how many of you actually quit jc to go to poly?
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mero said:
1) poly students who made it to uni are "f***ing siao on".
2) these students who are the (probably) the top students from their poly batch do indeed have much higher drive than their JC counterparts. these are observations from many in uni in sg.
3) in poly it doesn just take intelligence to emerge a top candidate, it takes maturity.
4) JC students have 2 pliable options after A levels; go to uni, or go to poly. only a small percent go straight to work. some of the replies here would already show this point.
thank you. that is exactly my point.
Mobius
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I am actually the "siao on" poly one who made it to a local U. But i am not siao on at all in Uni. So i don agree with this generalisation. But wat i do find is that poly students who eventually go to local U has no advantage at all, cos the local Uni focus more on academic excellence, whereas in poly there is more focus on practical hands on. So no doubt we may have a slight advantage during practical sessions, but most of the weightage goes to the tests and exams, very slight and sometimes none of the weightage goes to practical work. So an A level student who excels academically will find it easier to adapt to this environment. I had a hard time adapting to the environment, it took me about a year to adapt.
I have spent 2 years in a local Uni, and known some A level friends,and all told me that Uni life is alot better than JC, whereas I will tell them the opposite that poly life is such a breeze, whereas Uni life is as tough as hell.
I am from the lifesciences, and one thing, I still don understand is that why overseas Uni give exemptions of up to 2 years, whereas local uni doesnt give any exemptions at all. I have friends who go overseas and have graduated and come back to work. And here I am, a student muggin for my exams.
So the thing is that if u are not rich enough to go to a oveseas uni )like me) and plan to go to a local uni, take the A level route,it would be much easier. As u can adapt better, and u wont be like me, so old already still studyin whilee my friends are embarking on their career. So choose carefully.
I have spent 2 years in a local Uni, and known some A level friends,and all told me that Uni life is alot better than JC, whereas I will tell them the opposite that poly life is such a breeze, whereas Uni life is as tough as hell.
I am from the lifesciences, and one thing, I still don understand is that why overseas Uni give exemptions of up to 2 years, whereas local uni doesnt give any exemptions at all. I have friends who go overseas and have graduated and come back to work. And here I am, a student muggin for my exams.
So the thing is that if u are not rich enough to go to a oveseas uni )like me) and plan to go to a local uni, take the A level route,it would be much easier. As u can adapt better, and u wont be like me, so old already still studyin whilee my friends are embarking on their career. So choose carefully.
Mobius
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I would like to clarify on a sterotype that some of u have that poly people who made it to local uni are f**kin siao on . We may look siao on cos we are havin a hard time adjusting to a very different environment so we have to put in extra effort in order to adapt and survive. I mean u wouldnt want to make it to a local uni (after all the effort) and get kicked out because u cant adapt, would u? So we are just puttin in extra effort that's all, not f**kin siao on.
And we may take initiatives in somethings (such as practicals) not because we are siao on but because we may have already learned some of things tat are being taught while we were in poly. But because the local uni doesnt like to give exemptions to us, so we have to sit through the same thing again. I mean the A level people will probably do the same if they were being taught the things they were taught in A levels, right?
And we may take initiatives in somethings (such as practicals) not because we are siao on but because we may have already learned some of things tat are being taught while we were in poly. But because the local uni doesnt like to give exemptions to us, so we have to sit through the same thing again. I mean the A level people will probably do the same if they were being taught the things they were taught in A levels, right?
Uni life in some sense better in some cases worse. i have to take more subjects in uni. But not to worry. Soon..... soon i will be out.
As an A level student, i had a difficult time adjusting to uni life. Really requires self motivation to study as the teachers do not help us out. The competition is tough as there are many foreign students.
In a sense, i feel that the course of study in uni should dictate your choice of JC/Poly. Law and Med are open only to A level holders. For those who are into engineering and archi, poly is probably better.
The local poly standards are high thus when the overseas uni give 2 yrs discount. No point keeping the student longer than necessary.
Singapore education is basically overkill compared to US and OZ
Although our local universities are not world famous unlike harvard and their ilk, the local degrees are widely recognised by professional bodies such as the Institute of Mechanical Engineers.
A local BEng will allow u to be an associate member for IMech whereas u need a Masters from Oxford/ Cambridge.
As an A level student, i had a difficult time adjusting to uni life. Really requires self motivation to study as the teachers do not help us out. The competition is tough as there are many foreign students.
In a sense, i feel that the course of study in uni should dictate your choice of JC/Poly. Law and Med are open only to A level holders. For those who are into engineering and archi, poly is probably better.
The local poly standards are high thus when the overseas uni give 2 yrs discount. No point keeping the student longer than necessary.
Singapore education is basically overkill compared to US and OZ
Although our local universities are not world famous unlike harvard and their ilk, the local degrees are widely recognised by professional bodies such as the Institute of Mechanical Engineers.
A local BEng will allow u to be an associate member for IMech whereas u need a Masters from Oxford/ Cambridge.
serialninja
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Re: Quit JC
you paid for your own JC education?
Darren said:
you paid for your own JC education?
