Help needed for CIJ Jaguar.

[Vanga]

Hello fellow softies,

There is a CIJ/MIJ Jaguar for sale somewhere around the sales section.

The owner is asking for 1k and this comes with a hardcase as well.

Is there any drawbacks to that particular model that has deterred buyers from relinquishing this lucrative deal?

Do hit me back with responses people

 

[lightice]

The Jag is a little different in terms of how it plays.
It has a short scale - 24" and has 2 circuits instead of just 1 in most guitars.

The bridge for most people is the drawback, you can change it to a TOM bridge for better stability.

But for myself, I like the sound of the jag, and I will definitely get one in the future. Just not at the moment.

 

[edder]

CIJ guitars are well made and the Jaguar no less.

Things to do would be
1) Change bridge to a mustang bridge
2) Change pickups to SD Antiquities OR change to regular strat sized single coils of your choice.
3) String up with at least 10's or 11's to compensate for the short scale and you'll have a winner.

 

[Vanga]

Thanks people for the Input thus far

And where can i get those bridges?

 

[subversion]

Is there any drawbacks to that particular model that has deterred buyers from relinquishing this lucrative deal?

nothing wrong with the Jap Jag (ditto edder- or for any other Jap Fenders which are generally well made). maybe others do not see it as meeting their needs; the reason why it's not snapped up.

 

[Elias]

Hi Vanga, having owned 2 jags, I'd say a thorough setup is most crucial if you it to play comfortably. I'd say 'grab it!' if you're still comfortable after reading these comments

Areas of potential issues:

Bridge
As mentioned by the others, main 'problematic' area is the bridge in which if set up improperly, it can produce buzz, loose screws, strings 'jumping' out of the slot, etc. One alternative to replace it with the Mustang bridge which has a deeper groove/less moving parts involved. Another useful mod is to install a 'buzzstop', which is also a good alternative to reduce the above-mentioned problems.

Pickups
The stock CIJ pickups are more microphonic and feedbacks a tad too easily during high gain applications. If I'm not wrong, it's not potted, so you might want to swap them for the US American Vintage reissue pickups found on the stock US models of other Seymour Duncan jaguar pickups (they include higher output pickups for Jags too ). Personally, I prefer the AV reissue ones having tried the Seymour Duncan ones (I've got a pair for sale! )

Switches
Not really an issue once you gotten used to what each switch does But there's a possibility of accidentally muting your guitar totally during a high-energy performance if you hit the wrong switch *lol* Solution? Do a 'Kurt Cobain' by taping them up with masking tape *LOL*

Tremolo system* newly added
The Jag's tremolo is truely unique and it gives the jag a subtle-yet-distinctive kinda of warble instead of dive bombs kinda effect achieved by Strat style tremolo. The closest thing would be the Bigsby kind of sound. However, there are complaints of the tremolo bar falling out of the socket when the guitar is tilted or turned upside down. A few solutions include taping the end of the bar with scotchstape making it more tight-ftting, or by taking out the tremolo assembly and manually tightening the socket claw

Short Scale
Being a short scale guitar (24"), the neck may feel different to some, mainly shorter distances between the frets. To some, it translates to harder fretting of chords while some welcome the ease. No solution other than getting used to it *lol*

Offset body shape
Well, the body might feel a tad bigger/bulkier to some due to the offset design but personally, It's my favourite shape :mrgreen:

Finally, the mods/setup I've done to my jags include adjustments made to the bridge, shimming the neck, pickup swaps, adding of a buzzstop (to one of the jags), adding a minihumbucker, changed switches and changed a pickguard:

Soundwise, personally I feel it's more 'dirty'/jangly/edgey than the strats and yet, in mid position mode, it has its very special chime-like tone (especially clean). Mildly overdriven, Jags have this unique mid-emphasized tone that can cut any mix, and in high gain situations, they take on another personality that's quite different from other guitars. Ok, I'm biased, so just trust your own ears! *lol*

Anyway, below are the quintessential links I've always relied on when it comes to Jaguars:

Jag-Stang.com - source for jag-stang, jaguar and mustang info
Fender Jaguar - Source for Jaguar info -- www.fenderjaguar.net
http://www.webrocker.de/jaguar/
THE JAZZMASTER AND JAGUAR PAGE

Have fun and hope you'd find the info useful!

