how many of you actually quit jc to go to poly?
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mellapong said:
There is nothing wrong wif going JC.. you just have to make sure that you know what you want.. dun just go wif the flow... I personally went to Jc ... never regretted the decison... yeah life is not all perfect cannot guranttee tt ur JC 2 yrs will be shiok shiok but hey who is to tell.
And i would just like to say that i just comment that i think we should be offering constructive comments here instead of just shooting JC or Poly just becos any of us had some bad experiences. Like that we are just reflecting bad on our own self and your own school. By commentting such immaturely, it is like telling the world what kind of ppl u get if u go to that Jc or Poly. And defeats the purpose of the topic which is to help our younger softies make a better informed decision. I really thankful that there are some ppl in this forum have really given great constructive comments...
let me be more constructive.
i've been a tutor to upper secondary students for the past 6 years, myself having gone through 2 years of JC life and 4 years of university life, while a large segment of my social circle comes from the polytechnics.
before i go on let me cite you a CASE STUDY:
My cousin is retaking his A levels this year, this is his 3rd year in JC. he got into this JC appealing through sports, his O levels he scored 17 points.
The JC (and many JC's nowadays) dictated what subjects he must take. Couldn't take 4 subjects, and the 3 subjects he was forced to take were Econs, Chemistry, Maths. The school's stand is "take this subject combi, or go elsewhere to another JC".
(It is my belief that the school forces students to take these subjects because their track record in these subjects are stronger, and their school ranking goes up. Contrast to allowing students to take the subjects they love, but its more difficult and pull the school rankings down.)
His biggest regret is not taking Physics because he wanted to do engineering in university. He stuck to the JC, struggled and wondered why he even came to JC doing subjects that wouldn lead him to the path he wants to go. He was completely unmotivated.
Here's the catch; he stuck to that JC because he FELT that going to a polytechnic was inferior. all his friends were going to good JC's (again an issue of ranking) and he followed the paper chase.
Sadly, even if he does well this year for his A levels, he still can't do MAE at NTU, the path he wanted to take. Even if he could, he has a lot of catching up to do.
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Ironically i came from the same JC as my cousin, only 7 years ago. Back then, they allowed me to take 4 subjects even though i didn't qualify. They held rock concerts for school founder's day. The school ranking was the pits but everyone loved what they were studying, and still majority made it to wherever they intended to go.
After a change in principal, they decided to want to "top the charts". No more D's or C's shall be tolerated at A levels. Now they bar students from taking A levels if they did badly from their prelims!!!
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i know my disdain for the JC system is overly apparent, but that's because of the realisations that i got after the pieces of information came together from so many sources and years as an observer in this "industry".
My advice to those considering going to JC: Go to a JC that is less interested in ranking, like those not in the top 10. ask around from your seniors and find out which JCs have students that are happy and which JCs suffocate their students. Do not just consider school's ranking.
i've been a tutor to upper secondary students for the past 6 years, myself having gone through 2 years of JC life and 4 years of university life, while a large segment of my social circle comes from the polytechnics.
before i go on let me cite you a CASE STUDY:
My cousin is retaking his A levels this year, this is his 3rd year in JC. he got into this JC appealing through sports, his O levels he scored 17 points.
The JC (and many JC's nowadays) dictated what subjects he must take. Couldn't take 4 subjects, and the 3 subjects he was forced to take were Econs, Chemistry, Maths. The school's stand is "take this subject combi, or go elsewhere to another JC".
(It is my belief that the school forces students to take these subjects because their track record in these subjects are stronger, and their school ranking goes up. Contrast to allowing students to take the subjects they love, but its more difficult and pull the school rankings down.)
His biggest regret is not taking Physics because he wanted to do engineering in university. He stuck to the JC, struggled and wondered why he even came to JC doing subjects that wouldn lead him to the path he wants to go. He was completely unmotivated.
Here's the catch; he stuck to that JC because he FELT that going to a polytechnic was inferior. all his friends were going to good JC's (again an issue of ranking) and he followed the paper chase.
Sadly, even if he does well this year for his A levels, he still can't do MAE at NTU, the path he wanted to take. Even if he could, he has a lot of catching up to do.
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Ironically i came from the same JC as my cousin, only 7 years ago. Back then, they allowed me to take 4 subjects even though i didn't qualify. They held rock concerts for school founder's day. The school ranking was the pits but everyone loved what they were studying, and still majority made it to wherever they intended to go.
After a change in principal, they decided to want to "top the charts". No more D's or C's shall be tolerated at A levels. Now they bar students from taking A levels if they did badly from their prelims!!!
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i know my disdain for the JC system is overly apparent, but that's because of the realisations that i got after the pieces of information came together from so many sources and years as an observer in this "industry".
My advice to those considering going to JC: Go to a JC that is less interested in ranking, like those not in the top 10. ask around from your seniors and find out which JCs have students that are happy and which JCs suffocate their students. Do not just consider school's ranking.
theblueark
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Good point.
I think:
If you enjoy high pressure, can study damn well and damn hard, then maybe you should go to a good JC.