Yah.. now I don't even recall much of TJC anymore haha.... The teacher push like siao, I remember my maths teacher keep forcing me to drop F-maths coz I didn't do well in it , probably was concerned abt the school rankings. (was too busy with Guitar Club, haha) And now they're complaining that JC kids nowadays a lot suffer from depression ... sad to say this, but the only good times I had in JC was playing guitar with my club mates and singing chinese pop songs..
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theblueark
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I hate the way they force you to drop subjects. You're the ffing student, it's your ffing life and your ffing studies.
Happened to a friend of mine, the teachers refused to mark his attendance in F Maths class, then they forced him to drop the subject by saying he never come for lessons.
They irritate me as much as the old Long John Silvers counter people who shout "MAX!!!" when you just order a normal combo 1 meal.
F the stupid grade chasing teachers and principles. Effing F them :evil:
Another big reason why I never regretted going to poly.
Happened to a friend of mine, the teachers refused to mark his attendance in F Maths class, then they forced him to drop the subject by saying he never come for lessons.
They irritate me as much as the old Long John Silvers counter people who shout "MAX!!!" when you just order a normal combo 1 meal.
F the stupid grade chasing teachers and principles. Effing F them :evil:
Another big reason why I never regretted going to poly.
Re: I need time to have credibility?
well. its simple.
watching a movie wastes 2 hours of your life. the impact it may have on your life ? negligble. try remembering that movie 40 years from now.
choosing which path to take in your life ? well, the fact is that you can go out and ask anybody on the street.
the singaporean system does not favour people who flunk the system.your O level certificates expires in 2 years. if you dont do well in poly or a JC education, where would you be ? PSLE ?
i m sure your JC experience of "sex booze and cigarettes" is pure and simple generalisation. if every JC student simply enjoyed sex booze and cigarettes, i m sure the college scene in the US would be pretty much replicated across the board here.
has the system failed you ? as far as i am concerned , the first 3 months arent even real JC life. its like bragging about going to alaska to catch salmon when you have only just picked up the salmon up at a supermarket stall.
to put it bluntly. to know the system, you have to grind and tough it out. ive met entirely brilliant people during my 2 year course in JC. i have met thoroughly lazy and people with very bad attitude problems as well. do they make my experience for the better or for the worse ? to be honest, with my relative youth , i wont know for the better till i come against something else.
to spend time flying to alaska , to trek up to the mountain streams and actually fly fish the salmon is a process. a journey which equips you with something that no amount of money can buy. experience. and only time will tell if that experience is useful.
tell me more about the experience you get when you pick up a packet of salmon from the supermarket. i m defintely sure it dosent represent the actual experience. not in the least bit.
whatever path we chose, its what we gain from it. only in retrospect, in hindsight, that we are truly aware of the significance it has had in our lives. whether JC or poly , to bring this back into context, is so much irrelevant. at the end of the day, its the person that you build up that is of the key importance, not the cog in the singapore economy.
because the person you build is you. yourself. nobody else. no one else. if you screw up your life . its a concious decision. if you dont , thats also a concious decision by a rational sentient being.
Darren, its easy to critique someone, its difficult to acquire maturity.
Darren said:
well. its simple.
watching a movie wastes 2 hours of your life. the impact it may have on your life ? negligble. try remembering that movie 40 years from now.
choosing which path to take in your life ? well, the fact is that you can go out and ask anybody on the street.
the singaporean system does not favour people who flunk the system.your O level certificates expires in 2 years. if you dont do well in poly or a JC education, where would you be ? PSLE ?
i m sure your JC experience of "sex booze and cigarettes" is pure and simple generalisation. if every JC student simply enjoyed sex booze and cigarettes, i m sure the college scene in the US would be pretty much replicated across the board here.
has the system failed you ? as far as i am concerned , the first 3 months arent even real JC life. its like bragging about going to alaska to catch salmon when you have only just picked up the salmon up at a supermarket stall.
to put it bluntly. to know the system, you have to grind and tough it out. ive met entirely brilliant people during my 2 year course in JC. i have met thoroughly lazy and people with very bad attitude problems as well. do they make my experience for the better or for the worse ? to be honest, with my relative youth , i wont know for the better till i come against something else.
to spend time flying to alaska , to trek up to the mountain streams and actually fly fish the salmon is a process. a journey which equips you with something that no amount of money can buy. experience. and only time will tell if that experience is useful.
tell me more about the experience you get when you pick up a packet of salmon from the supermarket. i m defintely sure it dosent represent the actual experience. not in the least bit.
whatever path we chose, its what we gain from it. only in retrospect, in hindsight, that we are truly aware of the significance it has had in our lives. whether JC or poly , to bring this back into context, is so much irrelevant. at the end of the day, its the person that you build up that is of the key importance, not the cog in the singapore economy.
because the person you build is you. yourself. nobody else. no one else. if you screw up your life . its a concious decision. if you dont , thats also a concious decision by a rational sentient being.
Darren, its easy to critique someone, its difficult to acquire maturity.
It's really a matter of personal choice. if you see a course that you like in poly and you qualify, and you feel it's the right choice, then go for it by all means. but if JC subjects interest you more then go to a JC. go talk to people in the JC you're looking at, and talk to people in polytechnics to get balanced, key word being balanced picture.
