line selector question

[audioslave]

hi there,
this is the first time going purchasing a line selector( or should i use that,
my intention is to have sort of of looping a wah pedal. with the final output to my amp with the wah tone as well as my guitar tone )

i am looking at the boss line selector LS-2. and it seem it the only pedal that can do a loop return. trying to search for others.. like tonebone or morley... don seem to hae the capabilites

any recommendation?

 

[unsane]

all loopers have a send/return. it wouldnt be a loop otherwise. why are you intending to use your wah in the line selector?

 

[theblueark]

I think he wants to mix the effected tone with the true tone. The boss line selector can mix two seperate loops together with one of it's modes, but i'm not sure how good it is. I also find it very weird that you want to mix a wah with a direct tone. Usually people use parallel mixing for stuff like a chorus and a phasor together, so that they don't affect each other.

 

[audioslave]

wah will suck up tone that's for sure...

by doing that (based on theory) should retain some on the true tone ....

 

[thor666]

it's hard to judge how much tone you will reclaim if you use a Line Selector... remember it's an extra cable and pedal you're fitting in.

if you want to prevent your wah from sucking tone, then mod it to true bypass.

 

[theblueark]

The wah will suck the tone when it's off, not when it's on.

What you want is a true bypass mod or a true bypass pedal to switch out of the wah circuit.

I'll be starting production on my A/B switches and true bypass pedals quite soon. Trying to keep the costs as low as possible but with quality parts so you guys who want a no frills pedal can get one for cheap. Might take a while for the shipment of parts to come in.

 

[unsane]

true bypass loopers? i'd definately be interested in that.

 

[theblueark]

Calculating off the top of my head, it'll be under $100. I still trying to source for cheaper parts first.

 

[thor666]

theblueark - that's cool man. hope to see your A/B pedals out soon.

 

[pooo]

I'll definitely be interested in those if you ever have them up for sale

 

[CrispyEgg]

oo true bypass! my friend would love to mod his wah with that feature, it's a great wah, but noisy as heck when off...

 

[Vaiyen]

does true bypass really produce noise when the unit is turned off?

 

[ShredCow]

No Vaiyen.. if its TB, when its off, its out of the circuit. It does not affect the circuit at all..

 

[CrispyEgg]

yeah but the bummer is that although certain pedals claim to have true bypass, they don't, instead its a just a complicated mess of wires that go through the same place and end up sucking up tone and making white noise.

i've only experienced true bypass/ true-bypass-quality on certain digital multi-fx pedals, and very very few stomp pedals, like the line6 UberMetal.

=(

 

[audioslave]

ya true it an extra cable... and extra Z inductance, but it ok.

i don know what line selector might helps in my effects layout..

, and i hate it that the most boss pedal cheaply made but sell expensive. it should be a simple circuit and i am looking AT THE aron electroinc website to dl some schematic to try to.

try to learning what i learn during my speaker building /audiophile days to build one, ( i mean for that type of money you spend on the pedal, might as well spend on some audiophile grad component.


but so far only BOSS line-2 has the function what i am looking for.

 

[unsane]

i disagree with boss pedals being cheaply made or simple..boss stuff will last you a lifetime and the line selector has dual level controls as well. its a simple circuit,but well its a pretty simple function in the first place.

if you're looking for a true bypass fully customizable looper, check out http://loooper.com/
not all that expensive too,might even be cheaper than the LS-2 but you'd have to order it. if you're getting anything let me know,we might be able to consolidate shipping.

the simplest two looper they have is USD$65, i believe thats cheaper than the LS-2 from swee lee even with shipping.

 

[ciel21]

yeah but the bummer is that although certain pedals claim to have true bypass, they don't, instead its a just a complicated mess of wires that go through the same place and end up sucking up tone and making white noise.

i've only experienced true bypass/ true-bypass-quality on certain digital multi-fx pedals, and very very few stomp pedals, like the line6 UberMetal.

=(

wah which multi gt true bypass, line 6 uber metal gt true bypass quality?
ehh a simple way to test is plug your guitar direct into the amp and hear how it sounds and then plug it in with the effect and off. If it sounds exactly the same its then good enough. But usually with pedals like boss and Line 6 there is a slight difference. and i haven heard a multi efx that doesnt suck tone when its off meaning no patches on. no amp sim no cab sim nothing. They will sound thinner than you plugging your guitar in direct.

But then again, if you have a multi it doesnt really matter since some amp sim will be on anyway be it clean or dist.

 

[karfty]

boss ls-2

unsane, swee is selling boss LS-2 for a listed price of 175.

after 40% and gst, it is about 110.25.

USD$65 X 1.7 = S$110.50

Cost of the line selector is slightly more ex.

but thanks for the website. if i need to get one in the future, we could share the shipping.

 

[unsane]

nice,i didnt know there was such a big discount on boss pedals at swee lee. i guess it depends on how anal you are about bypass issues. i'm using a LS-2 right now and i dont have a any major problems with it. on the other hand, if i was running alot more pedals i would probably go the for loooper ones.

the easiest way to determine if a pedal is true bypass or not is to plug it in without any power source (adaptor/batteries). if your signal still goes through its TB.

 

[karfty]

<nice,i didnt know there was such a big discount on boss pedals at swee lee. i guess it depends on how anal you are about bypass issues. i'm using a LS-2 right now and i dont have a any major problems with it. on the other hand, if i was running alot more pedals i would probably go the for loooper ones.
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unsane, this might be a little off-topic here, but what is your current effects set-up now?