Just to reiterate on the earlier postings. But Im SURE That this guy is selling fake guitars for sure. He claims that his jems come from indonesia and china. and they retail at 1.2K for the jem7vwh models and jem77v models. And he claims that they are 99 percent real wif `custom made pickups` not evos. How sucky can his lying be. It like if new soft members were to buy from him they would end up losing 1.2k which could be used to buy a perfectly good prestige second hand. Please give comments as to how this guy can be dealt with. And if you guys are the members of any other forums such as G4C please warn them as well about this victor wong guy. AND PLEASE PLEASE DUN BUY FROM HIM. thanks
Fake guitar seller victorwong
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EugeneSmasher
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His nick here is victorwong?
I'm also on G4c forums but I don't know his usernick there though.
I'm also on G4c forums but I don't know his usernick there though.
velvetrevolver
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can DONT open a thread each time the scammer posts something new? just click on 'report post' button. CAN?
the previous thread was already opened for ppl to read. i dont see the point in opening a new one. if anything, you're making the scammer aware that ppl are already in-the-know that he is selling fake goods. how is james or the authorities gonna clamp down on the fake guitar seller when his cover has been blown?
the previous thread was already opened for ppl to read. i dont see the point in opening a new one. if anything, you're making the scammer aware that ppl are already in-the-know that he is selling fake goods. how is james or the authorities gonna clamp down on the fake guitar seller when his cover has been blown?
theliverevolution
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I think we've heard more than enough of this fella already. Whether he cheats people or not is the question. As explained by velvetrevolver, if you think this is a cheat, click on the red triangle with the exclaimation mark in the middle. THis is to report posts.
And since this posts have been up for some time, I do not see the neccessity to bring up an entirely new post. Furthermore, I do not think that you bought the product, so there is no reason to bring it up and blow it up.
Perhaps, can you also tell us in what way do you think he's cheating you?
Cheers!
P.S:
What are the current market rates for the two guitars in question? The ORIGINAL IBANEZ ones, that is
And since this posts have been up for some time, I do not see the neccessity to bring up an entirely new post. Furthermore, I do not think that you bought the product, so there is no reason to bring it up and blow it up.
Perhaps, can you also tell us in what way do you think he's cheating you?
Cheers!
P.S:
What are the current market rates for the two guitars in question? The ORIGINAL IBANEZ ones, that is
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velvetrevolver
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hey man, just for you.. if other ppl, i ask them to search themselves. 
http://soft.com.sg/forum/feedback-suggestion/122905-scam-fake-watch.html
http://soft.com.sg/forum/feedback-suggestion/122905-scam-fake-watch.html
velvetrevolver
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theliverevolution = im not a big ibanez fan, but im guessing an ibanez jem is somewhere around the 5k region? i could be wrong, though.
tim098
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Dude, the TS is trying to warn OTHER USERS OF THIS FORUM. How does pressing your marvellous triangular 'report' button help other users who might have happened to see his post and decide to save his contact details to follow up with a purchase, BEFORE James can ban him?
And if such a situation ever happened to you, you would be the one bitching to your friends about how some bugger scammed you while you never saw it coming,
And if such a situation ever happened to you, you would be the one bitching to your friends about how some bugger scammed you while you never saw it coming,
teokiatuan
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$3.5k -
doggieshaman
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if i am not wrong, do you guys remember a user called victorbestwong who imported replicas from some chinese webby thing? is it the same person?
Yep, sounds a bit familiar. If his intention is to deceive buyers into thinking they are buying originals, it is already a criminal offence punishable by imprisonment.
velvetrevolver
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Dude, the TS is trying to warn OTHER USERS OF THIS FORUM. How does pressing your marvellous triangular 'report' button help other users who might have happened to see his post and decide to save his contact details to follow up with a purchase, BEFORE James can ban him?
And if such a situation ever happened to you, you would be the one bitching to your friends about how some bugger scammed you while you never saw it coming,
tim098, you sure seem to have some issues against me dont you? right from geraldwow case till now eh? im cool with it. im hiding behind a computer screen and so are you. 8)
anyways, i've already provided a link, which was already talking bout that particular guy. http://soft.com.sg/forum/feedback-suggestion/122905-scam-fake-watch.html (in case you didnt open your eyes)
if u were to follow another link in the link i gave you, you would see james was trying to clamp down on the fake guitar seller. a quick search for his posts from his profile page shows me that, at the time i'm typing this, 346 views. so wat, 346 people saw it, and all 346 people post about it, claiming its a fake?? ridiculous, no? even half of 346 would be a lovelovelovelove lot.
