Guitar cables
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loldude333
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Aren't most cables the same tonewise? I'd think you could play anything through 'em. I like the Tonedrive ones Mike has, very clear and durable.
dudelove
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Someone told you that? Telephone looking cables are called coiley cables and they are anything but bright. So much cable length means higher capacitance means more treble rolled off
@loldude333
It really takes quite some effort to tell that cables sound different. You really need to sit down and hear them one by one so its quite a tiresome thing. So normally I do not bother about what cables let in more high mids, low mids bla bla, I just make sure that I use cables with as low capacitance as possible so that I lose less high end. If you have 10 true bypass pedals, and you use those cheap coloured patch cables, and cheap cables from the board to amp and board to guitar I can garantee your tone will sound like mud. Then plug straight into the amp without the pedalboard. I assure you the difference is VAST.
These are some nice articles about cables and whatnot.
http://www.lavacable.com/cable101.html
And if you wanna read up about what cables sound like what
http://www.lavacable.com/buying.html
PatheinRaindropMoe
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music choices, doesnt dictate cable choices, preference of sound chanracteristic, knowledge of brand(internet gear forum worshippers) and how much money one has, can have a bigger impact. There are way too many music which geetarers prolly wont listen or like or having any geetar instruments in it. If music choices affect cable choices, music with no geetars prolly will suffer.
As for the different kind of cable which accentuate certain frequencies, might not be that, but just that the previous cable is hindering what we should be hearing in the first place. The so called purest of geetar tone that some love so much.
That said, isnt it interesting as well, how some cables seem to accentuate different frequency band and that how much of these so call "tone" is actually the actual tone of the instrument without any colouring from cables to quality of plug, effects and so on. After all, lotsa geetarers like to talk about tone so much, just wondering how much tone is tone, with plenty of things that can put in these colours.
As for the different kind of cable which accentuate certain frequencies, might not be that, but just that the previous cable is hindering what we should be hearing in the first place. The so called purest of geetar tone that some love so much.
That said, isnt it interesting as well, how some cables seem to accentuate different frequency band and that how much of these so call "tone" is actually the actual tone of the instrument without any colouring from cables to quality of plug, effects and so on. After all, lotsa geetarers like to talk about tone so much, just wondering how much tone is tone, with plenty of things that can put in these colours.
Likui
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no telephone is what i say because i like
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subversion
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simple requirement for me: my cable must be noiseless/ low-noise. currently using Canare cables + Amphenol plugs.
EugeneSmasher
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Like loldude333, I'm a big fan of the Tone Drive cables at Standard Value/SV guitars. Been using mine for years and no problems at all. I also use Neutrik Horizon cables and they're superb too. Most important thing for me is that they are quiet, because if there are tonal differences, you can probably E.Q. those using your amp/pedals/guitar.
I used to play hard rock and metal, but I'm playing clean stuff these days. My Tone Drive and Neutrik Horizon cables work splendidly for both.
I used to play hard rock and metal, but I'm playing clean stuff these days. My Tone Drive and Neutrik Horizon cables work splendidly for both.
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carboxymoron
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Agreed, just make sure they're quiet and don't compromise the basic sound quality. Whether those George L, Bullet, Lava or whatever cables have extra magic mojo, nobody will hear except yourself in your bedroom. I'm using a mix of Canare and Mogami cables with Amphenol or flat angled plugs, all done by TYMC.
loldude333
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@dudelove: Thanks for the info dude, yeah i have heard differences before but they're so subtle i don't really count it as affecting my tone. My church uses a mixture of Canare GS6 with Amphenol heads and some $7 Kabletek cables, there isn't much difference tonewise, the only thing i can tell is that the Kabletek ones sound more 'padded'.
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dudelove
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Yeah but its much more complicated than just the cables bro.. You have so many other factors involved such as buffers and everything. So as a rule of thumb for me, use low capacitance cables, have at least one buffer if your whole board is true bypass. If you plug your guitar straight into the amp, well, then don't give a sh*t, just find a reliable cable that doesn't fail from the wears and tear or stage use.
loldude333
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Cool man, thanks! I'll go do some research after 'A' levels hahaha.
Likui
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well subtle to you may be a lot diff to other ppl. Especially if someone use Analysis plus or cardas cable or kimble kable or cables around their price range. Surely cables must have meant something to them if not they would use the money to buy an amp or new guitar. Yea those kinds of cables 3m can buy u a guitar or amp lol
And also 1 more thing power cables also do affect sound, power cables to amps and to effect pedals.
Well you guys feel free to share about the power cables too.
carboxymoron
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The power supply can affect the sound. Batteries vs AC or DC, the exact voltage provided and how consistent it is... hence you'll hear about voltage "starving" of certain pedals (usually fuzzes) and how different types of batteries give different sound. But power cables? I call bullshit.
Likui
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Yes really u have to try to believe it. if not ppl won't invest soo much money on high end power cables.
http://locus-design.com/powercord.html
http://www.kimber.com/products/powerkords/
http://www.analysis-plus.com/pro_powercable.html
I'm sure this kind of power cables does meant a lot to someone if not why would they get it if they can get $10 kind of power cables?
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Amano
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Actually the only 'useful' part of it is the external RF rejection, but in SG we do not have radar antennas all over the place, so this is practically redundant unless you play next to an antenna (or purposely tie a HP on it). For the low DC insulation, it helps speed up electric flow to near the speed of light. Dielectric-wise it is useless for our usage, cause our AC power is 50Hz, not 8kHz. There is no 'high' sparkle tones in mains, maybe unless you work in NASA that is =p
In summary, don't waste your precious money that is unpractical. And oh yea, there is something called 'marketing hype' that indirectly 'cheat' people feelings and knowledge.
In summary, don't waste your precious money that is unpractical. And oh yea, there is something called 'marketing hype' that indirectly 'cheat' people feelings and knowledge.
carboxymoron
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These are all high end products that claim technical superiority in terms of quality components, reliability etc... Better shielding, new technology will result in lower noise. But seriously talking about better sound or "tone"? Have you tried it? 'Cause you keep talking about "someone" or "pple" who use these extravagant audio and power cables.
Likui
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yea soon maybe dec or early next yr
donniedragon
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Planet Waves
I'd recommend Planet Waves. Really worth the price for its quality & its lifetime guarantee. Recommended for those heavy usage.
Mine also has a mute switch. It comes in handy at times when u need to grab the right key or chords on the stage.
Hope it helps.
I'd recommend Planet Waves. Really worth the price for its quality & its lifetime guarantee. Recommended for those heavy usage.
Mine also has a mute switch. It comes in handy at times when u need to grab the right key or chords on the stage.
Hope it helps.
