Guitar using Studio montior

[kezane]

Hi, need help from u guys.. currently my setup is

Electric guitar -cable> Korg muiltfx -cable(headphone)-> ESI Near04..

when i use distortion the sound dun sound quite right.. its like the distortion sound dun wanna come out.. and when i on higher volume its become muddy.. any solution for this? would a usb interface be better? example

Electric guitar -> korg muiltfx -> usb interface -> computer -> sound

or getting a amp is much more better?

thanks guys

 

[THOA]

Could be a number of reasons:

1) Guitar multifx are not known for their great distortion/overdrive sound, so it could possibly the sound of your distortion. Can I ask which Korg mutifx are you using? Have you tried listening the distortion directly through headphones? Perhaps, because of how differently sound travels to your ears when using a headphone as oppose to a monitor speaker, all you actually need is a bit of tweaking on your setting.

2) I have no experience with ESI, but the model you have is not exactly a higher end one. Unlike amps, where tone is really subjective to preference, monitors are more about accuracy and definition. For monitors, it is a seriously a case of "you get what you pay for". How does your favourite cd play on your monitors? Does it sound good to you? Have you auditioned any other monitors with your multifx?

3) Sometimes, it even has to do with cables. I'm not sure if I am accurate with this, but a speaker cable is different from a guitar cable (somebody correct me if I am wrong).

Also, do note that your headphone output, is likely to be in stereo. Are you using a stereo cable or a mono cable to connect your multifx to monitor? I notice that your monitor has XLR input. Perhaps try to connect your multifx to the XLR input of your monitor, to see if there is any improvement.

 

[kezane]

Could be a number of reasons:

1)
Using Korg1500G.. i tried using headphone also.. it sound almost the same.. hmm maybe abit better?

2)
when playing favourite Cd.. it sounds good.. not bad to me? haven audtioned other monitor with my muiltfx

3)
Im using planetwave cables, err not sure whether its stereo or mono.. mine is a near04.. using TRS connection


thanks alot for replying =).. anybody got this problem also?

 

[THOA]

Then it's possible that the built in drive/distortion is not to your liking. You would need to run a separate pedal for drive/distortion. A lot of people have this kind of set up anyway... most multifx owners who don't either have the POD XT Live, or POD X3 or they don't do high gain/distortion stuff.

Another possible reason is that you are using the built in amp modeller. It gets a little bit complicated to describe here. You might want to do a search on amp modellers in here so as to give you an idea about why alot of people don't really favour it.

 

[lester_music]

firstly...is your amp modeller turn on or off....?

cause if it is off...the multiefx unit may expect you to plug into a guitar amp.....not a studio monitor.....the distortion will definitely sounds bad...

even if u plug in a MI Audio or any distortion stomp box into studio monitor..it will not be nice...cause the freq. range may be too wide for guitar sound...

but if the amp modeller is on...the sound will be compressed and simulate to sound like an amp...it will sound slightly better...meant to work this way..u also have to play around with the modeller...

not sure you aware of that..but just hope can help....

 

[kezane]

THOA- the thing is i used to have a Line6 amp.. it sound ok

lester_music- i'm still trying to find out what's a amp modeller.. sorry lol

any cheap solutions for me?

 

[blueprintstudios]

i'd very much like to help but his descriptions of problems abit all over the place. the best thing you can do right now is do a recording whether with a laptop or md whatever of the sound you're hearing through the monitors then we can "diagnose" better.

then again if you said you had a line6 amp that sounds ok, and korg multifx doesn't, maybe it's because line6 has this "special thing" for D.I guitars, one of the better sounding D.I guitar processors around so far.

then also could be the cable.

then again could be the signal chain

you said yours is "Electric guitar -cable> Korg muiltfx -cable(headphone)-> ESI Near04"
that's guitar > pedal > *cable* > monitors. (something could have gone wrong at the *Cable* point.)

how do you listen to your monitors on the PC? maybe you can try

guitar > pedal > your PC soundcard > your DAW software live monitoring of your playing > studio monitors.

 

[kezane]

blueprintstudios - my notebook dun have line-in.. sigh..

how do you listen to your monitors on the PC? maybe you can try - notebook -> usb dac -> speaker

that's guitar > pedal > *cable* > monitors. (something could have gone wrong at the *Cable* point.) ... hmm example like?

thanks alot for your help, guess i still got alot stuff to read up didnt know there is so much things.. haha =)

 

[lester_music]

amp modeller is to simulate certain amp sounds....like a 4x12,2x12, bassman ..etc....it can sound pretty good....as good as the real thing if u tweak well enough using your EQ from your mixer....

they are very useful if u need to use headphones or studio monitors...

to put in simple terms, they will convert your studio monitors into guitar amp...hehehe

but if u r using a guitar amp..then u don't need the amp modeller..u can turn it off....

which model of korg multiefx r u using?

 

[kezane]

currently using korg1500g. any idea how much is a amp modeller? or any model to recommend? thanks

 

[dir]

You can use software modelers. some of them are highly advanced, such as Amplitube 2, Guitar Rig 3 and Peavey Revalver MKIII. there are also free high quality vst's around such as the simul analog guitar suite: http://www.simulanalog.org/

If you just want something simple without a lot of tweaking, then I recommend something such as a line 6 Toneport. There are quite a few models that you can choose from to serve your needs. You can also use it together with your multifx and get some decent to great sounds. Citymusic sells them.

 

[blueprintstudios]

>>>>guitar > pedal > *cable* > monitors. (something could have gone wrong at the *Cable* point.) ... hmm example like?

like what others say, there's line level/speaker level etc. could be impedance mismatch etc also.

if i'm not wrong korg 1500 HAS amp modelling.

if your notebook no line input how about mic input? borrow your friend's laptop or someone's computer to try test?

guitar > korg 1500g > 1/4jack to 1/8earphone jack adapter > computer/pc / DAW

 

[kezane]

if your notebook no line input how about mic input? borrow your friend's laptop or someone's computer to try test?

have mic input.. hmm can plug in there? will find someone notebook and try.. thanks man

 

[blueprintstudios]

yes, can plug into the mic, but will be noisy i think. better than nothing

 

[lester_music]

Actually to plug direct into studio monitor is usually ok...cause generally they are all line input...

Some studio monitor has both line and mic input(so you can have a choice of high and low impedance)......if they did not indicate....it is usually a line input..which 99% of the time is ok to plug in instrument cable...


The AX1500 does comes with built-in amp modelling...

Check this out:

"With vintage and modern, closed and open-back cabinet models that run the gamut from 4x12 stacks to 1x8 combos, the AX1500G is one incredibly versatile tone machine"

I used it before and I remember that it comes with...

 

[THOA]

THOA- the thing is i used to have a Line6 amp.. it sound ok

If it can sound ok on a Line 6 amp, then HIGH probability you didn't have your amp modeller on.

I recommend reading your manual again... if you purchse it with one.

If not, do a search and download.