 

[Vanga]

Hi Vanga, having owned 2 jags, I'd say a thorough setup is most crucial if you it to play comfortably. I'd say 'grab it!' if you're still comfortable after reading these comments

Areas of potential issues:

Bridge
As mentioned by the others, main 'problematic' area is the bridge in which if set up improperly, it can produce buzz, loose screws, strings 'jumping' out of the slot, etc. One alternative to replace it with the Mustang bridge which has a deeper groove/less moving parts involved. Another useful mod is to install a 'buzzstop', which is also a good alternative to reduce the above-mentioned problems.

Pickups
The stock CIJ pickups are more microphonic and feedbacks a tad too easily during high gain applications. If I'm not wrong, it's not potted, so you might want to swap them for the US American Vintage reissue pickups found on the stock US models of other Seymour Duncan jaguar pickups (they include higher output pickups for Jags too ). Personally, I prefer the AV reissue ones having tried the Seymour Duncan ones (I've got a pair for sale! )

Switches
Not really an issue once you gotten used to what each switch does But there's a possibility of accidentally muting your guitar totally during a high-energy performance if you hit the wrong switch *lol* Solution? Do a 'Kurt Cobain' by taping them up with masking tape *LOL*

Tremolo system* newly added
The Jag's tremolo is truely unique and it gives the jag a subtle-yet-distinctive kinda of warble instead of dive bombs kinda effect achieved by Strat style tremolo. The closest thing would be the Bigsby kind of sound. However, there are complaints of the tremolo bar falling out of the socket when the guitar is tilted or turned upside down. A few solutions include taping the end of the bar with scotchstape making it more tight-ftting, or by taking out the tremolo assembly and manually tightening the socket claw

Short Scale
Being a short scale guitar (24"), the neck may feel different to some, mainly shorter distances between the frets. To some, it translates to harder fretting of chords while some welcome the ease. No solution other than getting used to it *lol*

Offset body shape
Well, the body might feel a tad bigger/bulkier to some due to the offset design but personally, It's my favourite shape :mrgreen:

Finally, the mods/setup I've done to my jags include adjustments made to the bridge, shimming the neck, pickup swaps, adding of a buzzstop (to one of the jags), adding a minihumbucker, changed switches and changed a pickguard:



Soundwise, personally I feel it's more 'dirty'/jangly/edgey than the strats and yet, in mid position mode, it has its very special chime-like tone (especially clean). Mildly overdriven, Jags have this unique mid-emphasized tone that can cut any mix, and in high gain situations, they take on another personality that's quite different from other guitars. Ok, I'm biased, so just trust your own ears! *lol*

Anyway, below are the quintessential links I've always relied on when it comes to Jaguars:

Jag-Stang.com - source for jag-stang, jaguar and mustang info
Fender Jaguar - Source for Jaguar info -- www.fenderjaguar.net
http://www.webrocker.de/jaguar/
THE JAZZMASTER AND JAGUAR PAGE

Have fun and hope you'd find the info useful!

Foooo, owe you one big time time brother

Thanks for the information and the pictures too

 

[Elias]

You're welcome lah Good things must share mah :mrgreen:
Anyway, it's always good to research more before making a purchase. Jaguars never fail to turn heads with all that bling/chrome and switches on them...heh!

 

[Disco Ditto]

You're welcome lah Good things must share mah :mrgreen:
Anyway, it's always good to research more before making a purchase. Jaguars never fail to turn heads with all that bling/chrome and switches on them...heh!

Bro. How much did u get your AV pups plus shipping and installation total?

If you can give me a breakdown it'll be sweet.

And oh yeah the pickguard replacement too.

 

[eclipze]

i like short scale easier to bend... nice round tone.. darker tone than regular 25,5" scale