Fender MIM vs American Std

christoh

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I saw the following thread re: Fender guitars...


MIM Standard -> American Traditional -> Highway1 -> American Standard/Series.


Can someone please help and explain this to me? Does this mean it's the same? MIM Std = American Trad = American Std.

Am getting confused.


If I've bought a American Trad tele say, does this mean it's the same as an MIM Std tele?

Cheers
 
MIM and MIA have different quality which obviously shows that the MIA is better than MIM.but if you get the earlier MIM heard that its almost as good as an MIA.
 
Bleah.. Quality quality quality..
If it sings it's good! If you can play it it's good! If you like it it's good!
Made in China? WHO CARES?
Made in America? SOOOO?
It's not quality.. Never about quality.. It's about quality CONTROL..
Don't be surprised if you get a bloody good MIC Epi, or a sucky MIA Gibbie..
And thread starter.. It's not the same.. Just made in different countries, different series and wood perhaps..
And the thread.. Where did you read it?
I find other websites, especially non-local ones to be too hypocritical..
"Solid-state sucks! Tube is the sex!"
"Nothing better than a mesa"
"Epiphone and squier are crap"
"ESP guitars can do anything.. Fender sucks anyways"
"You can't go wrong with a PRS"
Good God.. For the years I hang around UG forums before I found Soft, I almost got brainwashed by their cynical opinions based on BRAND name..
 
UG i the crap.the place where a wise man can go crazy in a day.well godspeed64 pretty much what you say is true.oh well.
 
LOL UG RULES!!

the different between a standard MIM compared to a MIA is
Quality Of Wood
Quality Of Metal Used
Quality Control
Better Pickups

the difference between a MIA standard to a MIA Reissue 57/62
Old Style Of Trem Bridge
Nitro Finsh On Body And Neck !
 
apparently the american traditional guitars are MIM bodies and necks with the hardware inferior than MIM's hardware, perhaps the same hardware as squier. then the headstock just put made in usa. go figure.
 
apparently the american traditional guitars are MIM bodies and necks with the hardware inferior than MIM's hardware, perhaps the same hardware as squier. then the headstock just put made in usa. go figure.

That is bullshit.

MIM's and some CIJ's are using zinc blocks in their trems. MIA AVRIs are using SS blocks.

The pickups for the AVRIs are using the 57/62s while the MIMs are using so called "vintage styled" pups.

The AVRIs use Kluson-like Gotohs. the MIM 60s uses PING.

AVRIs use complete slabs with a maximum of 2 to 3 piece alder bodies. The MIM bodies are BLOCKS of alder wood glued together where there may be as many as 5 to 7 pieces of wood stuck together to make one body like a jigsaw puzzle.

Whoever told you the above information is sorely mistaken.

Read this for more info: http://www.guitarstop.com/tour/guitar.htm
 
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That is bullshit.

MIM's and some CIJ's are using zinc blocks in their trems. MIA AVRIs are using SS blocks.

The pickups for the AVRIs are using the 57/62s while the MIMs are using so called "vintage styled" pups.

The AVRIs use Kluson-like Gotohs. the MIM 60s uses PING.

AVRIs use complete slabs with a maximum of 2 to 3 piece alder bodies. The MIM bodies are BLOCKS of alder wood glued together where there may be as many as 5 to 7 pieces of wood stuck together to make one body like a jigsaw puzzle.

Whoever told you the above information is sorely mistaken.

Read this for more info: http://www.guitarstop.com/tour/guitar.htm

relax. i'm not talking about vintage reissue. i'm talking about AMERICAN TRADITIONAL. don't need to get worked up.
 
relax. i'm not talking about vintage reissue. i'm talking about AMERICAN TRADITIONAL. don't need to get worked up.

What is American Traditional?:rolleyes: There's either the American, American Deluxe, Vintage Hotrod and American Vintage. American Standard was renamed to American in the last few years.
 
What is American Traditional?:rolleyes: There's either the American, American Deluxe, Vintage Hotrod and American Vintage. American Standard was renamed to American in the last few years.

i suggest you go do some reading up first before embarrasing yourself further.
 
i suggest you go do some reading up first before embarrasing yourself further.

You're talking about a discontinued model, which is ridiculously irrelevant for discussion in this case, which is still bullshit.

Made in the late 90s and no longer in circulation, unless you buy 2nd hand. It's not even listed on the Fender site anymore. They were hardtails, and that was done to emulate those on the late 50s that emerged on only one colour at that time.

Yes, it was "MIA", but it's the same MIA type as the Highway 1, and honestly? That's not exactly MIA. It was mainly marketing hype.

