Fender Neck.....

Vaiyen said:
in the spirit of Fair Comment, I'll say this:
is there even the most remote likelilhood that some blur guy will go to GC, see the Allparts neck with the Fender decals on them, mistake them for authentic Fender necks, and then plop down some cash based on this msconceived notion?

Is this situation plausible?
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Anything is possible. If u can think of it, it can happen. However, allparts necks have this big stamping at the heel - 'ALLPARTS, LICENSED BY FENDER' Unless the guy is a half wit, I don't think anyone can mistake the neck for a genuine Fender one.

Is it illegal to paste Fender decals? How about those fender decals on motorcycles and cars? Illegal? It is probably only illegal insofar that the retailer passes it off as a genuine Fender product. All Fender licensed necks have slightly 'off' dimensions from their fender counter parts. Just check the heel of the warmoth guitars and you'll know.

Like Mikemann has said, is it wrong when a customer gives the retailer a decal and gets him to fix it on? Who is wrong here? The supplier of the decal? The customer? Or the retailer? Is anyone even wrong in the first place? It's amazing how some forum members rant without any backup to their assertions. Without reference to anyone, knowing what one is saying, doesn't mean it is right.
 
Okie

Hey guys,

Okie this is an account of what I saw in the shop - While I was asking the owner about some upgrades (not regarding to Fender cuz my guit is a ESP LTD), a fresh, blank neck with no brand tag on it is laid on the table. He answered my question while dipping a Fender decal in the water & then slide it over to the blank neck. May I know if this is legal? Pls enlighten me :)

*Note: for those people who dun understand, im not accusing but checking if it's okie to do so?
 
Erm

ABlue: pasting a company decal on anything is perfectly fine. it can be viewed as advertising or publicity. but pasting a company decal e.g. ESP on a product e.g. Brandless Guitar body & den re-selling it at a high price lyk dat of an ESP guit. wont it be considered fraud?

do consider my train of thoughts. im not coming from an accusing point of view, but more of a curiosity spirit.
 
I guess it depends on the agreement between GC and Fender. but back to the thread topic, in addition to ordering an MIJ/MIM/MIA neck and waiting for it to arrive, you can try Allparts or Warmouth necks.

i know some people who assemble/build (depending on whether the person cuts the body himself) some really top grade guitars that easily rival the custom shop Fenders, and they use Warmouth necks. so if you want to get a really great Strat/Tele-type neck, you may want to consider alternatives such as Allparts and Warmouth. they're not bad copies, they're kinda like copies that are even better than the originals.
 
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neuro182 said:
ABlue: pasting a company decal on anything is perfectly fine. it can be viewed as advertising or publicity. but pasting a company decal e.g. ESP on a product e.g. Brandless Guitar body & den re-selling it at a high price lyk dat of an ESP guit. wont it be considered fraud?

do consider my train of thoughts. im not coming from an accusing point of view, but more of a curiosity spirit.
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The price is determined by both buyer and seller. If the buyer is willing, why not? It would be fraud if and only if, the seller passes it off as an orginal ESP. If someone buys it for 500 Euros, it just means he is stupid. The price is inconsequential.
 
Oh

I get wat u mean - so if e consumer is not wise enuff or he doesnt check, then he'd get conned easily.

question: wat if consumer like me doesnt noe how to check for certain aspects of an original guitar, wat should we do?
 
get wat u mean - so if e consumer is not wise enuff or he doesnt check, then he'd get conned easily.

question: wat if consumer like me doesnt noe how to check for certain aspects of an original guitar, wat should we do?
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That's what this forum is for.. to inform consumers. Its the same everywhere, be it buying cars or buying guitars, you just have to take it upon yourself to be informed. Of course, not everyone started out to be experts. If you feel that you're not very comfortable with an item, or you're not sure whether its the real deal or not, can always ask someone to help you. I'm sure alot of the informed forummers here will be there to lend a hand if you need help, that includes mikemann as well.

:D Take it easy dude, no worries..
 
i guess if you feel that you kenna conned, you could always take it to the CASE. They are supposed to be the regulators.
 
I needed to get a strat neck once but then i felt that the price offered was too high for me. From what i read, the necks sold are fender licsensed. This means that Warmoth and Allparts have the permission to accurately reproduce a fender neck in terms of physical dimensions. The decal pasting seems to be the main point of contention. It could well be legal if the decals were supplied by Fender itself.
 
whoa .. alot of mud stirring going up around here..

just a curious OT question :

fender necks e.g tele , strat , basses .. how come certain years have larger headstocks , certain years have smaller headstocks ?

does size of headstock affect the inherent musicality of the guitar ? or are they merely athestics ?
 
The large headstock do make the guitar look much sexier after prolong looking.

Sigh.....Anyway, it seems that what seem to be a can of worms being opened by someone, has not only being crawling about, but stirred and tossed all over as well.

I'd like to remind all to be considerate to any party involved in such a "mud slinging fest". I for one have always advocate having a neutral stand when dealers are involved. Not only GC, since I am a good friend of the proprietor. Also in other posts putting SL, davis, GW, boon, bmc, SC...etc into the spotlight.

Unless it has actually happened to me, and I am willing to stand in a court of law to testify. IT's never nice to speculate on things that will get any dealer into trouble. It does not do you or anyone any good anyway. Imagine it being able to hurt the musicians industry indirectly. It's not easy being a dealer in the first place, be it small time or big.

Can you imagine, not being able to walk into a shop, see and choose (from a whole range of products) an authorised replacement neck for your guitar. Not to mention feel and finger it first, also can ask the dealer more stuff about it, bargain for a better price. Deal it there and then, get it fixed on your current git and collect it all in the same day.

IF there is no dealer, then its only: choose from a picture, place the order, pay first, cost more anyway since they do not stock it (logically). Wait 2weeks, 1month or sometime even more than 3months. Get the neck, inspect it. Like it or not, you don't seem to have any other choice either.

Surf with a heart, just like you would in the real world.

Peace
8)
 
!?!

mikemann: i tink u r overly-sensitive. u haf went to e place whr no one wld go. but i admire ur advocation of neutral stand. i mean whr name & reputations are concerned, we'll all take neutral stand.

So jus relax & surf with a "relaxed" heart, like you would in Reality.
 
Boy.... it's not I am overly sensitive. You are still a bit young, somethings with age you will understand. If life is as you put it so easy and straightforward, world peace would already been achieved a long time ago.

Basically, to put it bluntly, bird bird actions begets bird bird consequence. So we must strive not to be a bird bird person, unless we want bird bird things happening to ourselves often.

Anyway, I have said more than enough already. I do apologise if my words are a bit harsh, as I came from place of hard knocks.

This will be my last post to this tread, sorry if I went off-topic a few times. good day to all.

Peace.
8)
 
omg bird bird. hokkien man LOL. relax lah mike and neuro.

we're fellow softies. relaxxxxxxxxxxxxx.


eh i just went citymusic, sia la they still have a lot of soft t shirts sia. black and white.


those wanna buy kin go buy. lol
 
Newbie

Newbie: i super relax liao, but he's e one not relaxing. say i boy, den say i anyhow accuse people zzz i realli got nothing to say. now whois accusing who?

SOFT tees? Maybe we should custom make it w our nick & name :)
 
k la k laaa. enufff. wa laooooo. -uses the force-


haha ok relax. mmm


a lot leh serious. the soft outing all wear the shirt la? can?wahha cool sia.

like army like that, same uniform. woot walk in east coast sure zai =X
 
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