can somehow tell that it doesnt sound right(this happens SOMETIMES only for me).
the best is to learn some theory as well after practicing those practical stuffs that will get ur fingers moving.

anyway this are just tips from my experiances. Hope it'll help. Try out other better tips from more experianced ppl here too :)
 
thanks guys, now at least i know where to start. KEEP EM COMING!!!

for those who are wondering what kinda metal do i listen to,
lamb of god, trivium, COB, killswitch, motorhead, august burns red, in flames, as i lay dying etc.

i also listen to core stuff, BMTH, suicide silence etc.
 
learn the pentatonics and then play them fast, besides alternate picking, also learn tremolo picking and tapping ala van halens eruption, learn how to do pinch harmonics like zakk wylde, and learn some slash licks and play them more aggressively for metal, then practice sweep picking like malmsteen

malmsteen sweeps?? didnt know lol. anyway to TS, play everything uber slow 1st!! and i mean uber slow!! like one note every sec or more. if u can do it perfectly slowly, only then can u play fast.
 
besides alternate picking, you would wanna get some dexterity and endurance when downpicking. but that's something that comes with time. don't expect to accomplish that within a week.
 
+1 to above guy, when im trying to learn fast solos, i go freakin slowly first and gradually get faster and faster and faster...

once again ladyintears gives a useless comment...
oh well.
:)
 
Hi c.adl!

To get into metal, you must develop a strong sense of rhythm. Lots of heavy metal/metalcore songs have riffs which you need to coordinate with timing very well. It's essential to learn how to riff and the different techniques on how to do them. It's really good that you have metal influences, they are inspirational when it comes to songwriting and making good ol' metal tunes on your guitar.

First, you can learn how to gallop. This means that you mute in really fast triplets and it's cooler sounding in comparison to single downstroke muting. Galloping can be found anywhere in a metal song, from the intro, a verse, a breakdown, even a solo. When you manage to master it, you'll be able to get creative with galloping and even do stuff like skip strings while galloping on the low E, which I personally call skip muting. You will be riffing in no time ;)

The basic gallop can be found in the verses of Iron Maiden's The Trooper but If you do need more examples on what galloping is, you can listen to Ascendancy and Rain by Trivium, Battery and Blackened by Metallica, Room 409 and Scream Aim Fire by Bullet For My Valentine, Trashed, Lost and Strungout by Children Of Bodom...

Besides muting, adding other techniques to your riffs will be helpful in giving it character and also to make it sound hot. Techniques like tremolo picking and hammer ons and pull offs are often used. Now you can get really creative!


Now for shredding, I would really advise that you listen to the metal bands you are currently listening to. This will give you an idea on how a metal guitarist uses different scales and also the proper technique to pull 'em off.

Technique wise, you will have to first practice proper alternate picking REALLY SLOWLY. This will ensure that you will be less sloppy in your playing and you will be able to nail faster speeds if done religiously. Set some time in your practice sessions to practice your alternate picking and use a metronome to track your timing. Do not go fast if you can't, stick to your normal speed before you set your fretboard in flames. Be sure that every note you pick must ring out clearly, which requires coordination of your two hands. Also, you must learn to mute unwanted strings while you are alternate picking. Always keep the palm of your picking hand on the bridge when you are playing individual strings to prevent any unnecessary noise ringing out from other open strings.

Another shredding technique is known as sweep picking. It is when you use your pick to stroke it across multiple strings in one motion, up or down. Arpeggios, which means notes of a chord played separately, are usually executed by this technique and unlike strumming a chord it gives off a very fluid sound when being being sweep picked. My advise is to get your alternate picking right for better coordination of your two hands, then try out 3 string sweeps. Again, use a metronome and slowly sweep the arpeggios up and down with the palm of your picking hand lightly muting unwanted strings. This technique is hard, but with practice you can pull it off.

Metal is usually dark, heavy, mysterious and very middle eastern sounding. The scales which are commonly used in heavy metal would be the pentatonic minor, natural minor, harmonic minor and the exotic sounding phrygian mode. Search them up and study the patterns and then try to play them over a backing track. Over time you will start to make your own smaller riffs and solos over those scales. Over time, you will become theoretically aware of what you are playing and soon you will be shredding and sweeping really fast! It's worth the practice and that's what it's all about.

Well I hope I've helped!

Cheers ;)
 
Hi c.adl!