So you'd bring a discontinued model into discussion for argument's sake instead of keeping the subjects current and relevant? :rolleyes:

It's like saying the old Fender bullet rules over the current Squier bullet... Damn!
 
You're talking about a discontinued model, which is ridiculously irrelevant for discussion in this case.

Made in the late 90s and no longer in circulation, unless you buy 2nd hand. It's not even listed on the Fender site anymore. They were hardtails, and that was done to emulate those on the late 50s that emerged on only one colour at that time.

Yes, it was "MIA", but it's the same MIA type as the Highway 1, and honestly? That's not exactly MIA. It was mainly marketing hype.

So you'd bring a discontinued model into discussion for argument's sake instead of keeping the subjects current and relevant? :rolleyes:

It's like saying the old Fender bullet rules over the current Squier bullet... Damn!

1) threadstarter started this thread asking about AMERICAN TRADITIONAL guitars. he specifically wanted to know if he bought a american traditional, is it equivalent to a mim standard.

2) i offer him advise based on what i know about AMERICAN TRADITIONAL. that basically american traditional is mim body/neck with squier hardware

3) you then come in and mistake/associate/liken the AMERICAN TRADITIONAL to be AMERICAN VINTAGE REISSUE. seriously i don't know how any cockanathan can mistake american traditional to be american vintage reissue. noob maybe?

4) you then blast what i said about AMERICAN TRADITIONAL. dismiss what i said as "bullshit", all the while describing the american vintage reissue as though they are american traditional. making a whole show of your fender knowledge without realising that you missed the point entirely, with totally irrelevant points that don't help the threadstarter, cos he obviously didn't ask about vintage reissues. and what you said will only serve to confuse him further cos any person reading your post will think american traditional = american vintage reissue = good

5) i tell you to relax and calm down. i point out to you that i'm talking about american traditional and not vintage reissue which i dunno how you draw the association to cos they are entirely different stuff.

6) then you being the so called "expert" in your fender stuff comes up with sarcasm and rolling of eyes, asking what is american traditional sarcastically.

7) bewildered that an "expert" like you don't even know about it after all the bravado about your vintage reissue, i suggest you go read up on it before embarrassing yourself further.

8) you then obviously went to do some reading up of american traditional, which is good

9) but you still continued to embarrass yourself further. saying discussing about american traditional is totally irrelevant for discussion when you are the one who is making posts that are totally irrelevant to this discussion in the first place.

10) you say i bring a discontinued model in for "argument's sake"? good grief. threadstarter himself asked about this discontinued model, i provided the answers, simple. you are the one who brought in an entirely different line of fender guitars just for argument's sake (think: ironic!) and not helping threadstarter at all! in fact you only serve to confuse him further, cos he may think american traditional = american vintage reissue.

11) you say i'm like saying the old fender bullet rules over the current squier bullet, guess what, its you yourself and no one else who fits into this analogy.

so if you don't know what shit you are talking, shut up. don't act smart. when people ask you to relax after you fumble so as to save you from further embarrassing yourself, you relax. you don't take it as a sign of weakness on the other party's part and still try to "salvage" your lost ego and mistake by exerting more irrelevant knowledge and continuing that stupid silly assholic "holier than thou mightier than you" stinky attitude.
 
Say what you want about wood this and pups that but my experience has been that the MIA and the MIJ have more oomph than the MIM, especially in the mids.

But if you're going to stuff any one of those through some heavy-duty distortion than perhaps it won't make a difference to you. A Strat is beautiful and needs its own space. Oftentimes, you just go with the flow.

If you're a serious buyer, I doubt that they will refrain you form trying out the various models while you're at the store.

Cheers
RoRK
 
Hi yeah,

Whitestrat, thanks for your input.
VH, thanks much for yours...! yes I did ask abt American TRADITIONAL becos someone wanted to sell one. Just wasn't sure about it. Anyway, it was sold to someone else already. Oh well... i guess shd strike while the iron is hot...

Rork, yeah, I've been going around trying out Teles, but still can't seem to find any that's really like "calls out" to me, you know? And I know pple have said this before but those guys at SLM in Bras Basah aren't very helpful in that dept are they...

I guess I should start another thread about where I can get good help with getting a tele?
 
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Ah! My bad. I tot it was a Strat that you were after. What is it that you are after? Maybe it's not even a Tele? Throw some names of Tele players and perhaps that will get you somewhere with the sales people.

It sounds like you've got something in mind/sound, so let them know. You may get lucky.

Good Luck!
RoRK
 
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