jc or poly?

[love_replicate]

can't be all your fault i guess, local polys love publicising themselves as cool and hip and fun and all. (lulz anybody seen this year's singapore poly brouchure? is it me, or wapanese much.)

we students have to remind ourselves that when we pick a school, we're there to study - not play. ;D

 

[XLayaR]

Poly FTW......

 

[Jeff_SSG]

For poly, you need to consistently do well over periods spanning about what, a couple of months? - consistently over 3 years! That is an insane amount of studying.

Of course if youre looking to just have fun, university isn't a problem then I'd say poly all the way! Because it is fun, the lifestyle and freedom is awesome, but if you factor in chances of getting into a local uni, jc is the MUCH better choice.

Well i think the system of the local universities are somewhat like poly whereby it is also graded by GPA.
So u have to be consistant as well. And if u enter by JC route, if u wanna have good grades, u have to be consistant thru-out 4 years in uni!!!.
and that is more than 3 years in poly and the standard in uni is SICK

 

[theliverevolution]

Not true. Depending on course and school, it's a lot worse. i've been thru BOTH.:twisted:

Hmm. But generally, unless you want to do well, its not as stressful. I guess also because you don't have teachers breathing down your neck and reminding you that the A levels are less than dunnohowmany days away and that you need to really do well because if you can't get into university then you're completely gone case.

To do well in Poly requires consistent work throughout 3 years. To do well in JC requires consistent work for two years.

In short, to do well, requires consistency

 

[retardedrummer]

yes agreed business course very competitive.
80% of university cohorts take in JC. and thats why, i wanna get top 10% i poly. i try ah. haha. if not, overseas la. haha.

JC easier to enter uni, but they have to mug their ass of and score well. just like poly students

 

[empihsrow]

Having attended both JCs and polytechnics...

Sorry guys, but if you really want a conducive environment, JC is the way to go.

But here's the deal, there's a big difference between the top JCs and the not-as-prominent JCs.

If you have really great results, head straight to the top JCs.

If you have average results, a polytechnic or a not-as-prominent JC would be good, but if you're the kind who procrastinates at every opportunity, please do yourself a favour and head for a JC.

And seriously, if you're a 20-pointer, just go to a polytechnic and work it out. No point trying to slog it out in a JC because it is true that the JC syllabus is very intensive.

Advice from someone who's been there, done that.

And whoever says that you don't have to work throughout the years for a JC, you're really wrong. -.- Just working for your promotional exams or the As at the eleventh hour will seriously get you nowhere at all.

 

[theliverevolution]

JC easier to enter uni, but they have to mug their ass of and score well. just like poly students

You should change that line to:
JC and Poly students have to mug their ass off and score well to enter uni

 

[retardedrummer]

i believe la, i believe, that JC students stress level is higher than poly . and they really have to work their ass off there. 20 points can enter JC now meh? cannot what. unless innova or serangoon la. poly now all 15 points and below alr.

 

[Whitestrat]

But here's the deal, there's a big difference between the top JCs and the not-as-prominent JCs.

If you have really great results, head straight to the top JCs.

Well said!

 

[EugeneSmasher]

i believe la, i believe, that JC students stress level is higher than poly . and they really have to work their ass off there. 20 points can enter JC now meh? cannot what. unless innova or serangoon la. poly now all 15 points and below alr.

I don't think JC and Polytechnic can be compared like that. Within polytechnic itself, different courses, diplomas and even the different specialized modules have different stress levels, and of course it depends on you. If you're good at sciences but JAE puts you in business, you're going to go bonkers.

 

[EugeneSmasher]

You should change that line to:
JC and Poly students have to mug their ass off and score well to enter uni

And some poly students (actually a lot) have to forget about going to university. Sigh... Money issues, but also GPA-not-good-enough issues.

 

[theliverevolution]

Hmm. Perhaps I shall change a little of what I said.

Whether the JC/Poly system is more stressful, as what Eugenesmasher said, is dependent on the courses in Poly. JC is already stressful enough, and different Poly courses vary accordingly.

what I feel, is that the JC route would be a lot more pressurising.
Through my two years, I'm always constantly reminded by teachers that the ultimate goal of JC is the A levels. A levels are only good enough to enter University. If you don't do well to go Uni you're gone case. And the list goes on.
And it comes from parents, relatives, etc
Also, when I occasionally visit my friends in poly, I never fail to see bunches of people goofing around, looking very stress free. Pardon me, cause I'm not sure which course they come from or what. But it is at least more pleasing to the eye to look at those people having fun, goofing around, lazing around, then to deal with more than half the student body spending time studying in their free time. That adds on to more pressure for yourself. And you see it everyday in JC. Yikes.