To get into metal, you must develop a strong sense of rhythm. Lots of heavy metal/metalcore songs have riffs which you need to coordinate with timing very well. It's essential to learn how to riff and the different techniques on how to do them. It's really good that you have metal influences, they are inspirational when it comes to songwriting and making good ol' metal tunes on your guitar.

First, you can learn how to gallop. This means that you mute in really fast triplets and it's cooler sounding in comparison to single downstroke muting. Galloping can be found anywhere in a metal song, from the intro, a verse, a breakdown, even a solo. When you manage to master it, you'll be able to get creative with galloping and even do stuff like skip strings while galloping on the low E, which I personally call skip muting. You will be riffing in no time ;)

The basic gallop can be found in the verses of Iron Maiden's The Trooper but If you do need more examples on what galloping is, you can listen to Ascendancy and Rain by Trivium, Battery and Blackened by Metallica, Room 409 and Scream Aim Fire by Bullet For My Valentine, Trashed, Lost and Strungout by Children Of Bodom...

Besides muting, adding other techniques to your riffs will be helpful in giving it character and also to make it sound hot. Techniques like tremolo picking and hammer ons and pull offs are often used. Now you can get really creative!


Now for shredding, I would really advise that you listen to the metal bands you are currently listening to. This will give you an idea on how a metal guitarist uses different scales and also the proper technique to pull 'em off.

Technique wise, you will have to first practice proper alternate picking REALLY SLOWLY. This will ensure that you will be less sloppy in your playing and you will be able to nail faster speeds if done religiously. Set some time in your practice sessions to practice your alternate picking and use a metronome to track your timing. Do not go fast if you can't, stick to your normal speed before you set your fretboard in flames. Be sure that every note you pick must ring out clearly, which requires coordination of your two hands. Also, you must learn to mute unwanted strings while you are alternate picking. Always keep the palm of your picking hand on the bridge when you are playing individual strings to prevent any unnecessary noise ringing out from other open strings.

Another shredding technique is known as sweep picking. It is when you use your pick to stroke it across multiple strings in one motion, up or down. Arpeggios, which means notes of a chord played separately, are usually executed by this technique and unlike strumming a chord it gives off a very fluid sound when being being sweep picked. My advise is to get your alternate picking right for better coordination of your two hands, then try out 3 string sweeps. Again, use a metronome and slowly sweep the arpeggios up and down with the palm of your picking hand lightly muting unwanted strings. This technique is hard, but with practice you can pull it off.

Metal is usually dark, heavy, mysterious and very middle eastern sounding. The scales which are commonly used in heavy metal would be the pentatonic minor, natural minor, harmonic minor and the exotic sounding phrygian mode. Search them up and study the patterns and then try to play them over a backing track. Over time you will start to make your own smaller riffs and solos over those scales. Over time, you will become theoretically aware of what you are playing and soon you will be shredding and sweeping really fast! It's worth the practice and that's what it's all about.

Well I hope I've helped!

Cheers ;)

Thank you so much for your time, every single word of ppl who gave me advice will be kept in mind.

I just nailed my first minor scale today, so im pretty stoked. haha!

ALSO: if u guys come across any guitar lessons that you think will be useful for me pls copy and paste the url here.

Thanks againnn.
 
one more thing,

as i have a bit of cash atm from not buying an amp cos im using an UX1 and tone from guitar are generated through my computer speakers. I dunno if this is recommended but the sound is not bad compared to amps.

Im thinking of getting new pickups so that i don have to worry bout it in time to come as im very bad at handling money. If you think it is a good idea to change it now, please let me know what sorta pickups are we looking at. HUMBUCKERS of cos.

Brands? im thinking of emgs. What combinations? 81/85? Where can i get it? Where is the best place to get it set up? How much are we looking at?

Besides that, i also wanna change the strings on my guitar. Recommend me strings and their details perhaps? This thing called gauge or sth like that.

Thanks for your time.
 
Hi c.adl! Glad that you managed to nail your first minor scale! Three string stuff is great for metal shred and you will surely get it!

Now for pickups, EMG 81/85s are definetly a metalhead's setup. But there are also other heavier sounding pups like the Seymour Duncan Blackouts and the DiMarzio Super Distortions. I'm not sure about the price and setup, but you can enquire at Davis Guitar for more information. They have those on sale as well as the setup service.

The Tesla Active pickups are on sale at Standard Value and I've tried them. They are actually pretty good and on distortion they can wreck havoc. I would recommend them.