If you might falter a bit here and there, but know you have what it takes, go to a lower ranked JC where the teachers actually care about the students and not the grades. (Have to ask around, some low rank JCs still have asshole teachers and principles)
If you know exactly what you want to specialise in and know you can study damn well, go to poly. You still can go Uni after that.
If you not good in studies, go poly, don't waste 2 years in JC then go poly in the end.[/url]
So much debate over such a personal topic.
Study choice is totally a personal issue. You make you own choice, know your own limit, that's where you cross over from being a child to an adult.
Up to sec level, your parents have the most say in how you should progress, and yes you should listen to them. They more likely know better then.
Some would already find it a struggle when they are in sec level. Thus the academic road is different for everyone.
I just want to say, try not to dissapoint your parents, but when you come of age, you should know which path you should take already. Explain to them if you have reached your limitation or you have chosen a path different from what they expect.
Ultimately, you have to determine your own future, if not. Then you are basically a pathetic person.
Study choice is totally a personal issue. You make you own choice, know your own limit, that's where you cross over from being a child to an adult.
Up to sec level, your parents have the most say in how you should progress, and yes you should listen to them. They more likely know better then.
Some would already find it a struggle when they are in sec level. Thus the academic road is different for everyone.
I just want to say, try not to dissapoint your parents, but when you come of age, you should know which path you should take already. Explain to them if you have reached your limitation or you have chosen a path different from what they expect.
Ultimately, you have to determine your own future, if not. Then you are basically a pathetic person.
Ok sorry if I scared pple into not going JC by my previous post. If I had to choose again, I would still choose JC simply because it's a shorter route than poly (if NUS/NTU don't allow you to offset subjects due to poly) , don't wan to spend too many years studying.
I was just talking about my personal experience, I'm sure many pple had fruitful JC lives, I'm just a sad case :roll:
The reason I didn't do well in FMaths is a result of my own neligence, just study consistently and you'll do fine
Don't WAKE UP like me in the last 3 months and furiously do ten year series haha...
Mikemann is right - it's a personal choice, you make the choice and live with the consequences.
Pier.
I was just talking about my personal experience, I'm sure many pple had fruitful JC lives, I'm just a sad case :roll:
The reason I didn't do well in FMaths is a result of my own neligence, just study consistently and you'll do fine
Don't WAKE UP like me in the last 3 months and furiously do ten year series haha...Mikemann is right - it's a personal choice, you make the choice and live with the consequences.
Pier.
edder
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haiyorrr... like this also can...
if you got chance to go JC then uni... do it. Your paper education cycle will be "almost" complete and you can enter the workforce without much worries about paper qualification till the next masters or MBA etc.
if you got chance to go Poly then do it. If after NS got chance go Uni, do it. If not you might have to work and study at the same time.
You might be happy working for the first few years with a diploma and then you see uni grads coming in with ZERO experience earning MORE than you and at a higher position with better chances of climbing HIGHER. Why?? Paper qualification.
if you already have a family business or have plans or whatever that does not really need that "sikit atas" piece of A4 paper then do whatever you want.
In the end, paper qualifications is important and necessary. Note i didn't say education. There are those with paper qualification but are not necessarily educated. But thats a different story and lets not go there.
if you got chance to go JC then uni... do it. Your paper education cycle will be "almost" complete and you can enter the workforce without much worries about paper qualification till the next masters or MBA etc.
if you got chance to go Poly then do it. If after NS got chance go Uni, do it. If not you might have to work and study at the same time.
You might be happy working for the first few years with a diploma and then you see uni grads coming in with ZERO experience earning MORE than you and at a higher position with better chances of climbing HIGHER. Why?? Paper qualification.
if you already have a family business or have plans or whatever that does not really need that "sikit atas" piece of A4 paper then do whatever you want.
In the end, paper qualifications is important and necessary. Note i didn't say education. There are those with paper qualification but are not necessarily educated. But thats a different story and lets not go there.
I'm currently in JC now and honestly the thought of going to Poly has crossed my mind probably a gazilliiioooon times.
On one hand JC life is really, i mean REALLY tough. It is seriously VERY academic as many ppl have already mentioned and definately not suitable for everyone. I really admire those who dared to take that big step out of JC into Polys. I for one don't have the courage.
On the other hand, many of my friends are in Poly and i hear so much about what they are doing in sch and all. It sounds so much more interesting.
But as much as I would like to turn back time to when i had to make my choice, I can't. So for now, i'll just bear one more year of JC b4 i can once again move on.
Though it may be difficult, to me it is also a good test of my endurance and will-power.
On one hand JC life is really, i mean REALLY tough. It is seriously VERY academic as many ppl have already mentioned and definately not suitable for everyone. I really admire those who dared to take that big step out of JC into Polys. I for one don't have the courage.
On the other hand, many of my friends are in Poly and i hear so much about what they are doing in sch and all. It sounds so much more interesting.
But as much as I would like to turn back time to when i had to make my choice, I can't. So for now, i'll just bear one more year of JC b4 i can once again move on.
Though it may be difficult, to me it is also a good test of my endurance and will-power.