look, if someone is stupid enuf to buy that guitar, for that price, and found out its fake, den dont come bitching man! should have done your homework, right?? like i said, im not an ibanez user, but i figured it was around 5k. teokiatuan corrected me to 3.5k (thanks bro)... so you see, if you suspect something is wrong with the price, then dont buy it! and why open another thread? so that the fake seller knows that people here know about him? if he knows it already, he'll prob use another nick some months later when topic has died down, or use a proxy to hide his ip address so that he is untraceable or watever...then how is james or the authorities gonna clamp down on him?
bottom line is,
while u may claim to "care" for other forum users, there are times when u need to be discreet. no point opening multiple threads on stuff like this. it will only let the seller know people are on the move for him. if the press and media keeps reporting on the whereabouts of their u.s. military's tactics and movements, saddam hussein would be still alive right now and using nerve gases on people he doesnt like.
Sylash
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+1
Well tim098.. What velvet's trying to say is... As much as softees should be warned, we should be smart 'bout the situation. If he doesn't get caught, it'll just be a vicious cycle of him coming back to scam and people complaining and da da da da... That's worse than him getting caught yes?
mockingbird
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+1 to VelvetRevolver (not 'cos it's one of my fave bands)
What he said was true. Need to be discreet. I remember one of my pals, called LogicDroid (you there bro?
)here on SOFT, saying that it's not cool to advertise about pre-installed software on Macs. That post is still stuck in my head. He said something about 'people are watching'. As is with this case, I'm pretty positive that someone is watching.
What he said was true. Need to be discreet. I remember one of my pals, called LogicDroid (you there bro?
)here on SOFT, saying that it's not cool to advertise about pre-installed software on Macs. That post is still stuck in my head. He said something about 'people are watching'. As is with this case, I'm pretty positive that someone is watching.
theliverevolution
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Dude, the TS is trying to warn OTHER USERS OF THIS FORUM. How does pressing your marvellous triangular 'report' button help other users who might have happened to see his post and decide to save his contact details to follow up with a purchase, BEFORE James can ban him?
And if such a situation ever happened to you, you would be the one bitching to your friends about how some bugger scammed you while you never saw it coming,
To tim098:
Like, DOOD. Have you noticed that there are OTHER threads warning of this guy's actions? We don't need another thread to say we're out to find him. We need a little bit of discreetness.
I do hope that when you're in NS, you go to the police force. Then you'll realise how difficult it is.
For example:
You are tasked to clamp down on a particular person who sells contraband cigarettes. You don't know how he looks like, only he goes by the name of "Dong".
Obviously, you won't go around shouting to everyone "EH CAN THE REAL DONG PLEASE STAND UP?! I'M A MAHDA AND I'VE COME TO ARREST YOU FOR SELLING FAKE CIGGIES!!"
Obviously, your suspect would run away like crazy.
I nearly got involved in searching for Mas Selamat when he escaped. My seniors in my NS unit would tell me the amount of work, energy and effort in trying to hunt him down. And, the key to catching him was by catching him by SURPRISE.
Not by letting him know that we're out to find him by shouting:
"OH MR SELAMAT! SURRENDER NOW IF YOU WANT TO LIIIIVVVEEEEE~!"
I'm not blaming the TS, since he has good intentions. We (or at least I) don't blame him
But before he made this thread, there were at least 3 or 4 threads before this one. I don't blame the TS because I see he's fairly new. But you, on the other hand, have been hear for some time. Surely you would have noticed these threads.
Also, Velvetrevolver and I have already mentioned that previous threads were created to warn people of this fellow. Yes, I agree that we may not have said it explicitly, but Velvet had said:
Note:
Velvet used the word "THE" in front of "Scammer", not "A"
This implies that this scammer has been around for some time, and is quite infamous.
Need I say anymore about a previous thread?
Also, Velvet also kindly gave us a link regarding the previous thread.
tim098:
Cheers!
P.S +1 to Velvet. I would like to give you more, but I only give once in dunno how many days. Haha. I owe you a few
zephyr_f
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bro,it's on the top right hand corner of every post,called the report post.
it looks like this
velvetrevolver
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guys, thanks for reinforcing my views. i'm not that good with words and explained it as best as i could. but i'm glad you guys understood what i was trying to say.
Sylash, Mockingbird - thanks guys
Theliverevolution - no worries bout the points man, haha.
Tim098 - i sure hope you realise that what i am doing is in the best interests of everyone. while i may accept the fact that you might have some issues against me, may i request of you not to do it here. if you wanna know me better, you can always PM me. no obligations man.
Sylash, Mockingbird - thanks guys
Theliverevolution - no worries bout the points man, haha.
Tim098 - i sure hope you realise that what i am doing is in the best interests of everyone. while i may accept the fact that you might have some issues against me, may i request of you not to do it here. if you wanna know me better, you can always PM me. no obligations man.