The info and setup prices can be found here: http://standardvalue.com.sg/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=18

Mike @ Standard Value is a good guy and his services are just simply awesome. He's a friendly guy. Talk to him about your preferences, what your require, what you wanna sound like...anything. He's the man.

Cheers ;)
 
Hi c.adl! Glad that you managed to nail your first minor scale! Three string stuff is great for metal shred and you will surely get it!

Now for pickups, EMG 81/85s are definetly a metalhead's setup. But there are also other heavier sounding pups like the Seymour Duncan Blackouts and the DiMarzio Super Distortions. I'm not sure about the price and setup, but you can enquire at Davis Guitar for more information. They have those on sale as well as the setup service.

The Tesla Active pickups are on sale at Standard Value and I've tried them. They are actually pretty good and on distortion they can wreck havoc. I would recommend them.

The info and setup prices can be found here: http://standardvalue.com.sg/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=18

Mike @ Standard Value is a good guy and his services are just simply awesome. He's a friendly guy. Talk to him about your preferences, what your require, what you wanna sound like...anything. He's the man.

Cheers ;)

thanks, but to be on the safe side im only thinking of sds and emgs.

Ive been researching alot about them lately.

And concluded that its all personal preference, is it true? is it more like a trial and error thing to look for my tone? or should i just stick to one and live with it. hmm

thanks again.
 
Yes, it is definetly all about personal preference. Trial and error will come into play when you start to explore different tonalities and you will find yourself constantly playing and messing around until you get the tone that you want.

Of course there isn't such a thing as perfect guitar tone but you shouldn't just be content with what you CAN'T do. Finding your sound takes a lot patience, playing, careful listening and even screwing up your tone. Who do I wanna sound like? What can I sound like? What should I do to sound like? Should it be warm and smooth, or very hard and edgy? Trust me, pondering these kinda questions over and over again will motivate you to find your sound and you'll be like me, spending time and again in guitar shops during my youth to enquire and find out more.

How I started out was when I listened to Marty Friedman's solo in the song Hangar 18 by Megadeth and I fell in love with that very smooth but edgy tone of his. I started to favor the contour control on my Marshall since it gave it a very smooth touch while the distortion made it edgy at the same time. Soon, I began to turn my Bass control to around 2'o clock, my Mids at either 12 or 1'o clock and my treble to 2'o clock. I found my sought after tone and always played with these similiar settings.

Hope this has helped in some way.

Cheers ;)
 
Yes, it is definetly all about personal preference. Trial and error will come into play when you start to explore different tonalities and you will find yourself constantly playing and messing around until you get the tone that you want.

Of course there isn't such a thing as perfect guitar tone but you shouldn't just be content with what you CAN'T do. Finding your sound takes a lot patience, playing, careful listening and even screwing up your tone. Who do I wanna sound like? What can I sound like? What should I do to sound like? Should it be warm and smooth, or very hard and edgy? Trust me, pondering these kinda questions over and over again will motivate you to find your sound and you'll be like me, spending time and again in guitar shops during my youth to enquire and find out more.

How I started out was when I listened to Marty Friedman's solo in the song Hangar 18 by Megadeth and I fell in love with that very smooth but edgy tone of his. I started to favor the contour control on my Marshall since it gave it a very smooth touch while the distortion made it edgy at the same time. Soon, I began to turn my Bass control to around 2'o clock, my Mids at either 12 or 1'o clock and my treble to 2'o clock. I found my sought after tone and always played with these similiar settings.

Hope this has helped in some way.

Cheers ;)

thanks, youre very helpful. appreciate it.

is it advisable to get second hand sds or emgs? can you also name me a few easy metal songs to play? which includes all the basic stuff? :)

thanks again man!
 
Try to go for brand new ones. The condition of second hand pups are subjected to how the previous owner has taken care of it. Be sure that if you actually install them unto your guitar, test them out and make sure there are no problems at all, stuff like grounding not complete, static....overall make sure they are working perfectly. Still, my best advise is to save up and go for brand new SDs or EMGs. They're worth the wait and worth the money.

A very very simple metal song by Trivium is Rain from the album Ascendancy and it consists of fast galloping and heavy riffing. The song is quite rhythm based with a fairly easy solo at the end. This one will get your metal rhythm in coordination and personally it gets the blood flowing even before I gig.

Cheers ;)
 
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