At least, for Poly, if uni rejects you your diploma is still good enough to secure you a stable job. and you're paid more than an A lvl holder

 

[Whitestrat]

I guess also because you don't have teachers breathing down your neck and reminding you that the A levels are less than dunnohowmany days away and that you need to really do well because if you can't get into university then you're completely gone case.

Not true. in fact, it's because of this stand off-ish take from lecturers in Poly that you panic even more. When you're in JC, your'e still a school student. You're still spoonfed and led around. You still have assembly for pete's sake! Poly students are treated like adults. You do well, or decide to ruin your life and waste your time, is up to you. YOU take responsibility for YOUR actions. I would prefer JC mothering in contrast to the throw-you-one-corner-expect-you-to-swim attitude in Poly. THAT is less stressful.

Whether the JC/Poly system is more stressful, as what Eugenesmasher said, is dependent on the courses in Poly. JC is already stressful enough, and different Poly courses vary accordingly.

what I feel, is that the JC route would be a lot more pressurising.
Through my two years, I'm always constantly reminded by teachers that the ultimate goal of JC is the A levels. A levels are only good enough to enter University. If you don't do well to go Uni you're gone case. And the list goes on.
And it comes from parents, relatives, etc
Also, when I occasionally visit my friends in poly, I never fail to see bunches of people goofing around, looking very stress free. Pardon me, cause I'm not sure which course they come from or what. But it is at least more pleasing to the eye to look at those people having fun, goofing around, lazing around, then to deal with more than half the student body spending time studying in their free time. That adds on to more pressure for yourself. And you see it everyday in JC. Yikes.

Having sucessfully gone thru both (yes, I have both 'A' Level certs as well as a Poly diploma), the stress level is the same. Most of those students you DON'T see are the ones mugging away. Polys go by a modular system. You can be kicked out within a year, if you're not careful. A levels are easier to obtain than a diploma. This is according to my experience. I literally didn't study the whole 2 years of my A'levels, and I came out with all 'C's. That same relaxed attitude most certainly didn't work for my diploma...:mrgreen:

Another thing to note about the difficulty of a diploma also comes from WHICH poly you go to. I remember mugging for my electronics papers, and doing past year questions in a study group. After we cleared the last 5 years of SP papers, we moved on to Ngee Ann papers, which did offer some challenge, but still not as tough as the SP ones... When we moved on to TP and NYP, we started laughing at the papers because compared to what we went thru for the SP and NP ones, those were like secondary school papers. We could ace those with our eyes closed. No kidding. The disparity in standards is THAT wide.

Considering that SP's engineering background is historically the basis of the NUS Engineering Faculty, we could understand why. We just cursed at ourselves for not going to NYP or TP to study the same course...

Circuit & Control Theory papers in SP are no joke.

 

[Gravity.]

^
coming from a year in jc, and now currently in poly,
i couldnt agree more.

 

[theliverevolution]

Hmm. My two years in JC didn't feel like spoonfeeding, or maybe perhaps after the main syllabus was taught I practically switched off in class. You'll see me doing other topics then what the teacher was doing on the board. Didn't help that I was doing the new revamped syllabus. Yes, I'm in the guinea pig batch. Half my teachers didn't know how to teach certain things. So they ended up teaching unneccesary stuff

And coming from an Arts class, perhaps there's less spoonfeeding then the science classes. *shrugs*

 

[empihsrow]

Well, I am studying in an Arts class now and I certainly felt there wasn't much spoonfeeding. As compared to the disastrous Science stream in my school... Haha, you can dream of teachers giving you every answers you need.

On the contrary, when I was in polytechnic, I felt there was much more spoonfeeding but
I just didn't bother back then. :O

 

[Whitestrat]

Well, I am studying in an Arts class now and I certainly felt there wasn't much spoonfeeding. As compared to the disastrous Science stream in my school... Haha, you can dream of teachers giving you every answers you need.

Tell me more about the lack of spoonfeeding AFTER you enter University.

 

[theliverevolution]

I think spoonfeeding is dependant on the school, teacher, course, subjects, etc. A friend of mine said that once his teacher pratically revealed most of the answers to a test over a couple of weeks, then gave them the test and most of them aced it.

This, coming from a poly

 

[hifi_killer]

Tell me more about the lack of spoonfeeding AFTER you enter University.

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[rock-fied]

About JC students being spoon-fed, certainly not happening in my case. Either you study/attend lectures/print your own notes.. or you die. This may not be the case in other JCs but i definitely know at least two more with the same environment.

About stress levels and everything else, yeah definitely agree with the general opinion.

P.S. thread digger here lol