guitar refinishing help.

I trust PRS more than that shop. 8)

But you are talking about a lot of money. Shipping with your hardcase (duh) will cost you like 300SGD - 400SGD one way, if I can recall a previous quote from Singpost.

Get your money back, don't go back to that shop. Live with the finish...

And... about the furniture guy suggestion.... it doesn't make sense that a furniture guy can finish a guitar properly, with just the right amount of thickness and all the other minor details... furniture not for tone leh.. for looks.
 
just watch the dude refinishing guitars by spraying them in the corridor outside the shop with a rattle can...nuff said.
 
ShredCow said:
... furniture not for tone leh.. for looks.
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Firstly, thin finishes look better on woods. If it was really for tone, PRS would use a far thinner finish than what they have right now. Probably very few PRS uses want their finishes dented and in the guitar production line, the 'mexican' dude finishing the guitar probably doesn't think about the tone at all.
 
okay bopakeh, then you can send your guitars to some furniture dude. :lol:

I'm sure you can get some furniture guy to refinish your guitar... but why not get someone who can do it properly , with the right thin-ness and stuff?
 
So what was a few tiny inperfections is now something you can't live with???
I would send it to PRS for a factory refin.

Unless it sounds magical, I would dump it. There are literally thousands of PRS brazilians (500 CU22's, 500 CU24s..etc). And at $5k, it ain't no private stock or anything really collectible.

bluepowder
its like telling your kid...oh cmon kid its ok...those 3rd degree burns on your hand dun matter..u can still use it
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...that is the stupidest and most pathetic things I've heard. If it plays and sounds good then that's all that should matter to a player. We all like beautiful things but if yur vanity cannot live with an imperfect looking guitar then yur more of a a poser/collector than a player.

If he was alive you go to SRV and tell him was a real loser cause his #1 has virtually no finish and looks like something people throw in rubbish bin right?
 
LimpPisskit - This is a guitar I worked my holidays over for. Try slogging at cold storage at $4.30 per hour and see how many hours make up 5.5k =D True there are alot of brazilian series, but they are not available first hand anymore. It makes the difference to me =) Anyway my guitar has sentimental value so yups nothing can ever replace it anyway.

I've gotten Malcolm to take a look at it, in a word of fairness to the shop, he is certain that they have already done to their best of ability. I've settled the issue, making a 50:50 payment and it was done graciously by the shop as well.

Edit: They have offered me to redo the job but I've turned them down.

The thing is I've gotten a few extra dents from the shop for nothing. Because now I have to do the final polishing myself and the layer of coating done by the shop is simply flaking off.

Email from PRS - They have neither the time nor manpower to do non-warranty repairs SO they recommended me someone named Paul Miles. I have not yet received an email from him.

Furniture finishing is different. Not only does thinness affect sound but the quality of finish used is also crucial.

Anyway all in all, I am satisfied with the shop in the way they handled their mistakes. I would personally not take it as a grudge against them, nor advise anyone NOT to go to them, but be sure that their work quality and your expectations are met and all should be well.
 
Yups. It's a good thing it's flaking off in fact, but that's only because I'm using a fine scratch remover, namely Autoglym Paint Renovator. What Malcolm is recommending me to do is remove the new finish, and add on a really well done job of french polishing and it should turn out to be great =) The thing about french polishing is that it sticks to the old guitar finish extremely well unlike spraying a new coat of poly or acrylic urethane. The thing with these synthetic finishes is that once it's cured it's extremely or should I say impossible to get a new coat to bond chemically with it.
 
i've dealt with John Ingram before when I was in the States.

Got my PRS sweet switch installed for my old Custom24. He's the BEST guy to do the refinish IMO.
 
Hey repulse87 that's realli cool! But what John Ingram said if he was me was to live with it. I forsee costs over 1k if I do really send it over to the states. Haha maybe one day when I'm rich enough. For now I'll sitck to Malcolm's french polish =)

ShredCow-Hey dude I've actualli never really touched a guitar with french polish before! :oops:

Phil-Bleah it was a tough lesson but hey I became alot better friends with Malcolm =)
 
bopakeh, the point is that the furniture guy doesn't have the necessary skills or know-how on how to do it properly on a guitar. Nothing about the method involved.

Of course, if you got some "experienced" furniture finish guy, I'm sure he can adapt to a guitar within a reasonable amount of time.
 
The process is the same if you know anything about french polishing. Some ppl don't use rottenstone. Some use mineral oil, some use other combinations of oils etc. Which produces better tone? No one can really tell. How the hell do measure the thickness of a french polish finish anyway. Its more art than science.

Watch 'french polishing for guitar makers' by Louis Fernandez and make your own conclusions. He learnt french polishing from cabinet makers btw. The type of finish on an electric guitar is generally irrelevant as far as tone is concerned as long as the finish is keep relatively thin. PRS btw has a pretty thick finish and still can sound pretty darn good. You can induce based on certain variables, but deductions are quite impossible.
 
I'm comfortable with most things, as long its persued with common sense, logic and sound knowledge. What I'm uncomfortable with is replies which lack salient points and facts, which throws everything back into the 'whatever' pleases you realm.
 
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