Hi all! I’m not posting this to whine, but just to let you all know what this guy is.

aiyo, this thread is gradually becoming a morality and integrity thread. whitestrat and arsony, chill k? i guess we do not want another pair of forumers at loggerhead over someone else's conflict. haha.

i guess arsony is trying to offer a more objective opinion than an opinion that is leaning towards morality and emotions. it does seem a little unfeeling imo, but at the back of my head, being more objective in such a situation offers more and better solutions than any thing else, no?
 
lol, this whole thing is suddenly like a soccer match! oops!

Paiseh....Ok shall go rant in the soccer thread now.....go Man U!
 
I'm joining in this thread:

My view is simple.

When you ask someone for help and when the terms and conditions are laid down, you should stick to it.

If there's black and white, you can be charged for the offence of Cheating under Sec 420 of the Penal Code, Cap 224.

You're lucky uncle is just advicing you.
 
Anyway, i think no point making Soft pay for all this crap. Bandwith...

Just boycott the user can liao le..

I think if this goes on Soft wanna cry for his $$ already..
 
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Let me just emphasize the good points posted by WhiteStrat

=Arsony

The point here is: Leecs offered to HELP someone out of GOODWILL and TRUST. Nevermind how misdirected that trust is. It's still a simple gesture we would ALL like to be able to count on if we needed it. This encounter DISCOURAGES someone like Leecs and the rest of us who would have been willing to help in the first place, someone who needed this sort of help. It also casts a bad light on those who would have been willing to fulfill their end of the bargain.

Ignoring the simple fact that Marxist might or might not have had a credit card available, parents or not, it was a clear case of head bigger than brains, and having the maturity to accept the consequences of one's actions. Now Marxist has apologised, which is a good thing. But in the first place, he should have known that he would be called upon to fulfill his end of the bargain.

To say that Leecs isn't a victim is not correct. He IS a victim. Not of malice, nor of intent, but a victim of the lack of values. He is a victim of a young boy who took his trust foregranted, and did not have the decency to realise the kind of spot he would put someone in. He's 18. If he's old enough for the nation to trust to put a rifle in his hand, giving him the power over life and death, then he's old enough to be hammered by everyone here for this mistake.


You're in your mid 30s, and so am I. I don't know if you have children, but I have a son. I for one hope he grows up to be as generous and as willing to help as someone like Leecs. I hope to God he doesn't pull stunts off like Marxist. I worry everyday about the environment and society that he has to grow up in, and cases like this are both discouraging, and encouraging. I tend to see the goodness in someone like Leecs, and I see the negativity in the values of someone like Marxist.
 
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